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heart cakes
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posted February 11, 2008 08:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay so this doesn't seem so good. i only found a couple definitions in google land though. but i'm wondering if anyone has good experiences with or despite this.

the guy i have this with, well, i think we like eachother and have for about a year and a half, but it seems like it might be this aspect that has prevented anything from happening since we both seem shy and like we can't quite get it to that place somehow. i am a giant fan of optimism though and would like to think that saturn could bring steadiness and longevity to venus.. so i'm hoping there is someone who can tell me this is possible or they've heard of such a thing. or do you think we'll just always be awkward?

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Lara
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posted February 11, 2008 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Heartcakes,

Hope you and your little one are well

Here are a couple of things l found!

Composite Venus Conjunct Saturn:

At best, the two of you will take your relationship with each other seriously, and are willing to work on the problems you have. A strong sense of responsibility, even obligation, toward one another permeates your bond. However, you are apt to feel that all you do is work on the relationship, that it is beset with difficulties, disappointments, and a sense of heaviness, and that there is meager reward for all of the effort required. There will be very little easy pleasure and lighthearted sweetness. Your affections turn cool, even cold, toward one another when you let the burdens you share become the sole focus of your togetherness. It is rather easy for distance and separateness to grow between the two of you.

On the other hand, you may want very much to be close but circumstances or fate prevent this from occurring. In either case, frustrated love feelings and inhibitions about giving and receiving wholeheartedly are bound to be a major challenge with the two of you. A feeling of restriction and containment, and emotional congestion makes it difficult for either of you to be truly joyful together. However, if you are not seeking bliss, and a more subdued, committed bond is what you want, this may be a good choice.


Venus Conjunct Saturn

Venus conjunct Saturn in the composite chart can present problems for a relationship.

Saturn represses the warm and self-expressive nature of Venus and can make a relationship very cold. Even if there are strong feelings between you, the expression of those feelings is somehow always subordinated to more practical considerations.

This aspect particularly can prevent a sexual relationship from ever being consummated, not for lack of feeling, but because of the considerations just mentioned.

This aspect can have another, quite different effect. Your affection may be expressed, and a sexual relationship may be consummated, but in a very cool and restrained manner. Nevertheless, the feeling is genuine, and Saturn's slowing effect may make the relationship steady and enduring.

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posted February 11, 2008 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had saturn/venus conjunct in 4th house with my ex husband and OMG was it hell on earth.

Would have been easier to be married to the devil! :O

What house is yours in?

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heart cakes
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posted February 11, 2008 10:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey lara.. thanks! we're great.. how are you and yours?

thanks for the cut and pastes.. i didn't see that second one when i looked. it seems like it offers some pretty nice potential. i did find this one though:


Venus Conjunct Saturn:

You may have difficulties expressing your love for each other and may veer to minimal displays. However you both value the longevity of the relationship and so will be able to weather hard times together. Sometimes this aspect will feel like a strong love attraction initially that draws you together and it is later that you may notice that you feel shy or inhibited about being demonstrative once the relationship is established. You both value a conservative expression of love and money.


how was your relationship hellish? did it make it difficult to express affection and emotion? do you think it was this aspect, or others? natally we have venus (his) sextile my saturn, exact, so i hope that would help things along somewhat. and also my venus on his moon, so i think that could help with the affection thing. but man we are pretty awkward or something when it comes to getting anything started.. that is, if he does have feeelings for me which i think he does. but i'm not sure.

i'm not sure what house it's in cuz we don't know his birthtime. but there's a good chance it's in the 6th.

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heart cakes
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posted February 13, 2008 11:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you guys think the description of venus-saturn in synastry that liz greene gives in her saturn book could work for this aspect, loosely, with the who's who being interchangeable, kinda thing?

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praecipua
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posted February 14, 2008 04:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i hope i got it right, composite venus conjunct composite saturn from planets in composite by Robert Hand:

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venus conjunct saturn in the composite chart present problems for a relationship, particularily a personal one. in professional associations it's not so difficult.

Saturn represents the principle of reality, at least as most people see it. as a planetary power it represses the warm and self-expressive nature of venus and can make a relationship very cold. Even if there are strong feelings between you, the expression of those feelings is somehow always subordinated to more practical considerations. one of you may feel that despite your affection for one another, this is not the right time or the right place for your being together. perhaps it would fool up a personal relationship that one of you has with someone else. this aspect particularily can prevent a sexual relationship from from ever being consummated, not for lack of feeling, but because of the considerations just mentioned.

this aspect can have another, quite different effect. your affection may be expressed, and a sexual relationship may be consummated, but in a very cool and restrained manner. there's little of the spontaneity and flamboyance that is supposed to characterize a love affair. nevertheless, the feeling is genuine, and saturn's slowing effect may make the relationship steady and enduring rather than an affair that burns itself out, as some do. it may turn a potential love affair into a platonic relationship. the same cooling and steadying effects will also be seen in friendship.

there is no reason to assume that this aspect will deny a satisfactory relationship, but it will slow it down and keep it cool. the two of you must ultimately decide what you want from this relationship. if you want a cool, steady, and reliable bond, this is it. but if you want an exciting and romantic affair, you won't find it with this aspect.


it doesn't sound that bad to me..."reliable, steady..." and you must have more than just this aspect so you can probably bring the fun differently...

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heart cakes
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posted February 17, 2008 06:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you praecipua! somehow i missed this..

yeah, it really doesn't sound bad to me either. it feels like time-release-love or something, you know? we do have some other nice stuff that would warm (and heat!) things up, such as my venus on his moon.. and we have sun trine sun, etc, so we have a sort of friendshippy vibe too.. it's not cold between us, it just seems we're both really super shy around one another, since the attraction seemed to spark up out of nowhere! but i do like what this article suggests and see no problem with it, really.. although, i haven't really experienced it so i can't know forsure.

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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted February 18, 2008 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your, not refering to Mr Gemini again!!!.

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heart cakes
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posted February 18, 2008 04:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am!

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posted February 18, 2008 08:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would not spend much time looking at composite charts unless they contained themes already seen in synastry. Also, the midpoint composite - the standard astro.com report is just about useless. Its reliability is zero. The davison is more accurate but still nowhere near as relevant as the synastry.

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posted January 09, 2016 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunshine0705     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All my longest relationships (2 years+) had Venus conjunct Saturn in the composite chart. None of them was easy but we loved each other deeply.

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Randall
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posted February 09, 2016 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sunshine0705:
All my longest relationships (2 years+) had Venus conjunct Saturn in the composite chart. None of them was easy but we loved each other deeply.

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