posted April 13, 2008 10:16 PM         

It's really THAT simple. They are INCREDIBLY idealistic and compassionate. If you play with this one and hurt him/her once. That was your chance.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted April 13, 2008 10:44 PM         

But it totally depends on the condition of venus and the rest of the chart.

posted April 13, 2008 11:07 PM         

We were hanging out the other day, and she mentioned how her ex had come over the night before. In the past, she'd told me how she checks out his email (she has his password) and knows that he's seeing someone else. I have a class with him, and am sort of friends with him, and know that he's interested in other women. Which is fine, he's available. But my sister seems to still think of him as her bf. They still sleep together.

Anyway, when she mentioned that he came over the previous night, I asked her why she lets him treat her like a booty call. That didn't go over well. It was a nasty thing to say, but I just don't understand her. I have Venus in Cap and I don't go for those kinds of relationships. I want her to treat herself right. I know she's hurting.

She responded that not everyone is as lucky in love as I am. I told her I create my luck.

But now that I think more about it, I am lucky b/c internally I'm just not designed to be that sacrificing in love. Treat me right, or I'm gone. It is lucky to innately be like that. I've never felt the torment of being in love with someone who's bad for me.

posted April 14, 2008 06:26 AM         

however someone who really despise people makes me want either to change them or... to change them.

you see, what i'm attracted to is someone sensitive but also someone who respect and love in a spiritual way. with all his heart, and everyone. someone that tries to love his ennemy too. if his love is that pure, there's a big chance i'll be already thinking about the wedding invitations even if i haven't spoken to him yet (but that's probably due to eros in aries). and if the guy come out of prison, even better, i'll protect him, reassure him, and love him (that's the least i can do to someone who'll have to spend the rest of his life with my imperfect me).

the following is a description of how venus in scorpio relates to venus in pisces from cafeastrology:

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How You Relate to a Partner with Venus in Pisces: The two of you have different Venus signs, but they both are Water signs. This suggests an overall understanding of each other. You sense in each other a similar kind of depth in your approach to relationships, which can promote an instant bond in and of itself. You love intuitively and emotionally—you don't use your mind to judge whether a person is good for you or not. You need to feel the connection. The same goes for your Venus in Pisces partner. You are more focused on an intimate and exclusive bond than your partner is, however. Your partner loves deeply and with his or her heart, but you might wonder just how exclusive those feelings are towards you. You want to get under your lover's skin, and you are not always thrilled to share your partner with the rest of the world. So, when your partner is expressing his or her compassion for pretty much everyone that comes around the corner, you may feel a tad threatened. You need to understand and accept your partner's love of mankind in general. You might worry that your lover strays too easily—and it's not about him or her having an affair. It's more a concern that your partner is too impressionable. Why worry about the rest of the world when he or she has you? That's the kind of attitude you might hold, and this could be your relationship's biggest issue. Otherwise, the two of you find much in common. Your partner is more than likely to appreciate your intensity and depth of feeling.

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posted April 14, 2008 08:45 AM         

in black is what is relevant to your question blkfox

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Venus
The study of Venus's position into the Zodiac gives us very important information about the way a human being manifests her feelings and preferences, what she likes most, what she is attracted of, the type of eroticism she presents, who she express herself into a relationship and what she expect from it.

When speaking about a man's natal chart, Venus's position gives us also important information about the woman he prefers as a lover.

Let's now proceed studying the twelve position of Venus into the Zodiac:

VENUS IN ARIES
The natives who have this astrological position tend to have many experiences in the sentimental and erotic field, falling in love unexpectedly and sometimes even at the first sight.

The person can seem very unstable and unfaithful but in fact she/he only wants to live the relationship to a high intensity and, as by the time passing the intensity usually diminishes, they prefer to fall in love again than to fight for an old relationship.

The persons who don't have the courage to throw themselves in an adventure annoy them and they don't like to elaborate plans.

They have a fiery and passionate disposition and a very direct way of expressing their feelings.

This position predisposes them to be heart-brokers and for enjoying love-fights. They also have the tendency to resume old love affaires.

Their lives are very adventurous and they don't like the idea of marriage, or if they get married they do it unexpectedly.

They can be impressed if they meet a person more passionate than they are, and in this case they can surprise us by their unexpected faithfulness.

