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Kal_El
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posted March 06, 2008 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kal_El     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what signs or aspects most effect your appearance? The ascendant and moon(?). Are there any other ones? Which parts of the body? The face mostly? Like the eyes for the moon sign? Just curious. Because when i read about it, i get different answers in different books.
Or is this just too broad a question?

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Astra
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posted March 06, 2008 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the ascendant represents how other people see you, so any planet aspecting the ascendant will affect your appearance. For example, Jupiter aspecting the ascendant usually adds height while Saturn can make someone shorter. Also, planets in the first house also seem to affect appearance. Jupiter in the first house would give you the traits of Sagittarius, but could also make it easy for you to put on weight. Moon in the first house may cause others to mistake you for a Cancer. Pluto would give you intense eyes.

I suppose your Mars sign could also play an indirect role. For example, Mars in Aries would give you a lot of energy and may give you a love of sports, which would keep you in good shape, whereas Mars in Cancer may make you less physically active. Of course, any planets aspecting Mars can modify these qualities.

I've heard Saturn rules bone structure. Saturn in Libra, for example, can give beautiful bone structure

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posted March 07, 2008 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is something that I too am interested.

You should consult websites such as:
* librarising.com
* astrofaces.com

See if you can make any correlations.

My opinion is that the basic appearance determinant is the sun sign and aspects to the sun. If the sun is badly afflicted, then maybe the ascendant will carry more of the weight.

However, the following should have an impact on how someone should look (according to me):

* Sun and its aspects - also look at which decanate the sun will fall in.
* Ascendant and its aspects - also look at which decanate the asc will fall in. The ascendant will provide the perception others have of you and may affect your facial expression.
* Look to the chart ruler as well, as it deposits the ascendant.
* Look to see what is in first house.
* Look to venus and aspects.

For example:
* Me - aqu sun (aqu decanate) with opp saturn and squ uranus - I have a highly angular face and typically Aqu. Sleepy, long eyes are dead giveaway for Aqu as well (see Paris Hilton).
* Aries ac - gives me a very confident mein with a very direct and apparently scary look in my eye, have dark hair and eyes but my hair has a definite reddish tinge. Big pores, acne. Of "athletic build"
* Pluto opp asc - darker appearance, hairier than normal; jupiter conj asc - taller than the average girl; "athletic" build, people tell me I have a nice smile despite having a small mouth (partly due to jup's influence partly due to leo decanate asc); nep conj asc - dreamy eyes.
* Not sure what impact chiron in 1st has on me.
* Mars (chart ruler) in gem/3rd - have scars on my hands/arms.
* Venus unaspected in sag - probably same effect as jup conj asc.


Libra rising are typically the best looking and tend to have great hair. Many of them seem to be blonde. Likewise, Sag rising are also attractive as well as Aqu rising (more of a plainer attractive face). Aries rising tend to have a very daring look about them. Virgo Rising are photogenic and have sparkly eyes but aren't necessarily as youthful as Gem rising.

Planets in first house:
Sun - probably a more regal look and strong personality. Maybe leo traits such as hair like a lion's mane
Moon - round face, pale
Venus - beautiful, oval face shape maybe something like good hair
Mercury - longer head, youthful looking
Mars - more masculine face maybe a heavy jaw and muscular, maybe might add some height
Jupiter - athletic build or weighty maybe again a longer face than normal. Tall
Saturn - darker and more structured facial features and body features
Uranus - angular and often piercing eyes - think Kurt Cobain
Neptune - dreamy and maybe greeny-blue eyes, maybe a bit bloated
Pluto - darker and maybe smaller, possibly hairy.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, anyone

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LeoCat
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posted March 08, 2008 12:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus & Pluto in my first house. I'm virgo asc but I'm anything but photogenic which has always been a great source of anxiety for me. I'm angular as the uranus would suggest although I'm not dark and hairy on the pluto side. I'm a girl so this is a good thing. My chart ruler falls in Leo, I don't believe I look very leonine, although I do have fabulous hair.

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Kal_El
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posted March 08, 2008 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kal_El     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Virgo ascendant too. And I am anything but photogenic.

PS
how does a Virgo ascendant effect appearance?

