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bluegreyeyes
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posted February 28, 2008 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just curious...what type of placements would make someone interested in dark/taboo stuff? I'm not a morbid person or anything, I'm you're typical upbeat 25 year old girl... but
I tend to get weird fascinations with typically "dark" topics...

For example:

I'm absolutely mesmerized by suicide, 2 of my immediate family members (didn't know them) both committed suicide in Ireland...and I've always read about Virginia Wolfe b/c we have the same bday...I just find it really interesting. I've read some pretty morbid "suicide boards" and watched a lot of documentaries on suicide, and a lot of books about it...(I'm not suicidal or anything).

And then, I get hooked on other topics about death/dying... I always find those stories about mountain climbers extremely fascinating. I'll follow the story for weeks. I read Into Thin Air, and all the controversy about it.. I saw the movies/documentaries...

And then I'll hear about something, like Bud Dwyer, and have to read about it.

Then I'm also drawn to stuff like astrology (which isn't dark but some people think it is), or poltergeist... when I was younger (really little) I was obsessed with checking out books about ghosts from our library...and I loved the Amityville Horror story (I lived on LI)... and haunted places...

Even the "causes" I've been involved in (I'm an aqua!) were sorta morbid: Students Against Drunk Driving, AIDS Peer Educators, Rape Counselor, Animal Abuse, etc.


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amowls
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posted February 28, 2008 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is your Pluto in Scorpio? Mine is and they say that my generation is obsessed with sex & death.

Anyway, I would look at your 8th house.

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AcousticGod
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posted February 28, 2008 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, 8th house and Scorpio.

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posted February 28, 2008 01:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe lots of Scorp influence or emphasized 8th or 12th houses. Venus indicates some of our interests, and I think Venus in Scorpio loves dark subjects.

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posted February 28, 2008 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun/Pluto aspects, Mercury/Pluto aspects, and I agree: eighth house placings.
Pluto likes it.

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posted February 28, 2008 02:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Ascendant, Moon and Jupiter in Scorpio; Sun, Venus and Saturn conjunct Pluto; and north node in the 8th house.

I Love watching horror films. I've built up quite a collection of controversial horror films over the years, but I especially enjoy the Hammer horror films.

I love reading horror literature, especially when it gets dark. Dante’s The Divine Comedy still retains its power to shock.

Serial killers and why they committed their heinous crimes fascinate me.

I love delving into the supernatural and the occult. Reading autobiographies of Aleister Crowley is always amusing. It’s hard to believe that he was a Libra!

Astronomy and our place in the universe both intrigue and terrify me; death and conspiracy theories, too.

And I love the artwork of Austin Osman Spare, William Blake and Gustave Dore.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 28, 2008 02:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A&E is the best.
City Confidential, American Justice, Cold Case Files
I'd pass up dinner for that.
My father thinks I'm strange, and my sister says I'll turn into a murderer, but it's only fascination. Why watch other things when that's the best material?

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posted February 28, 2008 03:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh-oh… my type of thread!

I´m very much into “dark” stuff… I love horror movies and been dabbling in all sorts of “dark” subjects – it´s like I´m drawn to it. Mars and Neptune in the Scorpio 8th house and Mercury in 12th house Aquarius - I definitely think it´s those placements that strengthens these interests with me.

I used to read a lot about serial killers and watch any documentury about them, It wasn´t the way they killed that intrigued me, but more how their minds work… the passing over the limit thing…

I read anything about the occult etc. and learning the Tarot and Runes – fascinating! And I love everything I´ve read by Anne Rice (she´s writing in a typical Scorpio-8th- house way!)

I don´t have a death wish (I love life!), but I´ve always been facinated by death and what comes after. Death doesn´t scare me – although I´m a bit worried about how I will die… there is a curiosity about what comes after. A morbid fascination one might say.

In spite of it all – I don´t feel like a “dark” person (no depressive tendencies or other negative psychological patterns) and I don´t think it shows on the outside what I´m in to … although I guess I´m considered a bit different amongst my friends …he, he, he…

However, I think it´s the people who hides their morbid facination who you should be afraid of… not us openly morbid nut cases - we are warmhearted people with just a strange facination for the taboo subjects :-).