VENUS IN TAURUS
This position gives a very strong predisposition to enjoy life, to taste the carnal pleasures, and makes them very sensitive to the physical attraction and physical contact, to the smell, to the tone of the voice and generally to whatever detail might rise their hyper-sensuous senses.

Their feelings take time to grow and each time a person attracts them, their desire increase up to one point when they turn into a passion.

When their hearts are trapped in this net of the attraction, they generally go on till they fulfill their desires and if the physical relationship is not possible they can become very frustrated.

If they are satisfied they prove to be very good lovers, offering much pleasure and attention to the persons they are with, taking care of their lovers' needs and fulfilling their desires.

When they are in a relationship they tend to attach themselves, they often become possessive and tend to ask for exclusivity but in their turn they tend to be faithful to their relationships.

VENUS IN GEMINI
They are characterized by a great amount of curiosity, which is the main reason for which they begin a relationship.

Their feelings can be compared with the images from a kaleidoscope, which can captivate us by their beauty but are not twice the same.

They have an inborn taste for love-plays, for flirtation, for short relationships, sometimes with totally unknown people.

They manifest the tendency to have very many relationships at the same time, to which they don't pay much attention but which can make them feel good because they don't have the time to get annoyed.

They are not especially preoccupied by the physical interaction in itself but by the novelty.

Their sentimental life may be compared with the image of a butterfly, flying from flower to flower, never stopping in one place. The faithfulness is not their forte, and they don't like the possessive lovers.

They don't bother to fight for a relationship if they are confronted with some troubles, and they tend to fly away from a serious relationship.

They generally posses a very good sense of dissimulation, which help them solve their conflicts in a friendly way.

They are also endowed with a lot of spontaneity, they like the surprises and they are very communicative and you don't risk to get bored as long as you are in their company.

VENUS IN CANCER
This position endows the natives with a romantic disposition, which makes them look for their perfect pair and dream of the day when they meet each other.

They are very sensitive, very tender, sweet, well disposed, and they have a very intimate charm and grace.

They can be very shy at the beginning of a relationship, but if you approach them in a very delicate way, they will begin to trust you and they will show you their warm feelings.

This position gives the natives a very deep tenderness, the power to sacrifice their own desires for the well being of the persons they love and the ability to create a warm and intimate atmosphere around them.

They love very much their family and their home for which they do anything to better protect. They also love children and it is very easy for them to take care of their children.

Sometimes this position can give the natives a certain emotional instability, a very strong need for protection and a deep attachment to the image of their mothers.

When they love someone, they do almost everything in order to be with their beloved and are able to completely ignore their needs in order to make the others happy.

They are extremely devoted to their families and are faithful to their lovers.

They are very affected by the idea of separation and they will not leave from a relationship if there is the lightest chance to save it, unless you hurt them very badly.

VENUS IN LEO
The persons who have Venus in Leo like very much to be admired, to be in the center of everybody's attention and they manifest their presence in a very expansive way, needing much room in order to appear in their spectacular way.

Because of their constant preoccupation for their glamour they can often seem empathic and even artificial.

They have strong passions, but they don't display them, letting the other perceive them only in a noble, dignified disposition.

They can be conquered by adoring them, praising their qualities and offering them gifts, and they can be approached by giving them the opportunity of manifesting their generosity.

When they feel in love, they use all their talents to seduce the person they love, looking better than ever, but they would not do anything explicitly because they can't accept the fact of being refused. They just shine and expect the others to pay their homage.

When they agree to begin a relationship, they have the pretension to become the center of the other's life, but in their turn they are very devoted to their relationship and want to make the other feel their regal nobility and generosity.

They are generally too proud to show their problems and they prefer to solve them alone. But if you are the lucky person of whom they fall in love, then you would transform your life into a great feast.

VENUS IN VIRGO
The feelings are more reserved, discrete, the person being rather predisposed to censure his emotions and rationalize them.

Sometimes they manifest a strong aspiration towards purity. They tend not to manifest either their feelings or emotions or their eroticism because they have a powerful need to mentally control the situation.

Even when they fall in love they don't want to loose their control, compensating their feelings by a continuous analysis of their relationships, by a very keen criticism and an ironical behavior.

They have to understand that love can't be understood with the limited mental abilities, it can't be rationalized. Because of their reticence, they need much time to trust someone, but when they assume a relationship they tend to be faithful.