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ChameleonRising
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posted March 08, 2008 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChameleonRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got Taurus at 29* ASC, and I'm confused if I'm either a Gem or Taurus, because my ASC also conjuncts my sun at Gem 5*.

I exhibit more of a Gemini personality but Taurean in appearance and my 2nd House is in Gemini.

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posted March 08, 2008 01:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kal El,

I think virgos are supposed to be lean and thin, which I am. Are you?

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Sarai
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posted March 08, 2008 02:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone has moments when they're photogenic and unphotogenic. I know skinny skinny models who have days when they look like hell.

I have Gemini rising and I have actually noticed that most women with Gem rising have large breasts. I "blossomed" fairly late in high school though. I have two other female cousins in my family with Gemini rising and they're also both large-chested. I also noticed that Lindsay Lohan (who looks slightly like one of my cousins) could be a Gemini rising.

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posted March 08, 2008 03:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes l agree that virgo = lean and skinny. I have leo rising (hair) but its 29' degree so all my 1st house is virgo and l have a model figure. Plus my sun conjuncts mercury, so double whammy.

Pluto in 1st gives me huge, intense eyes. Uranus in 1st (also my dsc ruler gives me a slightly wild look and angular.
Jupiter n 12th stops me gaining weight l guess! My SO has jupiter in 12th too and we never put on weight. Venus/Moon/Saturn in aries - not sure what that means!

It's funny cos l used to be so natural and typical taurean (my sun) and now l paint my nails, dye my hair, wear make up etc so l guess i'm becoming more of a Leo

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Kal_El
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posted March 08, 2008 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kal_El     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
question... again. how do you find the chart ruler? (please forgive my ignorance)

Astra,
Edit: I will look into the aspects of my ascendant. I hadn't thought of that. Thank you.

LeoCat,
Yeah, I am thin and kinda lean. A little more one the scrawny side

23,
Thank you for the sites. I am browsing them at the moment....

Eyes is what i was most curious about. People have told me different things about my eyes. One person told me they looked green, another black, another chocolaty brown, and yet another said dark blue. I was wondering if any of the aspects would indicate that. My eyes are dark brown. so it is a little confusing.

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amowls
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posted March 08, 2008 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarai: I am also Gemini rising (Aquarius decan, Aries dwad) but I have small to medium sized breasts (as compared to my body and it fluctuates depending on my eating habits).

I do, however, look young for my age and am slender and short. The descriptions for Gemini Rising also mention "birdlike legs" but I don't know what that means. In any case, I have really nice legs (well proportioned and muscular).

For the most part I feel like the physical descriptions of rising signs are bogus because they don't take into account different races and ethnicities. I'm half asian/half white and most of those descriptions unfairly assumes that the reader is fully white.

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Kal_El
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posted March 08, 2008 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kal_El     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
amowls: i agree with you there. I am almost full blooded Native American, so i think they are bogus too...

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Sarai
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posted March 08, 2008 08:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
amowls/Kal-El:

Yeah, I agree. I'm half-Iranian, half-French so I don't identify with the physical descriptions.

The weird thing in my family is that my mother and sister both are small B cups but I somehow ended up with C/D cups. I'm actually considering getting a reduction because I'm very active and they get in the way. Also, I'm about 5'4 so on my frame they can make me look top-heavy if I wear certain clothes. And I don't appreciate getting leered at all the time.

My cousins have the same problem but I don't think they'll actually get surgery for it. I only wonder because large breasts don't really run in the family.

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LeoCat
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posted March 08, 2008 09:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarai, consider yourself to have just gotten lucky!

Oh and I beg to differ, I know a gal with gemini rising and she was born with virtually no boobs.

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Sarai
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posted March 08, 2008 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeoCat,

Oh I *used* to think myself lucky but not anymore. I want out and I want smaller!!! I think I'd be okay with them if my frame were better suited but they stand out a bit too much for me.

I've already had a few consultations for the reduction. Just waiting for the right time because I need to take a little time off.

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LeoCat
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posted March 08, 2008 11:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not a very minor procedure, but one that many women have been happy with. Good luck to you, I'm sure you're beautiful now and you'll feel sooooo much more beautiful after.

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Sarai
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posted March 08, 2008 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeoCat:

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted March 09, 2008 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kal el.


