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Topic: What aspects would indicate mistrust/dislike between people?
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Mariangela unregistered
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posted February 20, 2008 02:32 PM
I'm curious. :/Any thoughts? I'm not trying to be a pot-stirrer. I'm just interested in seeing how certain aspects may manifest as hostility between people. On the other side of that, would there be aspects to soften the volatility? I've heard Moon conjunct Venus, but I could be mistaken. IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 20, 2008 02:53 PM
Great question, if a tad reminiscent of Hunk of Spunk.In the name of astro-research I dug out my aunt's date of birth and got the noon time positions. I have an approximate time of birth for my mother off an older sister. There were several of them, but just these two could never get along. They would deny it, but I get it in the ear of both of them so I know the truth! Hilariously, I have found out that she has the Moon in Aries, like my mother, and probably close in degree. Sounds about right, I often feel like the adult stepping in to break it up between two squabbling kids. Both of them get emotional and do the "what about my feelings" and "I'm really hurt" act, and start crying in the middle of sentences. If I get time I'll try and dig up some charts of someone famous who couldn't abide each other. IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 20, 2008 03:00 PM
No love lost between this pair: http://astropost.blogspot.com/2007/11/heather-mills-stella-mccartney.html Saturday, November 17, 2007 HEATHER MILLS - STELLA MCCARTNEY Heather Mills says Stella McCartney, daughter of Paul, is not generous. That MIGHT be possible, with a Moon in Cancer . Stella on the other hand reports that she never even liked Heather Mills. That is also possible. The Mercury of Stella is opposing the Mars of Heather, a sort of a garanty for discussions. And the Uranus of Heather is conjunct the Pluto of Stella: this can be very tense! Watch the drawing with the positions on the day of birth of Stella, with those of Heather wrapped around the circle. More about the divorce of Paul and Heather, click on the link. Heather Mills: 12th January 1968 in Aldershot. Stella McCartney: born September 13, 1971. IP: Logged |
augentier unregistered
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posted February 20, 2008 04:38 PM
When people's personal planets square my Mercury, I want to strangle them and leave them for dead.------------------ Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon Mercury:: Sagittarius Venus::Scorpio Mars::Pisces IP: Logged |
PaidVacation unregistered
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posted February 20, 2008 05:18 PM
Me and a friend from college. Really, he was just part of my group of friends, not really a close friend to me. I've always felt uncomfortable around him, and there's this unconquerable feeling of frustration in the air whenever we hang out. The aspects I suspect are behind this: Sun square Sun My Uranus square his Sun/Moon/Mercury (me and everyone in our generation, too!) My Saturn square his Venus My Moon square his Mars My Mars square his Jupiter My Sun conjunct his Uranus isn't something I think I'd mind on its own, but with these other aspects I suspect it only makes things worse. Yet for some reason, he's always had a crush on me (and he told me so about a year and a half ago). I guess that's the his Venus trine my Mars and his Moon/Mercury trine my Venus at work. Guh. IP: Logged |
wild sheep unregistered
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posted February 20, 2008 05:53 PM
I often see Moon opposition Mars in the charts of people who flat-out can't get along.IP: Logged |
HunkOfRope unregistered
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posted February 20, 2008 08:49 PM
Saturn square ascendant.