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posted February 28, 2008 03:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm interested in ALL of those. Astrology can be considered dark because not many know about it. I do have a strange fascination with death/suicide, esp. mysteries involving death. The only show I watch is Law & Order SVU even though the shows are fictional. It's fun.
My mom attempted suicide when I was 11 but strangely, I was never creeped out about the incident. Sure I was afraid she might die in that moment but looking back, it doesn't seem "foreign" or tabbo-ish if you know what I mean.
The 12th house would be another indication of devling into "dark/hidden" subjects.

I wouldn't rule out Aquarius either, a sign known to rebel from tradition, etc.

Moon in Scorpio/Asc. in Cancer, Pluto in Scorpio, 12th house stellium

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mrsxdwinchester
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posted February 28, 2008 06:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Astrology but my main interests would be anything Parapsychological. Some areas interest me more than others but I tend to acquire various bits of information about anything I can.

Moon and Saturn in Aquarius, Mercury and Jupiter are in the 12th house and Pluto is in Scorpio

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posted February 28, 2008 06:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. Sounds abit like a morbid fascination with death.

Depends what you mean by "dark subjects" ?

Horror films. Check

No one yet has mentioned DOOM metal.lol. Thats is pretty dark

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libraschoice7
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posted February 29, 2008 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this topic...people have always thought I was strange cause of my unusual interests and likes with the paranormal and the occult. Needless to say I was a pretty weird kid growing up...very shy, I would read books about ghosts and vampires. Even hanging out at the near by cemetery at times. My love for horror movies continued on into adulthood(I lost count of how my times I watched Psycho)...even have the Alfred Hitchcock 'Funeral March' as my ring tone for my phone lol! The only placements I have that would point to that would be my Jupiter conjunct Moon in 12th house...

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posted February 29, 2008 12:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't make me explain why, but , I lean towards tight contacts between Saturn and Chiron in the natal chart.

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posted February 29, 2008 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I absolutely love City Confidential, Law and Order: SVU and any story involving a bizarre death. I whole heartedly believe killing is wrong and I would never actually harm someone else, but I can't help but be fascinated by dark subjects. I've always wondered how people could commit such atrocious acts and what their childhoods were like.

Maybe Pluto in Scorpio aspecting almost all of my personal planets has something to do with my interest.

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Belage
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posted February 29, 2008 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planets like Pluto, Neptune, moon, mercury and venus in 8th and 12th houses.

Also if someone has pluto conjunct venus or moon or mercury, that's also a possibility.

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Marina
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posted February 29, 2008 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love all of that dark stuff

With me it must be because of
Moon in the 8th house
IC in Scorpio
maybe also Jupiter in the 12th house?

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posted February 29, 2008 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for librarising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love subjects involving horror, death, torture, the occult, et al.
My fascination started when about 5 and saw the "Pet Sematary" at a drive-in. I didn't have many rules on what I could and couldn't watch as a child so I was watching the Psycho movies, Nightmare of Elm, and et al; besides my mother knew I like horror and gruesome movies. By 6 I had a crush on Freddy Krueger and this lasted until I was 11. I was him for Halloween, when I was 9. Around 10, I was also starting to read Anne Rice books and Bram Stoker's Dracula. As a child, instead of hoping to become a princess or for a fairy to take me away to some kingdom, I hoped a vampire would capture me.
Now I have a collection of awful B-movies full of blood, murder and rape, a wide book collection on death, astrology, witchcraft, rogues and true crimes, a tarot deck that loves me and crystals galore. I have, also, always been fascinated by crime which could be explained by my criminal father and my Scorpio mother who is also fascinated by crime. I love the documentaries hbo has on autopsies and occasional interviews with murders. Now my fascination as developed into future career in being a social worker in corrections or rehabilitation setting.