Your chart ruler like me. is Mercury. the chart ruler is the planet that rules the sign of the ascendant in your and mines case. Virgo. although Im a skeptic when it comes to saying that both virgo and gemini are ruled by mercury. and when they talk of having a new ruler for Virgo in a few years it has to make you wonder well then apparently virgo is being misrepresented right now and certain interpretations are wrong.. I dont think everything will change just when someone declares a different ruler for virgo. it doesnt work like that. but aspects to your chart ruler could also give insight on your appearence and your self-being.. if your a skeptic then look at chiron instead of mercury. Chiron is being considered the possible actual ruler of Virgo.


Any Planet that recieves alot of aspects in the chart could be a possible indicator of appearence.. so much energy coming from one sign or planet.

Ive also considered planets in the fourth house as a possible place that could effect appearence.. planets in the fourth are so ingrained into the depths of our personality they could manifest in our every day demeanor and they are also likely to make a trine or square to the ascendant.

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posted March 09, 2008 03:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh? They're changing the ruler of Virgo? I'm a virgo ascendant. This gives me a whole new perspective on life. I have to go study it.

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Sarai
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posted March 09, 2008 08:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SS: Can you elaborate on that 4th house and how planets in it can affect appearance?

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Kal_El
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posted March 09, 2008 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kal_El     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hm. interesting Seeing Stars. I will look into. If you could elaborate on the 4th house and appearance it would be helpful. Thanks.
Sarai:
As far as the boobs thing goes. Most of the women in my family have large breasts. I think its weird that I didn't end up with bigger ones. But I am happy i didn't, cause i feel mine get in the way too.

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posted March 09, 2008 09:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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triplecancer
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posted March 14, 2008 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been told that cancer ascendant would give a roundish look. I don't resemble cancer traits at all and I think it's because I have mercury conjunct ascendant. I have a normal height but have always, I mean always been thin and seem like my body is long, and also have a long face. I also have jupiter in the first house but never had tendencies to put on weight.
Could the planet conjunct ascendant affect appearance that much?

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Glaucus
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posted March 14, 2008 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

no offense, but I feel that those descriptions were made for Caucasian people

I am of Black,English,German,French,Italian,Puerto Rican,Native American,and Jewish ancestry.

I just don't think that I could relate to that astrology appearance stuff that

I just think that I look like a mix of Black and Portuguese(with the Arab ancestry showing) with some Native American.

I have Virgo Ascendant with Pluto in Libra in 1st house
Jupiter is square my Ascendant
my 1st house ruler Mercury is in Scorpio conjunct/parallel Venus as well as contrparallel Saturn and parallel Neptune

I am 5'11 with broad shoulders for my height, frizzy curly black hair, brown eyes,and light brown/dark tan skin which can go to a medium brown if exposed to a lot of Sun. I have somewhat almond shaped brown eyes with long curly eyelashes. I have thick eyebrows which I feel that I have inherited from my 3/4 Portuguese,1/4 Puerto Rican maternal grandfather. I have short upper body and long legs like my father who was black Creole. I have high cheek bones which my mom tells me is from the Native American ancestry from my paternal grandmother.

I have people who think that I am Puerto Rican or some other Hispanic. Some even think that I am Pacific Islander. Some even think that I am an Arab...especially with a beard.

I look younger than my age..especially with no facial hair. People in my mom's family don't wrinkle much as they age,and that's because of the Portuguese ancestry.

There is a femininity that people tend to see in me too...especially when I wore my hair longer and was clean shaven. I have a voice to match. It got me mistaken for being gay.
Neptune is planet of being hard to pin down too....so Neptune parallel my 1st house ruler Mercury makes sense in that regard.
Chiron is parallel my Ascendant, but I don't know what would mean. I also have Eris quincunx the Ascendant too,and I definitely don't know what that means either.


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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted March 15, 2008 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol..

Glaucus I dont care what you say. you look like a Virgo AC for sure. I can see it in all the male virgo ACs I have seen on pictures of Lindaland which only include you me and satvic. and your young look can be attributed to the fact that when Mutable is on the angles then the natives do tend to look younger. perhaps I go look at your picture and point out the virgo.

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