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heart cakes
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posted April 05, 2008 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
it's a close conjunction of sun mercury and mars. i can't figure it out no matter how i try to stretch my mind around it. aquarius energy and the 8th house energy just seem too different to me.. any ideas?

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posted April 05, 2008 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
This is my warped attempt. I dunno what I am talking about. For a while now, I think I use my feelings than astrology itself because some things, like this below, are just odd.

Aquarius – Uranus – natural Ruler of the 11th House

8th House – Pluto – natural house of Scorpio

How do these two get along, and what parts of deep space do these Hitch-hikers visit in the Galaxy? What hidden secrets do they unveil, and what unknown frontiers do they discover? It must be exciting and electric for sure. Too much planet hopping could make someone very dizzy, though. Too much of a good thing may leave you without stability. You like this but the jet lag is NOT fun.

And, wait!

What if they get lost, lose the map to their destination, and find themselves in unknown territory? I think they would just make friends and do as the Martians do; go forth, push forward, up, up and away!!

Well, there is a price to pay for these psychedelic, journeys because you can’t stay in one place. You don't want to stay in one place because a party is a party if you leave it while it's jumping, this means you have to keep moving, keep searching, looking for the next thrill.

You have to always leave and arrive, die and get reborn, move from consciousness to sub-consciousness. What a ride! What pain also. it's emotionally draining to always be leaving, to always being a stranger and to always be leaving people behind. It is constant mourning to create a life, friendships and bonds, to have them become obsolete; to arrive with a mission to only realize that the job is done, and that your "business trip" was not as long as you had planned. And now... you must wonder aimlessly between planets before you find another civilization, because there are long periods of solitude between each trip.

The only way to survive is to JUST NOT BE POSSESSIVE. You must love, but not possess.

Fear, but not panic because you have to move on. Grieve but don't get depressed because loss is part of life. Envy but don’t get jealous, because to be jealous is to destroy, and you can not leave destruction wherever you go, can you? Is it not better to leave beauty and guidance instead? Is it not better to empower your environment, even though you can never enjoy the benefits, rather than leaving tears behind you?

These are questions that this native has to periodically ask during stressful transits. This is a highly spiritual person who comes with high burdens. He has intense emotions that are scattered like a dangerous laser beam gone wild. What’s a powerful raw energy going to do so as not to hurt others (and not hurt their selves) with these hot beams flying everywhere?

Focus on the inner self, explore your internal galaxy - not the one up there! Get an outlet for the cup that runneth over with restlessness (ART? SCIENCE? RELIGION, THE MIND? hmmm, now that sounds like your cuppa tea)

Balance, and forgiveness of oneself is necessary because there can be many casualties, including the self, towards their path to mastering the self.

This native can be their own enemy in many ways. This native has to tame the dragon within, or else the fiery breaths of this dragon will implode within, leaving the native hollow... dead! The self-saboteur, the self-arsonist, the self-regenerator, and the self-rehabilitator too... so don't fret.

Because...

Wait... what is that... ??

Within the ashes, something quivers gradually radiating a light which soon becomes unbearable to see with the naked eye. Then, like legend, the native gathers energy from 'God-knows-where'. The vibrations of this energy oscillate to form matter, and, then... yes... HE IS REBORN!! Pluto can not let Uranus die for long.

Pluto wants Aquarius to be disciplined and to let go of that which hurts him, like being erratic and flitting about forgetting to do his Mantras, and at the same time, Pluto does not want to be the party-pooper. But Aquarius is restless. He has to move, he has places to go, people to see and brilliant things to innovate, ok?

So, these two make a deal... Let’s play hard because you can’t keep still, BUT let’s work hard, also. Or else you are going to die again, and get reborn, and you do know how traumatizing labor pains are, so why subject yourself to that again?

So, NO complacency, and NO purposeless use of your powers to astral travel, ok? Zero Tolerance of imbalance.

Always remember that you’re erratic but brilliant. It goes together. Waste that brilliance and your inner light will fade and this native will have to start from ground zero once again... and level one sucks...

That’s the building of more foundations because a broken foundation can not be really fixed.

And well... you can just forget lounging, entertaining, partying, or disappearing for a while because you have to put the walls up first because although a restless soul, you desire a place to go home to...

But, since you trashed the place the last time you had your fun; we have to begin from square one.

So, work hard if you’re going to play hard, so that you’re not so knee deep in dirt that you have to demolish the place – since the cost will be the same as cleaning up the mess!!.

Instead, clean up as you go. Detox before you get sick. Do the right thing when you are not under pressure. Do the right thing now! Or... tone down with the instability. I know Pluto intensifies your fun, but... it comes with a price.

