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alvarella777
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posted March 14, 2008 12:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I am not a CHIRON-expert, rather a CHIRON-beginner.

This will be a long post - I’ll divide this post in 2 parts – 1st: a general part , 2nd: contains personal experience . So you can decide which part you might want to add something too. ;-)


FIRST PART – general questions:

Please, you CHIRON-experts out there … can you help me understand?

CHIRON is currently on its way through AQUARIUS, right? And it seems to be a loooong transit. It entered Aqua in late Feb 2005 – and will not leave it until Feb 2001 – which is six years altogether. Please tell me: Is that “normal”, such a long CHIRON-transit-phase?

I also noticed that Chiron is going retrograde several times during this period – what naturally prolongs its stay in AQUA. And it seems to go retro in “six-degree-phases”!

What do I mean by that? During its forward-/backward-motion CHIRON comes to a standstill several times – at certain points where it seems to “change direction” – and these “turning points” always happen on points in Aqua, that are exactly six degrees apart from each other. (This is probably due to ecliptic reasons …? What do the experts say?)

For instance:

FIRST RETRO-PHASE of CHIRON in AQUA:
CHIRON entered Aqua on the 22nd of Feb. 2005– stationed at 3 deg in early May 2005 - went retrograde and back into CAPRICORN for a while/ finally re-entered Aqua again – and crossed the 3rd deg. once more (around the 20th of Jan. 2006)

SECOND RETRO-PHASE
Next time CHIRON seemingly “stopped” its forward-motion and moved backward again was when it reached the 9th deg. of Aqua (around the 18th May 2006) .

THIRD RETRO-PHASE
Next “turning point” was at the 15th deg . of Aqua. (around 18th May 2007).

FOURTH RETRO-PHASE
Next retro-phase will be at 21st deg of Aqua (will happen around 27th of May this year) …
… and so on and
… and so forth.

Is that common with Chiron? Such a regular/orderly pattern or retrogrades??? In six-pack-steps???


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SECOND PART – personal anecdotes:

What fascinates me: Exactly while CHIRON was hanging around these “turning points” (when it “decided” to change direction), I’ve made very specific experiences in my personal/love life. Maybe some others have made comparabale CHIRON-experiences that you want to share with us? So that we all can better understand the effects that CHIRON may have on the daily life’s of earthlings such as we are? ;-)

My personal experience:

1.) During the first RETRO-PHASE I fell miserably in love with a man who was unavailable to me. CHIRON’s turning point in 3 Aqua was in quincunx to my Venus (4 Virgo), in semisextile to my NN (4 Pisces) – and in opposition to my Mercury (4 Leo)


2.) During the SECOND RETRO-PHASE I met my current boyfriend - and the timing couldn’t have been more exact! ;-)

CHIRON went backward from the 9th degree of Aqua – and at the EXACT time when it sat itself in forward-motion again and reached the 5th dg of Aqua (on the 14th Nov. 2006) … I met my current BF for the first time – it was online. And … he has his JUNO on 5th dg Aqua!!!

Again, Chiron then was in close qcx to my Venus (4 dg Virgo), in semi-sxt to my NN (4 dg Pisces) and opp. my Mercury (4 dg Leo).

Apart from that, this second “turning point” of CHIRON – 9 Aqua – is conjunct our combined relationship-chart-SUN (10 deg. Aqua)!!!

3.) Exactly when the THIRD RETRO-PHASE started (around 18th May 2007) my BF and me met in person for the very first time! We met on the 16th of May - and stayed together until the 22nd .

This third “turning point” happened to occur at 15 Aqua – which is conjunct our combined-relationship-chart-VESTA (14 Aqua)– as well as opp. my natal Sun/Venus-MP (14 Leo) and opp. my natal Venus/Mars-MP (16 Leo)

This third backwards-motion lasted until the 22nd Oct 07 - CHIRON then reached the 10th dg of Aqua – again in conjunct to our relationship-SUN. And just one day later, the 23rd of Oct., I flew over to visit him in his country for the first time! When CHIRON was cj our relationship-sun again!!!!