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Glaucus Moderator Posts: 5228 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 20, 2008 08:55 PM
I don't trust my mother because she physically,verbally abused me.Her Pluto squares my Venus. IP: Logged |
HunkOfRope unregistered
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posted February 20, 2008 08:55 PM
I can definitely see that one.IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 21, 2008 05:49 AM
Fascinating thread, it would be interesting to get some more replies. I wish I had the chart for my ex-boss. I felt ill sitting in the same room as her, but as soon as she left, I was fine. Getting close to people whose Mars Squares my Moon/Pluto Conjunction has ended badly more than once, it did seem to over rule all the trines and anything else going on. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted February 21, 2008 07:12 AM
Augentier, you said:"When people's personal planets square my Mercury, I want to strangle them and leave them for dead" I totally agree. My ex's mars and descendant was on mine arrrrgggghhhh IP: Logged |
Hermes28 unregistered
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posted February 21, 2008 07:15 AM
Hard aspects to my moon in Sagittarius. Moon in Gemini I absolutely do not trust.My Supervisor's aspects to my chart. This guy really gets under my skin. Saturn conjunct Sun Sun Square Venus & Mars Mars Square Venus Mars Square Moon...this once really gets me. IP: Logged |
writesomething unregistered
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posted February 21, 2008 07:19 AM
Sun conj Saturn..I have this with someone, and hes saturn..he doesnt seem to trust me...We also have moon opposite pluto, and venus trine pluto.IP: Logged |
Leonine Ox unregistered
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posted February 21, 2008 01:24 PM
I can understand Augentier's feelings. My mother's Mars squares my Mercury but also trines my Venus. Though I find her annoying, I've still been her caregiver for years. She's provided a good life for me, perhaps as suggested by her Jupiter conjunct my Sun.Leonine Ox IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 250 From: The Strand Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 21, 2008 03:24 PM
Anything that bothers my mars (squ, opp generally from sun, saturn or mars). I have it in Gemini and pretty much most Sag can bother it and the occasional Vir, never pisces though. But the worst was this opposing sag whose saturn also squ my mars (t-squ with my mars). I wanted to crack this person's head open but it always felt like me punching a piece of paper; she just always restricted me. Another person had their mars squ mine and I could just feel that I wasn't getting along with this person, I didn't appreciate the imposition of their will/opinions on me. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 21, 2008 05:26 PM
hmm, well... different strokes and all thatsince all of our charts are so different and unique what would irritate one won't necessarily irritate another (since they may already be working with that aspect in their natal) having said that, Mars and Saturn (in general) they are so out of sync that the conjunction can cause instant dislike. and yes, yes, yes this can be modified. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 435 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2008 12:12 PM
There is potential dislike and mistrust with anybody whose Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto, Neptune and Uranus makes a stressful aspect (square or opposition) to a personal planet of yours, and vice versa. Of all these aspects, the Jupiter aspect is the mildest one. I am watchful of people that have Saturn and Pluto squaring or opposing my planets or even conjunct my planets, because it tends to give them power over me. IP: Logged |
scorpiofrancesca unregistered
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posted February 22, 2008 01:44 PM
I have heard that anyone's sun that falls into your 12th house may arouse some distrust..IP: Logged |
augentier unregistered
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posted February 22, 2008 01:49 PM
scorpiofrancesca - that's interesting, because my 12th house cusp is Libra and i find it difficult to trust and befriend Libra suns.------------------ Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon Mercury:: Sagittarius Venus::Scorpio Mars::Pisces IP: Logged |
starrym unregistered
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posted February 24, 2008 07:45 AM
I dont trust a guy whos Venus and Mars square my Asc and Mars... his Merc opposes my SunIP: Logged |
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 188 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 24, 2008 12:43 PM
Good topic...I know this one guy who is a friend of my friends, and try as hard as I might, I just can't seem to get along with him. I think the big thing between us is the fact that my Mercury is in Virgo opposing his retrograde Mercury in Pisces within one degree. We have HUGE communication issues. I'm to the point and plain spoken. He is very vague, nebulous, and uses a lot of inside jokes when he talks. But that's not the exact problem. The problem is that when I ask him to clarify or explain a statement he has just made (because I absolutely don't understand what he's talking about) he becomes very stubborn (Taurus moon) and absolutely refuses to make any effort to explain, which causes me to hound him even more (Aries moon). Then he acts like he's the victim (Pisces sun) when all I wanted was a clarified statement (Virgo sun). What would have been a 10 second clarification turns into a 10 minute fight. I think he thinks I'm making fun of him or deliberately making an effort to not understand him, which is not true at all. The other big problem between us is, ironically, something that shouldn't be a problem at all. His Aries Venus conjuncts my Aries Moon to the degree. He digs Aries girls- girls who fight and have some fire to them. For awhile he dug me too... So, for awhile he was deliberately inciting me in argument, but he never seemed to realize when he'd go too far and actually legitimately anger me. I have Mars in Leo and a lot of fire, but I don't like being mad at whoever I'm hanging out with. So when he'd do that I'd finally get mad enough that I'd say things just to upset his Piscean sensibilities so he'd leave me alone. As a result, we now "get along" for the benefit of our mutual friends, but ultimately we almost always end up fighting and making digs at each other. He's one of the few people who I find myself at an impasse with. ------------------ Virgo Sun/Aries Moon/Scorpio Rising IP: Logged |