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posted March 05, 2008 01:11 AM            

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What are the indicators of charm or charisma in a chart?

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posted March 05, 2008 01:15 AM              

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Charm can mean so many things for different people but I'm guessing you are referring to personal appeal?

The ascendant in harmonious aspect to the planets.... esp the Sun....

Venus conj. ASC
Venus and Mars in harmony
Venus and Pluto, I think?? (not sure)

I have noticed that people with Venusian planets in their top five planets (the personal ones) are very easygoing. Like Libra or Taurus Moons for example. That's just speculation though and actual examples of friends of mine.

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posted March 05, 2008 01:18 AM              

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Charisma to me usually means that underlying attraction based on some sort of sex appeal. So I would look for PLuto in hard aspect because those are easier to pick up on. People with these ooze it; it's very in your face. Might rub some the wrong way.

However I do know a few people with soft Pluto aspects to the personal planets that have sex appeal. These people have the ability to switch it on and off.

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posted March 05, 2008 01:26 AM            

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Moon Libra

Moon Trine Venus

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posted March 05, 2008 02:11 PM              

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Venus conjunct ASC

*charms your pants right off*

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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posted March 05, 2008 02:42 PM            

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there could be numerous indicators for it

Even Noel Tyl believes that Mars-Neptune aspect can be an indicator

Magi Astrologers believe that Chiron has to do with Charisma

Jonathan Dunn believes that the Chiron's fellow centaur,Chariklo has to do with Charisma

Pluto's fellow kuiper belt objects could have something to do with charisma

also shyness can also restrict one's use of charisma.

so many views

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posted March 05, 2008 03:04 PM            

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Venus conjunct Neptune in Sag in the 7th

...maybe with Gemini rising

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posted March 05, 2008 03:24 PM              

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hmmm

well people tell me i'm very charismatic - as for aspects, if it helps, l have:

Sun/mercury in Taurus
venus semi sextile mars
venus quincunx pluto
venus trine asc
mars opposite neptune
venus in 8th house/scorpio
pluto in 1st

not sure if that helps!

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posted March 05, 2008 06:26 PM            

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My brother has Venus CNJ Asc. He can do charm. It got him out of trouble more than once as a kid. Good sense of humour, good looks. Hot tempered though, and very cyncial.

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posted March 06, 2008 07:47 AM            

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Oh, I'd say Libra Moon, Venus conjunct ASC in Cancer and a Gem Sun

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