Neptune and Pluto in my chart: Pluto in Scorpio in the first house, my Scorpio(not libra) rising, Neptune oppose Venus and Mercury, Pluto Trine Venus, Mercury trine Venus, Mars square Pluto (in one book this indicates a violent death)


--- I remember reading in a book that Neptune and Pluto were in sextile around the time I was born which would also make this aspect in the charts of my peers… I wonder if this as something to do with the commonality in interests.

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bluegreyeyes
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posted March 03, 2008 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I just looked at my chart and I realize I have Scorpio in the 8th House...

And I have Venus (Aqua) in the 12th...

It's pretty eery.

And yes, I love Law & Order: SVU, and anything along those lines... Forensic Files... Criminal Intent...

Ah nice to know I'm not the only one out there fascinated by this sort of stuff, I'm probably the least "dark" person, but I've always been attracted to weird subjects, a little off the beaten track.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Ive noticed is that Gemini Moon signs, and Pisces Moon signs, are like that, especially when coupled with a Fire Sun, like Sag, Aries not as much Leo. or when Coupled with a Pisces sun or Scorpio sun, not as much Cancer.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya I would def. agree with Neptune also, Pluto first and foremost, and a near second would have to go to placements of Neptune

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posted March 03, 2008 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too am fascinated with such topics, Im in my last year of law school and going into Criminal Prosecution, I currently work for a homicide/rape unit and absolutely love it. It is the first job I can say that i truely enjoy. My boyfriend is a Dr. someting about men in medicine intrigues me. Especially surgeons, although he is a radiologist. Some of my aspects are:

Moon in Pisces, Sun in Sag, 2d House Pisces, 9th in Scorpio, 10th House in Scorpio, 11th in Pisces

Pluto in Scorpio, Saturn in Scorpio,
Sextile Neptune-Pluto, Sextile Moon Midheaven, Midheaven is in Scorpio, Trine Moon Pluto, Sextile Moon-Pluto, Conjunct Mercury-Neptune,1st House- Moon,

Any thoughts as to a pre-disposition in my line of work?

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posted March 04, 2008 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found an interesting link on planets and their role in death(I found it suitable for this thread)...http://www.findyourfate.com/


DEATH AND PLANETS

Planets can play a part in death and dying. All of them do. You cannot look at just one planet, one aspect or one configuration--it is the culmination of all of them that must be looked at in totality. And even then, if the person decides to utilize this death energy on another plane of expression, they'll keep on living and breathing and being around for some time to come!!

Saturn

Saturn is often seen as Father Time--when your time's up--you're going. Father Time is here for all of us. We are all going to die some day. However, we move through many "mini-deaths" throughout our lives on the spiritual, emotional and mental level, too. And Time does erode our body so that when we're in our sixties, our body does not function as a twenty-year old's will, too. Its your choice on how you handle Saturn's energy.A Saturn death is a lingering death. It doesn't happen quickly; it happens over time. Sometimes, a long, suffering time. Saturn is one of the planet's of longevity in one's life, also. The good side of Saturn, so to speak. A conjunction, sextile or trine between this planet and your Sun can give you a long, long life, although the whole chart must be taken into consideration for this.

Uranus

Uranus is implicated in surgery and accidents. Usually accidents of a "weird" or unusual nature--such as sky diving, bungee jumping, while you're skiing you run into and hit a tree and kill yourself--or some other loopy, dumb kind of thing that no one would ever think could happen and create an accident. Uranus also rules airplanes and flight.It also rules over lightning and electricity--so many people get a jolt--either by a cord, by a lightning bolt or zapped through some strange, odd way. Surgery is co-ruled with Uranus along with Mars. With Uranus, you can have a "weird" car accident, or unexpected surgery .A Uranus death is always sudden. There is no lingering on with this planet.

