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Topic: Free-be Chasers
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Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 11, 2008 05:30 PM
What's makes you cheap?Cancer influence of hording money? Or... Taurus influence for their security issues and... FREE FOOD. Or... The old fashion, traditional Caps who use handkerchiefs for 'recycling purposes? Write on people! IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4712 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 11, 2008 05:35 PM
My Yenta always said....IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Knowflake Posts: 994 From: New York, NY Registered: Sep 2007
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posted April 11, 2008 05:51 PM
I know a man with Venus square Saturn who is very rich but he is very cheap. His father was very cheap with him while raising him and he is still that way. I know another man who has Venus opposite Saturn and he's also cheap with himself but buys expensive yet inappropriate gifts for his girlfriends. Inappropriate in that he buys things a girl usually wouldn't want, nothing romantic.I can't be 100% sure it's just the stressful Venus-Saturn aspects, but it's a start. Geocosmic Valentine IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 11, 2008 05:58 PM
Hmmmm... nice one Geo. My Venus is Virgo, and my Saturn is Libra... my bad. I thought I was a free-be chaser there for a sec. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted April 11, 2008 06:14 PM
Interesting. I can't establish any patterns in the two misers that I know. Still looking though.One is notoriously a miser and leaves his wallet at home deliberately to make the date pay. The other one gives crap presents but spends a lot on himself (on junk mostly). IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 13873 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted April 11, 2008 06:28 PM
I've got Saturn opposite Venus. I would say that I fairly regularly indulge myself, but at the same time I do find myself not wanting to spend. I think money discipline is something either I'm teaching myself, or the Universe/God is teaching me.IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 11, 2008 06:48 PM
LOL AG - Hmmmm... Miser Pop Quiz: So, say you go on a date, does she pay half, or do you pay for the full bill. You asked her out? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 13873 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted April 11, 2008 07:06 PM
I pay.My current girlfriend (of 20 months), a Sag, is really my first girlfriend to really challenge me on who pays. She's always saying that she owes me whether it's for taking her to dinner, or even just eating at my house. My feeling is that if I provide it, then I'm not expecting to be paid back for it or anything. She is a Capricorn rising herself, so maybe that explains a little. IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 11, 2008 07:10 PM
Then you're NOT cheap! When I had a boyfriend I challenged him too because it was just too much, so we decided that if I take him out, as a treat, I would get to pay... but even so he used to try some trick to pay anyways. I think that you are likely just responsible with cash and you probably don't squander it like the rest of us. Which is responsibility not frugality. IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 11, 2008 07:19 PM
Wouldn't Free-bee chasers be a Jupiter and Venus gone bad?IP: Logged |
marsconjunctmercury Knowflake Posts: 956 From: Isle of Wight U.K Registered: Dec 2005
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posted April 12, 2008 08:07 AM
In my vast experience and superior knowledge and intuition, Aries, Taurus, Virgo, and Aquarius are ALWAYS as tight as a ducks a$$. ------------------ 4th December 1974 18:00GMT Isle of Wight U.K marsconjunctmercury@yahoo.co.uk neutralcruiser@hotmail.co.uk IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 12, 2008 12:06 PM
nice simile. (re: ducks err.. ya know) it reminds me of a few I know...Ok, but... the signs you mentioned cause stinginess or "frugality" in which aspects, or which houses, etc? or do you mean when they aspect each other? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 13873 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted April 12, 2008 01:01 PM
