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Motorgirl
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posted February 23, 2008 04:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um... Is it me or does the google description for Pluto transiting the 12th seem a little far fetched?

Pluto through the 12th house- This transit can either be for better or worse. At worst, powerful and deadly enemies can enter into one's life, long term incarceration and imprisonment, diseases that are long lasting and/or permanent, isolation. The person, at this time, may have an intense desire to be alone, or this can be forced upon one, through circumstances. There can be restriction and confinement, mentally or physically.

In sublimating this energy, meditation, metaphysical pursuits, psychic empowerment exercises and other forms of occult study application should be consistently worked on. This is a good time to develop intuitive powers and psychic energy.

Secrets at this time are of unusual importance. One may be involved in research, or some kind of secret activities.


Anyone here gone through Pluto transiting their 12th and come out alive?

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jane
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posted February 23, 2008 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it natally and I'm alive so far. Tired at the moment, but alive.

Some people on this board have written about this transit. I remember them mentioning that they felt better after Pluto moved into the first. I feel fine, but I wonder if I'd feel better with a first house Pluto.

I can say that I've always been a bit obsessed with inner power. I often see people letting their lives be shaped by others, by their childhood, by something else other than thm. And I wonder why they don't see that they're the ultimate authority for who they are, that they have the final say. I really believe that people are more powerful than many of them realize they are. So when I look at my chart, I think of Pluto in the 12th as being where I get this from. My obsession with our own "hidden" power.

So maybe Pluto transiting the 12th could bring events where a person cannot control the external world, but only how she reacts to it, and through those experiences she realizes how much power she has in her reaction?

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starrym
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posted February 23, 2008 01:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well if you got that from elsa then here is what she said afterwards

"Oh for Godsakes! 1 in 12 people have Pluto transiting their 12th house. Do you see 1/12 of the people around you locked in jail with the key thrown away, body parts rotting off as people plot against them? ::shakes head::

I am going to make a point of writing about this transit so when people search they can pull up some sanity, you think? We can start today.

If you have had Pluto transit your 12th house and did not become riddled with leprosy and go crazy in quarantine, please let us know.
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Motorgirl
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posted February 23, 2008 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ha ha! No I didn't get it from her, but I probably got it from the same source that she found it. Funny though...She requested others who've gone through the transit get back to her so that she chould write an alternative interp online... And I don't see the alternative. Maybe no one got back to her because they are all locked up in prison after all. ha ha.

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heart cakes
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posted February 23, 2008 04:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my pluto through the 12th experience was pretty darn intense. and i DID want to be alone through much of it. and it did get easier after pluto entered my 1st.

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posted February 23, 2008 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another nPluto in XII here (**waves at jane**) – and I never got leprosy, or was imprisoned or quarantined, and I survived to adulthood!!
We live in a dimension of polarities – without dark there cannot be light.
Pluto transiting a house is like a backdrop to everything else that’s going on in your life. Until it aspects a planet, especially a personal planet, there is no need to fear. When it does hit a personal planet, THEN freak out!!
Pluto can bring to life things that you would rather have kept unconscious. If you do not voluntarily go to the Dark and do your spiritual/emotional/mental/physical-housekeeping, and explorations, and reconciliations, the Dark will come to you.
Pluto transits aren’t “bad,” or “negative.” The reason it has such a reputation is that Pluto can rip your life apart but only to make it BETTER than it was.
I finally got out the other side of 2 years of tPluto square nMoon. What an emotional challenge!!

Here's a couple threads you might like reading, Motorgirl:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008524.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011863.html

From Bob Marks: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/transitspluto18.1.htm

Pluto packs a punch. When it hits you, you know it. Whatever it contacts in your horoscope gets “transformed”. Pluto is death and rebirth, decay and regeneration. It is very difficult to hold on to something that Pluto is trying to take. Sometimes it is just better to let go. Pluto also rules obsession. An almost insane desire to possess a thing, or a person. The negative side of this planet is more likely to come out during the stressful aspects. The smooth aspects (trine and sextile) can strengthen whatever they touch.

Pluto is the slowest moving planet in the solar system, so its transits to the planets in your birth chart can take about two years or more to pass completely. It can take over 12 years, however, to transit through each of the houses of your horoscope. Pluto’s effect, as always, is to clean things out. Yes, things get reborn wherever Pluto goes, but they have to decay and die first. See which house in your horoscope that Pluto is transiting through to find out which area of your life needs attention. This is important because the processes of Pluto are usually hidden at first. It works something like a volcano with pressure building up for years until it explodes. One the negative side, Pluto rules the “underworld” and illegal activities. Beware of temptation to go this route when Pluto hits.