They don't like the superficialities of the love play and they are not quite the romantic type, but with them you can be sure you'll have someone to get you on earth and they have a very good capacity of sublimating low impulses into mental understanding.

VENUS IN LIBRA
This position gives much charm and attractiveness, grace and kindness. The lovers of the person with Venus in Libra will be delighted by the way this native know to offer them peace, harmony and refined pleasures.

The natives love very much the courteous persons and they have a good sense of the human relationships.

Sometimes they use intuition and empathy in order to make the others feel well to such an extent that they can give the impression of a complete affective participation although they only want to create a harmonious atmosphere.

They know very well how to enjoy every movement and they fully live their privacy with their lovers. They are predisposed to a comfortable life and they like to live in a luxurious environment.

They are remarkable by their aesthetic sense, their general sensibility to beauty and their life with their beloved and they are expert in bringing happiness into their couple. They seem to be created for union and marriage.

VENUS IN SCORPIO
In this case the lethal attractions are the keyword. The person has very strong emotions, and their intensity may determine her not to take care of the social conveniences and becoming unscrupulous when speaking about erotic issues.

They generally have very much sex appeal, but they are not a model in what love is concerned. They are full of passion, they live very intensely their lives and they are often extremist, passing very easily from love to hate and the way round.

They tend to become jealous and they have a revengeful disposition. They don't know any inhibition in lovemaking and they expect from the others to behave in the same way.

They are endowed with an inborn sense of eroticism and they are generally precocious in this field. For them, the erotic life is extremely important in a relationship and they tend to mix up the attraction with the love.

They can be attracted up to the point of becoming erotically obsessed and they like the relationships that can produce them very intense and unusual experiences in their erotic life.

For the persons they really love, they can be very good allies, sustaining them with the same passion with which they make love.

VENUS IN SAGITTARIUS
This position of Venus predisposes the natives to guide their relationships according to a high spiritual ideal, love being for them a way of manifesting the universal laws.

The principles and the intentions are more important for them than the exterior actions, and they guide themselves according to the moral values they accept and understand.

Sometimes they manifest their liberty as a disposition to adventure, and they assume the risk of experiencing new aspects of life they haven't yet known, fully enjoying what life offers to them.

Other times their lives can be devoted to a principle in which they believe and to which they devote their whole being.

The physical relationships are not important for them unless it is based on a deeper soul communication and the sharing of the same ideals, although they are passionate and enjoy living intensely.

They have a very developed sense of friendship, and although they like the flirtation, they don't guide their live on the erotic criteria.

They don't like the possessive people or those too attached to the physical relationships and they aspire after a free and idealized relationship.

VENUS IN CAPRICORN
It is not very favorable to the sentimental and erotic life. The persons who have this position tend to take their friendship very seriously, being responsible, mature and reticent in beginning a more intimate relationship.

They control their feelings up to the point of completely inverting them. They are very sober with the others in general and with the representative of the other sex in particular.

They don't show their feelings and they need much time to let someone approach them.

It is very hard for them to fall in love, but when they do it can be for the whole life. They are predisposed to solitude and they prefer to suffer in silence than manifesting their love if the other person don't pay them the expected attention.

Sometimes they can marry from a certain interest, from a convenience or even from their strong sense of duty.

They are generally preoccupied by their social and professional position to which they pay much time and they expect from their lovers to have a similar position.

They are not fond of the domestic life and they generally don't like children.

Although they seem very distant, when they really like someone they are very devoted and can do many sacrifices to continue a relationship.

VENUS IN AQUARIUS
It gives the natives an airy (or ethereal) sensibility, with a light, gracious, sublimated nuance. Their emotions are very much elevated and they live in a state of serenity, very distant of the earth.

They understand love in a very idealized way and their eroticism is rather a way of living a spiritual communion.

Sometimes the accent is put on a very free and non-conformist way of manifesting themselves, ignoring the social constraints.

They are not interested in marriage as a social, rigid habit, because they think that what really matters is the soul and spiritual communion.

Their relationships are not based on the physical interaction but, when it is the case, they don't have any prejudgments in making love and they are very open-minded in their erotic expectations.

They don't like the possessive and jealous persons because for them liberty is the most important criteria in a couple and if they feel constraint they leave from relationship.

They are good friends, being interesting and often original companions.

VENUS IN PISCES
Gives the native very much tenderness, sensibility, compassion, kindness.