Neptune

Drug over doses, recreation drug death, death by flesh eating bacteria, by a nasty virus, or by prescription or over-the-counter drugs fall under Neptune's massive coverage. Drowning accidents figure prominently here, as well. Water related deaths or near deaths always find Neptune and Admetos active at the time. Of course, there is death by drowning of having too much fluid in your lungs; drowning by suffocation. Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, such as asthma, bronchitis, pneumonia and emphysema are Neptune's rulership as well. Anything having to do with water inside or outside the body is Neptune's base of operation. It could be a flood that kills someone. Or a flood of liquid, such as blood in the pericardial sac that surrounds the heart and stops the heart from beating. Deaths or near deaths that have Neptune prominently figured will always have a cloak of mystery about them, too. In some cases, no one will ever really know how it happened or what the person died of or from what. People with an active Neptune at the time of their death will usually die in their sleep. Or, they will die of suffocation. A nice trine from one's Sun to Neptune means a quiet, gentle passing in one's sleep.

Pluto

Transformation is asked for by this planet. Pluto deaths are usually pretty final and not always pretty. They usually involve massive trauma to the body, or there's little left to identify or its hard to identify.Deaths with Pluto can be violent; and a good example of this is the heart attack, where it comes out of nowhere, hits with the velocity of a Mac truck, is massive and nothing can be done to save the person, no matter what. The heart can literally, explode. Or, a aorta can 'blow' and the person bleeds to death in three to five minutes. Or a massive stroke or hemorrhage will finish them off quickly. There's something to be said for a 'swift' death and Pluto helps make that possible.A good sign of longevity is a conjunction, sextile or trine between one's Pluto and Sun; although the whole chart must be taken into consideration for this.

Mars

Mars acts as a "trigger" for death or a near-death experience. It also rules knives, guns and fires. You will see an active Mars in a lot of violent shootings. Mars is about a violent death of some sort -through some kind of sport-related accident or a car accident. Mars rules mechanical things and machinery and often, people slice off a finger, get their arm ripped off in a combine, or are decapitated or lose a leg in an accident. Mars is one of the co-rulers of surgery, so any accident involving Mars can mean minor or major surgery, too. Since Mars rules anger, temper and the male harmone testosterone, these additions can make or break if there will be an accident or death--or not. Deaths are usually violent and sudden and the person may die instantly (as in a bullet to the head) or linger on for a couple of days, and maybe a week--but no more than that. A Mars death is clean and swift.

Hades

This is one of the Uranian planets and is considered the planet of disintegration.Hades will turn those festering mass of bad feelings and experiences into a disease--a chronic one--to get your attention so that you will handle matters in a more straight-forward fashion. And if you don't, you will die of a chronic disease, instead. The flip side of Hades is therapy and shamanic healing or ceremonial healing of some sort from antiquity--which can help save your life and get you back on track with yourself. A Hades death is slow, arduous, a cell at a time and can take a decade or more to slowly erode and dissolve the walls/cells/bones of our body until there's very little left. AIDS is a good example of a Hades disease.

Admetos

This is another Uranian planet. For those who love to suppress/repress their hard feelings, their hard knocks in life, their bitterness, their bad luck, their trauma, , is doing an Admetos response. Admetos has an affinity for the Moon and is often seen as the other symbol for the mother. It is also about our subconscious. In its most lurid form, the monsters and the Shadow within ourselves is mirrored by this planet.Very often, with a strong Admetos natally in one's chart, this can mean that a "photograph" of a trauma occurred very early in life--especially in utero--while being carried by Mom--and it stains the person's entire life-force.This planet rules strangulation of the person. The person suffocates in some way. It could be due to an overdose of prescription, over-the-counter or other drugs, inhaling poisonous gas of some kind ,being poisoned by drinking water , or inhaling poisonous air that accumulates and you get sick and die from it.Admetos is about the hidden, poisonous things in our everyday environment that can potentially kill us. Admetos means death by slow, gradual onset and poisoning. An Admetos death can take years, if not a decade. And the person suffers enormously over time, if the source of the poisoning to them is not identified. A person slowly being poisoned by arsenic being put in their food daily, is a good example of this--a lot of liver pain, a lot of suffering, but its slow and unmerciful.

North and South Nodes

The Moon's Nodes are intimately concerned with the forging of connections and the dissolving of connections. These connections are with other people, places, associations, groups, your company/corporation and possibly, the country you live in.We are constantly cutting ties and making new ones. The North Node is about creating new ties. That can be seen as dying and going to a more ethereal place of existence.