Currently … CHIRON just passed the 15th dg again on the first weekend of Feb. 08. – again a special weekend for us, when we made an important decision.

4.) I am – of course! - awfully curious what will happen at the FOURTH CHIRON-RETRO-PHASE [/b], which will occur in late May around the 21st dg of Aqua ……

This next “turning point” (reached in late May), will be in conjunct our relationship Sun/Moon-MP and cj. our relationship-chart-Venus/Saturn-MP (both at 21 Aqua). It will also be opp. my BF’s natal Mercury (21 Leo) - and opp. my natal Sun/MC-MP (21 Leo as well).

P.S.: In our COMPOSITE-Chart there's CHIRON at 0 deg ARIES - trine Vesta, trine MC.

In our DAVISON-relationship-chart ("combined") we have CHIRON in 26 Pisces, sextile MC, sextile AC, trine Neptune, opp. Uranus. (This combined CHIRON-position is opp. my BF's natal Venus in 27 Virgo)


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starrym
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posted March 14, 2008 01:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im not really sure what it means in context of your relationship, but i had Chiron square Venus and Moon last year and it hurt a lot... i avoided anything romantic during that time, but i felt Chrion's wounds unearthing in my internally. it really was a hard time and i would def. feel Chiron's impact is very strong.

i personally feel like Chiron is the ruler of Virgo and can relate to its moods and actions through transits and in my chart pretty potently (Virgo sun here).

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Lana29865
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posted March 14, 2008 01:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
starrym, I share your view that Chiron is the ruler of Virgo. I'm also a Virgo Sun, with Chiron in Pisces in the 8th.

Lana

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alvarella777
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posted March 15, 2008 12:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey STARRYM, I am sorry about the (Chiron?-)hurt you have suffered from. Hm.

I know an Aqua-woman who is just now experiencing a CHIRON opp. her ASCENDANT-transit ... and she seems to be severly suffering from a recently ended love affair. It is not only "heartache", obviously. It seems as if she is wounded in her whole self-image currently...

Hm. I had CHIRON opp. my SUN a couple of years ago (2004) - it was a tough time, many changes in my private life, living conditions ... but that phase helped me to look after (and work for) my real inner needs. I sort of "freed" myself, despite of being a bit anxious to do so. (I felt very alone at that time.)

A few years before (2001) I had CHIRON square my natal PLUTO - again a very (!) intense time with many tears and doubts. This time my professional life was affected (my Pluto is in 10th, cj MC) - again a lot of changes, a real struggle, feeling "all alone" in the process as well - but I came out extremely (!) succesful and with a whole new professional and self-image afterwards, that is still affecting my life today.

So ... by writing down all this, CHIRON seems to have SATURNIAN qualities as well ... would you agree? Like a parent-figure, looking after you in an uncompromising way ...? mybe not as stern as Saturn, but not less effective ...?

As far as my current love thing and CHIRONs movement through Aquaraius is concerned (as sketched above), I cannot complain though! ;-) Seems to me, that Chiron is working in the background to "fix" that love ... ;-)

Anyway: Hope that you fell better now, Starrym!

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kindjali
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posted March 16, 2008 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody had experience with tr. Chiron conjucting Venus...I having that at 19:26 Aquarius.

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ghanima81
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posted March 16, 2008 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's opposite my moon... I have to let go of past feelings if I'm ever going to be able to move forward. I know that already...

On top of being opposite of my moon, which is obviously in Leo (5th), this transit is opposing my NN and conj. my SN. It's especially affecting me as my Neptune Sextile/Neptune aspects are reinforcing the changes. It will work out for the best, but I have to get through it first.

And boy do I know about the "heartache" that this influence caused this past year. The dealing with self-esteem and self-worth after having it stripped down to dust has been quite a challenge!

Thanks for bringing this up! I think people forget the affects that Chiron can have.

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