posted February 19, 2008 07:26 PM            

For instance, if you express viewpoints,beliefs,and feelings about something.

You include things that you might feel is good information,insights about certain things.

Then somebody gives you a hard time because they don't agree with you, then they accuse you of proselytizing.

Do you think that can be so annoying.

It's like a person can't really express themselves without giving them a hard time because they say things that they don't agree with.

How can people express their different and even controversial opinions,beliefs,and viewpoints so that others don't think that they are proselytizing?

I think that can be a problem with Astrologers because there is so much diversity in Astrology. If a person expresses an alternative way of doing Astrology,they

on the other hand,the person that accuses of proselytizing says that he/she believes in diversity and the freedom to do Astrology his/her own way. It seems that diversity of opinions,viewpoints,and beliefs can be a different story.

Sometimes, I feel that it's just best to agree to disagree. Instead of trying to get into debate.

posted February 19, 2008 08:13 PM            

proselytize \PROS-uh-luh-tyz\, intransitive verb:
1. To induce someone to convert to one's religious faith.
2. To induce someone to join one's institution, cause, or political party.

my 2 cents

posted February 19, 2008 08:22 PM            

I see this playing proselytizing card go on a lot with people on internet.

I remember back in 1999. I was at a Unitarian Universalist site,and I said that I was into Astrology. Then there was a skeptic person who was saying that astrology is not valid and brought up the constellations stuff. Then I came back in defense of Astrology,and I got accused of proselytizing.

I have dealt with condescending,patronizing skeptics of Astrology who even called me retard and said that Astrology was food for the credulous. They thought I was pushing my beliefs on them. These were people who believed in magick which is something I don't really believe in. I didn't say that it was B.S. like they Astrology was.

posted February 19, 2008 08:42 PM            

And since it is a belief system others can ridicule those who find it has merit. Just like religion.

Those that are derisive usually know very little about the subject they choose to belittle. I do not mind it, ...just have a hard time with unenlightened types that have to grind they're shoes on differing beliefs...any belief.

q=I find that tolerance of diversity is the biggest problem in our planet.

posted February 19, 2008 08:44 PM            

That comes with they're job description....doesn't it

posted February 20, 2008 01:37 AM            

like many anti-homosexual marriage believers believe that homosexual marriage activists are trying to push their way of life on them. they could accuse them of being proselytizers As a person who believes in full homosexual rights, I don't agree.

many Southern slaveowners believed that Northern abolutionists were trying to push their way of life on them. they probably accused them of being proselytizers. Of course,as a person with black ancestry, I believe that slavery was wrong and that that the Northern abolutionists were right. Of course,many white racists like Klu Klux Klan,Nazis,and Stormfront types believe that the Northern abolutionists were wrong and the white slaveowners were right.

I am sure in the days of MLK, segregationists, Jim Crow law believers believed that civil rights activists was trying to push their beliefs and saw them as proseltytizing....especially formidable civil rights leader,Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

of course, as a person born to a white woman and black man and is in interracial relationship with a white woman, I don't believe in segregation

many people believe that there is psychiatric abuse among neurodivergents .....many are against psychiatric drugs for ADHDers and autistics. But neurodivergents who are neurodiversity advocates believe that it's wrong and that ADHD and autism aren't disorders but a different way of being. As a neurodivergent who has been misdiagnosed and misunderstood,I believe in the neurodiversity movement too. I try to refrain from thinking that it's the right way. However.....there are many who think that psychiatric medicating neurodivergents and seeing them as disordered is wrong and that the neurodiversity movement is right. There are many others who think that psychiatric medication neurodivergents and seeing them as disordered is right and that the neurodiversity is meaningless.

posted February 20, 2008 04:33 AM            

The waters are also muddied by the presence of people who don't have the best of social graces. Being anonymous allows them to cause trouble they wouldn't otherwise be able to get away with on a daily basis. So they have lots of fun making mischief. It stirs the pot which already includes people getting upset over misunderstandings, and others working off some of the frustrations of their daily lives.

In can be frustrating trying to discuss serious issues. I try and qualify things so I don't say anything inflammatory, but then I wonder, at what point does toning down your comments mean you aren't saying anything at all? In daily life I would be more inclined to speak my mind, it is easier to judge when it is going to be useful and not upset everyone.