The South Node is about creating old connections with old, familiar places, people or things.They will be active in a marriage, in a divorce, in a birth, in a death, in the creation of a company, or the dissolvement of a corporation or country.

Chiron

Chiron is the gatekeeper. He is often active when a person takes on a disease in order to move and learn deeper, more enriching enlightenment about one's self or others. Around age 50, many people will take on a disease. This is not to say they are bad people.There are hidden blessings in disease and I've seen Chiron act like a 'fast track' to spiritual evolution for a person when this happens.A Chiron death can be quick and merciful or drag on forever; and much depends upon aspect to it from other planets.

Venus

When someone is in the process of dying, Venus or Jupiter would be always around. They are both "guardian angels" of a type; although Jupiter's other side can be heavily involved in a death. Venus promises no suffering, or a very short period of suffering. There is grace with this planet when it comes to dying. It says that the dying will be "easy" or painless or less of something other than it could have been. Venus is sometimes seen in deaths where the person dies in their sleep. Venus around is good because the person sees his journey into death as something beautiful, creative and an opening, not an ending or a closing or a loss.

Jupiter

upiter is involved in aggressive cancers where there is cellular regeneration at optimum, and tumors are present, or an aggressive lymphoma. Ailments involving the liver can also come from this planet, as well. Tumors are Jupiter's "thing." It is also, by co-rulership of the liver, tied into the lymphatic system as well which is why, in many forms of cancer and dying of cancer, the Jupiter is active by transit or progression. On the other hand, Jupiter is also the "guardian angel" provided it is in good, soft aspect at the time. If it is, it means a gentle, non-struggling death. Transit is easy and comes all at once, although the person may linger for days, weeks, or even months. With a good Jupiter aspect around at the time, the person does not suffer as much. They will also have a wonderful, optimistic, open attitude about their passing into the next world.

Poseidon

This Uranian planet is very often involved in a death aspect.Having Poseidon around when you die, is the perfect close to one door and the opening of another.Poseidon was the God of the Ocean. Consider it a higher spiritual octave of Neptune.People who have Poseidon active at the time they die have seen their personal Truth. By dying, they receive illumination during the death transit. Poseidon can be seen active in slow, gradual deaths. And it is only when the end has finally come, that this planet makes its final station, that the person gets some kind of incredible, soul breakthrough.

Sun

Sun can be intimately tied into our death time.The two big "triggers" in progressed charts is your Mars and Sun. Many times, in many deaths, the Sun is not prominent. With the Sun involved, it usually means the person has truly fulfilled all there soul desires this time around and it is a natural time to move on.A Sun death can be slow or quick. Usually, there is some beautiful gift of awareness, a deeper soul connection made with the self before passing--a gift is given because these people have earned such grace by working hard, being responsible and shouldering the loads they came in to carry and learn from or give back to humanity in the balance of their unique karma.
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Mars in Cancer
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posted March 04, 2008 10:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont know if Scorpio is really enough to do it - I have my Sun and Merc in the 8th and Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorp and Im not attracted to morbid subjects or horrid stories - surprising for Merc in 8th?

i dont know, but i think Air signs give a sense of detachment from the subject and i can't seem to get detached from the morbidness of creepy things.

my good friend with Moon in Gemini loves digging in about weird horrible diseases and human deformities- she can look at it and be completely detached. so i guess- where is your moon?

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The first thing that comes to mind is "Scorpio rising." I have that Ascendant and no matter how much light I bring into my life, there's still that morbid fascination with the underworldly. I also have Pluto in H12, which is probably related.

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posted March 05, 2008 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
speaking of mars related incidents..

it does also rule injuries or death in sports.. in my natal i have both mars square saturn and uranus.. the only injuries I really suffer are sports related. (jinx knock on wood) Saturn ruling bone structure. I broke a bone in my hand after punching a padded wall at a bad day of basketball practice. I have also sprained both ankles playing basketball (Uranus rules tendons and ligaments) among other incidents just showing how mars squares to both of thos planets manifest in my life.

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