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Mariangela
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posted February 20, 2008 02:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious. :/

Any thoughts?

I'm not trying to be a pot-stirrer. I'm just interested in seeing how certain aspects may manifest as hostility between people. On the other side of that, would there be aspects to soften the volatility? I've heard Moon conjunct Venus, but I could be mistaken.

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blue moon
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posted February 20, 2008 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great question, if a tad reminiscent of Hunk of Spunk.

In the name of astro-research I dug out my aunt's date of birth and got the noon time positions. I have an approximate time of birth for my mother off an older sister. There were several of them, but just these two could never get along. They would deny it, but I get it in the ear of both of them so I know the truth!

Hilariously, I have found out that she has the Moon in Aries, like my mother, and probably close in degree.

Sounds about right, I often feel like the adult stepping in to break it up between two squabbling kids. Both of them get emotional and do the "what about my feelings" and "I'm really hurt" act, and start crying in the middle of sentences.

If I get time I'll try and dig up some charts of someone famous who couldn't abide each other.

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posted February 20, 2008 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

No love lost between this pair:
http://astropost.blogspot.com/2007/11/heather-mills-stella-mccartney.html

Saturday, November 17, 2007
HEATHER MILLS - STELLA MCCARTNEY

Heather Mills says Stella McCartney, daughter of Paul, is not generous. That MIGHT be possible, with a Moon in Cancer . Stella on the other hand reports that she never even liked Heather Mills. That is also possible. The Mercury of Stella is opposing the Mars of Heather, a sort of a garanty for discussions. And the Uranus of Heather is conjunct the Pluto of Stella: this can be very tense! Watch the drawing with the positions on the day of birth of Stella, with those of Heather wrapped around the circle.

More about the divorce of Paul and Heather, click on the link.

Heather Mills: 12th January 1968 in Aldershot.
Stella McCartney: born September 13, 1971.

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augentier
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posted February 20, 2008 04:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When people's personal planets square my Mercury, I want to strangle them and leave them for dead.

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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PaidVacation
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posted February 20, 2008 05:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and a friend from college. Really, he was just part of my group of friends, not really a close friend to me. I've always felt uncomfortable around him, and there's this unconquerable feeling of frustration in the air whenever we hang out.

The aspects I suspect are behind this:
Sun square Sun
My Uranus square his Sun/Moon/Mercury (me and everyone in our generation, too!)
My Saturn square his Venus
My Moon square his Mars
My Mars square his Jupiter

My Sun conjunct his Uranus isn't something I think I'd mind on its own, but with these other aspects I suspect it only makes things worse.

Yet for some reason, he's always had a crush on me (and he told me so about a year and a half ago). I guess that's the his Venus trine my Mars and his Moon/Mercury trine my Venus at work. Guh.

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posted February 20, 2008 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I often see Moon opposition Mars in the charts of people who flat-out can't get along.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 20, 2008 08:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn square ascendant.

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posted February 20, 2008 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I don't trust my mother because she physically,verbally abused me.

Her Pluto squares my Venus.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 20, 2008 08:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can definitely see that one.

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posted February 21, 2008 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating thread, it would be interesting to get some more replies.

I wish I had the chart for my ex-boss. I felt ill sitting in the same room as her, but as soon as she left, I was fine.

Getting close to people whose Mars Squares my Moon/Pluto Conjunction has ended badly more than once, it did seem to over rule all the trines and anything else going on.

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Lara
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posted February 21, 2008 07:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Augentier, you said:

"When people's personal planets square my Mercury, I want to strangle them and leave them for dead"

I totally agree. My ex's mars and descendant was on mine
arrrrgggghhhh

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Hermes28
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posted February 21, 2008 07:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hard aspects to my moon in Sagittarius. Moon in Gemini I absolutely do not trust.

My Supervisor's aspects to my chart. This guy really gets under my skin.

Saturn conjunct Sun
Sun Square Venus & Mars
Mars Square Venus
Mars Square Moon...this once really gets me.

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writesomething
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posted February 21, 2008 07:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conj Saturn..I have this with someone, and hes saturn..he doesnt seem to trust me...We also have moon opposite pluto, and venus trine pluto.

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posted February 21, 2008 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can understand Augentier's feelings. My mother's Mars squares my Mercury but also trines my Venus. Though I find her annoying, I've still been her caregiver for years. She's provided a good life for me, perhaps as suggested by her Jupiter conjunct my Sun.

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posted February 21, 2008 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything that bothers my mars (squ, opp generally from sun, saturn or mars). I have it in Gemini and pretty much most Sag can bother it and the occasional Vir, never pisces though. But the worst was this opposing sag whose saturn also squ my mars (t-squ with my mars). I wanted to crack this person's head open but it always felt like me punching a piece of paper; she just always restricted me. Another person had their mars squ mine and I could just feel that I wasn't getting along with this person, I didn't appreciate the imposition of their will/opinions on me.

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lalalinda
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posted February 21, 2008 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm, well... different strokes and all that

since all of our charts are so different and unique what would irritate one won't necessarily irritate another
(since they may already be working with that aspect in their natal)

having said that,
Mars and Saturn (in general)
they are so out of sync that the conjunction can cause instant dislike.

and yes, yes, yes this can be modified.

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posted February 22, 2008 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is potential dislike and mistrust with anybody whose Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto, Neptune and Uranus makes a stressful aspect (square or opposition) to a personal planet of yours, and vice versa.

Of all these aspects, the Jupiter aspect is the mildest one. I am watchful of people that have Saturn and Pluto squaring or opposing my planets or even conjunct my planets, because it tends to give them power over me.

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted February 22, 2008 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard that anyone's sun that falls into your 12th house may arouse some distrust..

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augentier
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posted February 22, 2008 01:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scorpiofrancesca - that's interesting, because my 12th house cusp is Libra and i find it difficult to trust and befriend Libra suns.

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Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
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posted February 24, 2008 07:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont trust a guy whos Venus and Mars square my Asc and Mars... his Merc opposes my Sun

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posted February 24, 2008 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good topic...

I know this one guy who is a friend of my friends, and try as hard as I might, I just can't seem to get along with him.

I think the big thing between us is the fact that my Mercury is in Virgo opposing his retrograde Mercury in Pisces within one degree. We have HUGE communication issues. I'm to the point and plain spoken. He is very vague, nebulous, and uses a lot of inside jokes when he talks. But that's not the exact problem. The problem is that when I ask him to clarify or explain a statement he has just made (because I absolutely don't understand what he's talking about) he becomes very stubborn (Taurus moon) and absolutely refuses to make any effort to explain, which causes me to hound him even more (Aries moon). Then he acts like he's the victim (Pisces sun) when all I wanted was a clarified statement (Virgo sun). What would have been a 10 second clarification turns into a 10 minute fight. I think he thinks I'm making fun of him or deliberately making an effort to not understand him, which is not true at all.

The other big problem between us is, ironically, something that shouldn't be a problem at all. His Aries Venus conjuncts my Aries Moon to the degree. He digs Aries girls- girls who fight and have some fire to them. For awhile he dug me too... So, for awhile he was deliberately inciting me in argument, but he never seemed to realize when he'd go too far and actually legitimately anger me. I have Mars in Leo and a lot of fire, but I don't like being mad at whoever I'm hanging out with. So when he'd do that I'd finally get mad enough that I'd say things just to upset his Piscean sensibilities so he'd leave me alone.

As a result, we now "get along" for the benefit of our mutual friends, but ultimately we almost always end up fighting and making digs at each other. He's one of the few people who I find myself at an impasse with.

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