Pluto Transits Through Your Twelfth House: This is the house of “self-undoing”, the dustbin of the horoscope where we throw things that we don’t want to deal with. Pluto loves to go through dustbins and dumpsters. During this transit, old psychological problems, that you thought you had dealt with years earlier, come up again and demand to be heard. Don’t panic. Just face them (easier said than done, but you have to do it). This is also the house of hidden enemies. No, you are not standing there minding your own business and these nasty people come at you. Check your own behavior to make sure that you are not doing something to irritate them and set them off.

From: http://www.cafeastrology.com/plutotransits.html

Pluto takes approximately 248 years to come full circle. This slow-moving planet's transits are long-lasting, and each transit takes its time to unfold. As Pluto transits a point in our chart, retrogrades back over it, and then hits it again in direct motion, it imparts its own special wisdom upon the point in question—the areas of lives and parts of our psyches ruled by that point.

How Pluto affects our lives depends very much on whether we resist its influences or we try to work with the planet of rebirth and destiny.

Whatever part of our lives and of our psyches that Pluto touches, especially by hard transit, is an area that Pluto compels us to explore more deeply. Superficiality is not acceptable for Pluto. Pluto transits insist that we get in touch with our core purpose and our deep sense of power. New levels of intimacy, not only with others but also with ourselves, are discovered and uncovered.

Transiting Pluto brings intensity and focus to our lives. Pluto breaks through illusions, in search of the utter truth. These are not Saturn truths, when we see things for what they are in a mundane or material sense. Pluto probes much deeper, shining light on our darkness. Transiting Pluto offers us the chance to evolve and to rebirth. Pluto acts to strip away what is unnecessary or superficial in our lives. Pluto wants deep experience, of the transformational kind. Things that are not working for us, whether they are thought processes or lifestyles, undergo a transformation. Pluto transits bring about rebirths of sorts in the areas of life affected. Pluto transits are about letting go of things that are holding us back from deep and meaningful experience.

Fear—sometimes intense fear—can reveal itself at the beginning of a challenging Pluto transit. We confront our "dark" side—those parts of us that are raw, primal, and instinctive. Resisting this process can cause us to externalize or project these parts of ourselves. If we do this, Pluto's energy has to go somewhere, so we end up meeting Pluto in our lives in the guise of events and people. If we are attracting jealous, manipulative, and controlling people or situations, we can ask ourselves why this is happening. Is there something in ourselves that is provoking this kind of behavior or circumstance?

Although transiting Pluto is often associated with such things as separation and deaths, it is important to note that Pluto's action is to revolutionize parts of ourselves, and events that take place at this time can just as easily be new relationships, births, and new beginnings in general. For example, a woman who had decided she would never marry and have children developed a relationship under a heavy Pluto transit that changed her conviction completely. By transit's end, she recognized that her conviction to not "settle down" was actually based on her own fear that she would never find a deep and meaningful relationship.

Possible influences and experiences with transiting Pluto:
· Emotionally and sexually rewarding relationships, intimacy.
· Psychological healing.
· Relationship problems, separation, manipulative behavior, jealousy and possessiveness.
· Resistance to change and holding onto negative attachments.
· Self-destructive behavior, obsessions.
· Looking for truth and meaning.
· Beginning new, intense relationships.
· Psychological insight, intolerance for superficiality.
· Soul-to-soul connections with partners.
· Fateful encounters, timely new relationships and/or separations.
· Discovering one's power.
· Unloading burdens and obligations.
· Increased focus, strength, and commitment.
· Death and rebirth cycles.
· Complex involvements.
· Coming face to face with our deepest fears, and overcoming them.
· A new interest in psychology and parapsychology.

There’s a whole Tribe forum dedicated to exploring 12th house issues: http://12th.tribe.net/

Happy Trails!!
~ Zala

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Azalaksh
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posted February 23, 2008 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Motor ~

Here are some books you should definitely check out whilst PLuto is meandering thru your 12th:

"The Outer Planets and Their Cycles: The Astrology of the Collective"

"Alive and Well With Pluto: Transits of Power and Renewal"

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heart cakes
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posted February 23, 2008 09:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also jeff green's pluto book (well he has two but i've only read the first).

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