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Topic: Composite Charts - Midpoint VS Davidson
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posted April 15, 2008 12:38 AM
So if anyone's ever generated a composite chart, it's a safe bet that their first one was created using the midpoint method. The halfway point btw Suns is the relationship Sun, etc. This intuitive and simple method seems to be overwhelmingly the favorite among astrologers. A few years ago, I came across an article that talked about an another way to create a composite chart, called the Davison method. After comparing and contrasting the charts I received from both methods, I concluded the Davison method seemed to produce a truer chart for my relationships. I wanted to know if anyone else has had this experience, or would like to try out the comparison for themselves, right here. I'd be willing to create and post the charts myself, and even offer some input on the analysis. Anyone wanna try? Edit: Method is actually called Davison not Davidson, but for some reason my reference misspelled it. IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2008 03:10 AM
tried it (Davison)dunno midpoint thing seems to portray something resembling accuracy IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2008 12:18 PM
Maybe it's just a matter of preference then, because my relationships have been much better described Davison charts - like reading a book practically. I suppose they could just be two layers/aspects of the relationship...Anybody else? IP: Logged |
amowls Newflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2008 12:31 PM
I feel that the Davison chart gives more insight to a midpoint composite chart. For example, I've been dating a guy for the past 4 months but he doesn't want to make it official, but is extremely romantic with me. In our midpoint chart, the Sun is in the 5th house (romance) and in our Davison, it's in the 12th (secret affairs). IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 15, 2008 03:10 PM
personally I prefer Davison. I actually find the composite to be a load of rubbish. The Davison is far more accurate imho but I'm no astrologer.IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2008 03:45 PM
I think the best use of the midpoint charts might just be to interpret the hard aspects, as argued here - quote: Now, having said that I do slightly disagree with Rob Hand, I'm going to present an argument that completely support his position. Because the Composite Chart is a Midpoint Chart, it's not possible to be "positive" of the sign placement of any of the planets. The most that you can do is to be sure of the sign axis.In general, when working with midpoints, the sign and house position is not taken into consideration. Most midpoint work is done using the 90 degree dial which ignores the individual signs and houses entirely and operates entirely based on hard aspects. Each point on the 90 degree dial is actually 4 points on the 360 wheel, so when working with midpoints, both the direct and the opposite midpoint are combined, along with the two points that square the midpoint axis. Midpoints between two planets can be "triggered" at any of the 4 points: the direct (or near) midpoint, the opposite (far) midpoint, and also at the two points squaring the midpoints. Considering the Composite Chart is a midpoint chart, this is a pretty compelling argument to ignore the signs.
I remember creating a midpoint chart with one of my exes where we had a couple of stellium spread over 3 consecutive signs. I suppose I could interpret this as being in a constricted relationship with a tight focus, but that's about all that was accurate. The Davison chart I cast showed all the interactions within the relationship - our Uranus/Moon conjunction (yes, we have a very emotionally torrential relationship) opposing our Mercury/Sun (totally a relationship based on mental interaction). These two themes were definitely at odds and after it became clear that these recurring, almost regularized relationship meltdowns were never going to be resolved, I decided we needed to part ways. It was tough getting out tho, almost as if the relationship was very restrictive and binding, as shown by the midpoint chart. Weirdly, I have found that aspects repeated in both charts are usually the most important/accurate ones for the relationship. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 19, 2009 10:23 PM
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staborgi Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 24, 2009 12:34 AM
In my experience, the composite shows your relationship- the dynamics, themes, etc. while the Davison shows what actually HAPPENS between you two- how things actually work out and go down in your relationship. Since Davison is calculated with physical birth place in mind, this seems to make sense to me. I think of the Davison as a very physical thing, if that makes sense. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2009 05:30 PM
Well, one can assume thatDavison is more valid, as Davison is based on a real chart whereas Composite is not. But if we assume that a chart based on the midpoints of the physical positions between planets isn't valid, then isn't a chart based on the time and space midpoints also not valid? Also, many stated that the composite can show "impossible" aspects, yet this isn't true - for example, the distance between Sun and Mercury in a chart will never be more than 28 degrees, which means that the distance between the midpoints between two people's Suns and the midpoints between their Mercuries can never be more than 28 degrees (in simpler words, in the composite, we can never find awkward angles between the celestial bodies).And well, we can say that composite is a hypothetical chart based on mathematical midpoints. Yet isn't the whole astrological system abstract and based on mathematics? Also, the midpoints are actually based on the existing physical positions of the planets between two charts, which seems to make more sense than planetary positions that were in the middle of time and space between two people's birthday. But well, in any cases, it's possible to find insights through different systems of symbolism, and it actually depends on how skilled an astrologer is to be able to find useful information out of each system. Each system is different, and it's up to each of us to find out which works better. By the way, composite charts are more than the "visible" aspects. Aspects to and between midpoints can also show important insights.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2073 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 10, 2015 11:05 PM
BUMP, great discussion happening here.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 57970 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 11, 2015 10:21 AM
Agreed! Moving it to IA where others will see it.IP: Logged | |