I'll go ahead and contradict this notion abuot Aries, Taurus, and Aquarius. I've seem quite a bit of generosity from all three of these signs.With Virgo, I haven't seen anything to make me believe that they're stingy with their money. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4712 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 12, 2008 01:05 PM
I've seen some serious tightness with the earth signs.They seem to be the worst offenders. Especially taurus. IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 12, 2008 01:32 PM
My husband is Aquarian. Stupidly generous, I think it is the Mars in Leo that is doing it. It clashes with my Venus in Taurus which is considerably tighter. But as they say, there's no pockets in shrouds, so we've found some common ground between burying it all in the bank and lending it to the losers in the pub. IP: Logged |
mblover Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Nov 2007
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posted April 12, 2008 02:30 PM
I will give general experience.Aries - Not Free-be Chasers. Once they are into something, they want it no matter what cost. Taurus - Free-be Chasers. Cautious and always need to acquire physical material at discount. But I have seen some really stupid Taurus people. Gemini - Not Free-be Chasters. Although very logical, they love to wonder around and spend for new experiences Cancer - Free-be Chasers. Watch how they love to reuse plastic bottles ;-) Leo - Not Free-be Chasers. The most generous sign. In fact, Free-be stuff will hurt their Ego. They love to pay for their service. Virgo - Free-be Chasers. Highly analytical in finding best possible cost. Some who are very detailed oriented are really stingy, others are generous in helping because they are selfless. Libra - Not Free-be Chasers. Highly royale and attractive folks. They'll spend generously on beauty and charming services. But watch them go through Balancing process before they come to conclusion. Scorpio - Not Free-be Chasers - only if money spent is to achieve higher control or higher status. Highly discriminating. They won't pay unless they know the service is fine quality and proven. Watch them go through highest level of investigation before they buy Cars, Houses or Clothes. Sag - Not Free-be Chasers - ruled by Jupiter, these are party loving folks. Money is always spent generously to continously find new adventures. Watch them spend on Books, Travel, Spiritual stuff, Parties etc. Capricorn - Somewhere in between - Most of them at later age 40+ will not be Free-be chasers as they would have reached their mountain or confidence level. But at young age, watch them looking for Money and Discounts. Aquarius - Not Free-be Chasers. They will pay for the parties, groups, humanity and friends. But they love to logically think and go through Uranian thinking that doesn't exist in books. Watch them closely how they conflict against Virgos. Pisces - Not Free-be Chasers. Well, these folks don't care subconciously because in their dream world. Money doesn't play significant role. Generous givers and sacrifices money for others. IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 12, 2008 02:44 PM
Being mean-minded isn't great, but neither is being wasteful. My mother ~ ironically a Leo ~ cuts open the toothpaste tubes and scrapes the remains out to save waste. She hates waste. But as she grew up in poverty and on rationing, it would be unfair to criticise. Fast-forward 60 years and she is right up to date with ecological concerns about carbon footprints. Plenty of people about are flash with their cash when it comes to their own luxuries but they wouldn't part with a penny for the local childrens hospice. Go somewhere were people don't have a pot to p!ss in, they will give you the last pennies in their purse. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4712 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 12, 2008 02:55 PM
My general experience is that air/fire signs are more expansive, adventurous, and need more stimulation. Thus they tend to spend more. Earth/water is more introverted and often seek quiet and peace, tend to worry more about security so they tend to spend less.
One sign that I"ve never seen be tight is Leo. To a fault, in my opinon.