Their love is often based on a mystical view upon the world and they are characterized by a dominant power of transfiguration and devotion.

They can seem incoherent in their feelings and manifestations because they act in accordance with some invisible realities, which they perceive by their intuitive structure.

Sometimes, this position can give the tendency to have uncertain and mysterious relationships, with an indefinite status, which is in a perpetual changing and enable the individual to live in a complete liberty of manifestation.

They like privacy very much, and they feel the fact of making love as a total way of abandoning themselves, of merging into the person they love.

They can't stand any form of constraint and if they are imposed to do something, they just slip between your fingers.

When they feel inspired, they are very loving beings, being able to sacrifice themselves for their beloved ones.

They have also a very charitable soul and they live for the others, sharing their happiness and trying to soothe their sorrows.

With this position the zodiacal tour for the planet of love and pleasure, Venus, is finished.
We can add more only an important aspect, referring to the so called 'three steps of love'.

It is a tradition in astrology that they are three main positions of Venus in the zodiac:
- Venus in Taurus, which signifies the carnal, physical love
- Venus in Libra, which signifies the human love, the warmth of the human relationship, from soul to soul
- Venus in Pisces, which signifies the spiritualized, pure love

It is said that these three steps must be learned by every human being for becoming complete.

Knowing all the three aspects of love we can become universal and, of course our relationship will then be a model of harmony and beauty!

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lovingly,

posted April 14, 2008 10:25 AM         

I had no idea a venus in pisces was so sensitive. I have both mars and venus in libra so I have a totally different approach. I love communication and fairness in a relationship. It's a definite partnership with me.

However, the guy my heart belongs to is a Cappie with both mars and venus in pisces. I always thought he was a big softie underneath his serious yet fun ( he has saggie asc) demeanour.

I don't deal with loads of emotional stuff very well, I think I become too rational and don't want to get caught up in tidal waves of emotion. My mum has venus in cancer and I have found her overwhelming in the past.

Although, the Cappie, I think is strong enough...he has a saggie moon but I do wonder if libra venus versus pisces venus just won't work. Too different energies.

posted April 14, 2008 06:48 PM         

Maybe...she really picked "Neptune" type guys. It was almost like she had Neptune in the 7th...she picked drug addicts and abusers. It's a shame.

***Actually, I think LadyNeptune is right in that there is a strong "Martyr" element to Pisces. There's a need to sacrifice and if they feel they need to sacrifice a part of themselves in order to keep someone in their lives, then it makes sense to me. So yes, in that sense, the torture chamber must be the place.
Once again, a great example of how people express these measurements individually.***

Yes, they can be like neptune in the 7th houser's. It can go either way, just like neptune in the 7th. They can exhibit the highest forms of venus in pisces, which would be a truly spiritual love that transcends all others, or they fall for the "bird with a broken wing."

posted April 15, 2008 01:57 AM         

What fun, lol!

I have to keep telling myself to remove the rose coloured glasses and NOT let the people I love treat me like a doormat. It takes me ages to even REALISE I'm being treated like a doormat because of those rose coloured glasses.
Luckily with age comes wisdom and I'm erring on the side of caution when it comes to my relationships with ALL people.

posted April 15, 2008 02:34 AM         

I could never do that though because I'd be devastated emotionally. I'm sensitive, especially so when I'm in love. My deep dark secret is that I'm a total romantic. Love is sacred to me, and I hate to put limits on falling in love. To me, I need the boundaries of an official relationship to let myself feel safe and free to really love and to trust that I'm being loved back.

But that's what I need. I know other people are different. I guess the test is - is this working for you? If the situation isn't hurting you, maybe this relationship is good for you right now. But if it is hurting you... Why continue? Love doesn't have to hurt. It's far better when it doesn't, actually.

I wish my sister would move on b/c I know her situation with her ex is hurting her. She's spying on him (reading his email & his myspace), which means she cares about what (who) he's doing. She's not at peace with being friends with benefits; she wants the commitment back. But he doesn't, so I wish she'd value herself and put her energy, attention, and affection into a relationship with someone who would treat her sweetly and honor the relationship. And he's not some heartless jerk. He's just not interested in being in the relationship anymore. I wish he'd stop taking advantage of her lingering feelings for him though. It's making it harder for me to respect him. I think it's a little cruel for him to keep having sex with her, knowing that she's still in love with him.