Fin.

That's me and sleep deprivation. This is a load of cr@p. I'll edit it when I am sharper than this. I hope you understand it heart cakes.

Must. Sleep. Now. crosses fingers hoping to fall asleep elready!!!

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seveneieghtorange
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posted April 05, 2008 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seveneieghtorange     Edit/Delete Message
wOW Unmoved....great analogy of aquarius being express in the 8th house....do you write often?

I have jupiter in aquarius in my 8th house....would your analogy apply to me?? No conjunctions to anything, jupiter is my only air sign.

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heart cakes
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posted April 05, 2008 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
UNMOVED!!!!

i just woke up and have not had my coffee yet but HOLY WOW was that ever amazing!!!!! i am in total awe of your writing skills and your depth of understanding! brilliant!!

i will write more once i've woken up and adjusted to life a bit..

hope you slept!

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posted April 05, 2008 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message

seveneieghtorange - I have no idea. lol. but I can look into it.

What I do is that i imagine the 12 signs/houses as 12 people with different personalities, who HAVE to get along no matter how uncomfortable it is whe they meet. And then in my head, I just imagine a warrier spirited person (aries) having to deal with a ever-sobbing person (Cancer)...

heart cakes... c'mon. You know more than I in this area, and... did you see the errors in that post?!? Shameful.

I haven't slept since friday 11am. it's now sunday 2:36am

i'm tired.

speak to you later.

cheerio

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heart cakes
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posted April 06, 2008 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
dearest unmoved..

unfortunately i have saturn inhabiting my 8th house, so my experience of the 8th house is, ahem, rather limited.

the way you describe it, though, gives me TREMENDOUS insight. i don't know the guy extremely well, but our charts are almost identical other than our moons and house positions, and i will say, this does sound like him, and makes sense considering what i know of the 8th house..

i'm going to reread it one more time and then respond to things more specifically. i had several days of crazy sleep deprivation too and just caught up on sleep and then had a bunch of stuff to do today. but in the morning when i'm fresh i will give it a go!

thanks so much. it was an amazing read..!

p.s. PLEASE TELL ME YOU'VE SLEPT!!

okay, see you when i wake up!

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heart cakes
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posted April 06, 2008 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
hey unmoved! sorry for the tardiness of my reply..

i've had a hard time knowing quite how to respond cuz i don't know this guy so well. and because i've not got a lot of heavy duty pluto/8th stuff in my own chart. except now i have pluto transiting conjunct my venus, and my saturn return occurring in my 8th. so i suppose, i am acquainting with this energy whether i like it or not!!

my sun is in this guy's 8th as well and i'm GETTING this vibe off him.. but i think there is a lot of SECRECY to this placement as well.. these inner depths you speak of; these incredibly cathartic journeys. so, he doesn't open up all that much to me. but funnily, i open up to him and he sort of encourages it, i would almost say he might even seem to thrive on it in some ways.. probably, all that depth-seeking likes to have a place to seek, in-depth, and so feels good when people open up to him.

i really really love your interpretation and can't say i disagree on any of it. he's definitely fused his aquarian ideals with the plutonian depth and persistent, meaningfulness. he sort of fuses politics with the occult and has an outlet for it that has an audience; he moves people deeply to help them grow and see. it is quite the fusion of energies, and it's totally amazing to me. he's into all the above; art, science, metaphysics..

i don't know a lot about his personal life or habits, but i think you may be onto it. but i think he has struck a good balance between the party-vibe and the work-ethic.

thank you so much. this interpretation has REALLY put things in perspective. i really appreciate it!! you're a great writer, you know?

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posted April 07, 2008 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
hey heart cakes...

I have been resting and i feel much better now, but i have a lot of work on my hands. unfortunately, that type of writing comes when I really tired, so I will wait for another sleeping dry spell to do the Jupiter one.

Be Good and take care.

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posted April 07, 2008 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Holy WOW is right!!! Unmoved, you blew me away

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heart cakes
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posted April 07, 2008 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
i know hey!?

you should seriously get sleep deprived more often (in moderation of course ) and write a book, lady. i seriously felt like i was THERE in your little jaunt through space. amazing.

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posted April 07, 2008 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Zala - are you surprised that you teach so well? I bet you thought I was fooling around.

okay, lemme edit the above. I cringe every time I read the errors.

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indyBee
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posted April 07, 2008 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
my goodness!!

that is ME!! an aquarian and you are on point with what is exactly going on with me at this present moment!! wooow!!

wooow BRILLIANT!! THANK YOU UNMOVED!!!

great work digging deep deep down inside !!

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