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blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 12, 2008 02:57 PM
Never met a tight Leo? I have ~ very generous with her time, not a scrounger, but her "frugal" is another person's "tight". IP: Logged |
Lady Neptune Knowflake Posts: 64 From: Registered: Jul 2007
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posted April 12, 2008 03:11 PM
My son is a leo with merc and venus also in leo in the 8th house. He has saturn in aquarius in the 2nd house opposing merc/ven but not the sun. He loves to live large on other peoples money but is very stingy with his ownIP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 12, 2008 03:22 PM
Okay.Let's take me for example. Virgo Sun and Venus which squares my Neptune and Uranus respectively. I spend a lot of money on people. I like taking people out to dinners most of all, and if I invited you, it's not likely that I expect you to pay. I am not label conscious and I buy what looks best on me, so in my closet I have pricey items as well as cheap items. I am particular about certain brands though, like my perfumes, face washes, and make-up, which are pricey BUT no matter how broke I am, I will still invest in them. I would rather be without than use something else, cheaper or not. So, I am a brand loyal person, if I have found something that works for me. I am slightly careless with money, or not as careful as the people around me. if I see something I like, I buy it. But, I am not crazy enough to buy things on credit unless it's bigger things like a car. Even that makes me uncomfortable because I hate debt, even though I have some. I think this is my reason for my habits: My Venus is conflicted in Virgo, making me not as decadent as I would like to be. My Neptune in the 2nd house squares my Virgo sun so I don't typically spend like most Virgos. Uranus squares my Venus, so i suppose that I am not as free as others with cash. I live a very minimalistic life, but I think it's circumstance than preference. When I am out, I am always buying people drinks. It's my way of saying "hello". My friends even start to threaten taking my wallet away. Living in the city, people assume that girls are out to get men's money, so the first thing I do, when I get into an environment is let the guys know that I will accept a treat, but it's not because I need it. I like taking my friends to events like comedy shows, so if we are not on the list, I am happy to buy tickets. Unless I am really broke, I won't ask for people to reimburse me because I get times when they treat me. My friends and I don't count pennies, and those that don't are me and my Cap sun/Virgo Moon friend. The rest are always trying to get a free meal. These are the Cancer and the Sagittarius ones. I don't know if their behaviour is exclusive to me, but all my Earth sign friends are always generous to me. I seldom buy people tangible things though. I buy people experiences, and yes, I usually regret it the next day when I see my bank statement, but like magic "Voila" I always get the money back somehow. If I buy presents, I usually give away vouchers to a spa, or to shop (for yourself), or host your dinner party. I also buy a lot of flowers for people. I buy people presents all the time because if I see something that I think someone might like, I buy it. But it is usually little things with sentimental value. I don't just buy people stuff that's nice but meaningless. If you come to me to borrow money, I won't give it to you. Instead I will render the service you require. So, if you need money to pay a bill, I'll ask to transfer funds directly to that bill. If I am broke, I will say I can't help, and I won't feel guilty about it. So, I think that because my Virgos are badly aspected, I am not as tight-handed as I should be, and because my Jupiter is well aspected, it makes me less stingy too. I am a financial wizard for other people's money, but I need a financial adviser to look after my @ss because I simply love giving if I can give. That's why I am always fighting with men about the bill - but I have had it explained to me and I understand that it's a male ego thing, so I let 'em pay... Also, I get a lot from people so it wouldn't make sense to be stingy. IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 12, 2008 03:29 PM
And I also grew up in poverty, but you would not say. That's why the "rich" kids think we have something in common, for some reason, and when we get to know each other I always tell them that I have worked for everything I have. They get shocked because I don't wear my past's hardships on my shoulder.Where I grew up is very different to the life i have now, but I don't go telling people about the value of money and such. I am just happy to have some (when I have some). IP: Logged |
luv and light Knowflake Posts: 49 From: L.A. CA USA Registered: Apr 2008
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posted April 16, 2008 03:29 AM
Mars conjuct Mercury said: quote: in my vast experience and superior knowledge and intuition, Aries, Taurus, Virgo, and Aquarius are ALWAYS as tight as a ducks a$$.
I KNEW you weren't dead yet Beautiful insight as always <BOW> IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 2528 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted April 16, 2008 06:29 AM
I'm a Taurus and I love spending money. I know someone with Saturn in the 2nd house and they have some real major issues as far as it goes that they are extremely tight-@ss about spending money on stuff. It seems to be a security issue and a fear of 'not having'. IP: Logged |
venusdeindia Knowflake Posts: 1630 From: mumbai,india Registered: Nov 2006
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posted April 16, 2008 10:43 AM
sun n moon in cancer heer ... man i luuuuuuuuuvvvvvvvvv freebies but jupiter trine both sun n moon also makes me very generous IP: Logged |