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Topic: Help with exacting my ASC
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Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 17, 2008 04:30 PM
hIOne of these days i saw a thread where a knowflake asked for help to exact his ASC. As i also have some doubts on what to think i would apreciate any help about it. The thing is according to astro.com , this is my chart,where Asc is 0ºLibra Cause it assumes the City of birth,giving the coordinates of 8w36 and 41n11. BUT If i go to www.Widjetsworld.co.uk,where it places the chart according to the exact coordinates of the place where i was born within the City,it places my ASC at 11º57 Libra.( huge diference from the other degree). (i changed the hour in this chart for you to see the placements of planets,and degrees of angles that changed according to Widget,and placed the chart at Astro as if my asc was 11º57´LiBRA): You can ask questions of important events/mars in time if it´s any help
Thankx
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Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 17, 2008 05:06 PM
What time were you born at? and what country/city?IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 17, 2008 06:06 PM
well,my Mom said it was 15 minutes after my twin sister,who was born at 8:45 am,but i think it can be more of a few minutes than just 9:00 cause it gives me Virgo asc - and i feel much more libra than virgo,both in thinking and feeling. I also have those dimples in the cheek and knees ( libra risings particularity)So,the time is between 9:00 and 9:03 - and i was born in oporto,in portugal at Hospital Sao Joao IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 17, 2008 08:01 PM
I think Widget's world hasn't taken daylight saving into account because you were born in BST time. Astro.com gives me 29 degrees Virgo for 9 am. Have you had any significant events happen like a birth, a move, a significant relationship or marriage. Check out the dates and run the transits to your natal chart for those dates and see if there is any significant aspect(particularly conjunction or opposition) to 29 degrees Virgo or early Libra.IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 17, 2008 08:08 PM
i'm just re reading your post. If you want to post some significant dates out I'll have a look, I'm only amateur mind!IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 05:52 AM
Hi Quinniethanks for giving a help - it doenst matter if you re an amateur,im much more a newbie than you -matters is that here we are all learning and sharing isnt it? Yup,that´s part of the doubts.29ºVirgo..i dont feel like that, a double Virgo,im very different from my twin sister,both psysicall and psychologically. im not married neither have a child,but yes i am having a significant relationship now.i already saw the transits but with 0ºLibra. im gonna show it as being 29 virgo then
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Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 06:05 AM
1ST dATE: THE DAY I MET MY BOYFRIENDas if Virgo ASC is correct: as if Libra 0º asc is the correct: as if 11ºLibra asc is the correct:
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Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 06:45 AM
Day 28th march 2008 - the most significant death i experienced,the one of my Grandmother...i placed some asteroids related to "death" - moira,requiem,anubis IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 07:31 AM
about the 1st chart - and im just guessing...it seems that the 11ºLibra is out of the question : cause TR. NN is really conj the axis ASC/DSC on the one of 29ºVirgo/early Libra ASC ( as S.Node it is conj asc it can be red that on this time we will start karmic relationhisp/meet persons with whom we will learn and expand our Path?) TIll now it fits..but how to have sure of the exact degree? IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 07:55 AM
does it work also if we look at progressions?these were the ones the day i met my bf: P.sun was conj ASC P-Moon was conj DSC (again it seems the 11ºLibra asc it´s put out of the equation isnt it?) IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 18, 2008 09:09 AM
Diandra I met my boyfriend when Natal Venus had progressed to my ascendant. We didn't get together until it was exact. I also looked uo my own grandmother's death which was the most significant death to me. I am a Libran ascendant (although I do not have any dimples whatsoever!). Was your grandmother your mother's mother? The progressed chart of when you met your boyfriend sayd alot! Your sun porgressed to 28 degrees Virgo! I think we are looking at your ascendant being that or remaining at 29 degrees Virgo. The Porgressed chart is very good for timing events too. Also your chart ruler should be very significant player in transits and progressions so if you are a Virgo ascendant Mercury is the planet more than likely to be aspected through progression or transit. It's really a close call because you are 1 degree away from being a Libran ascendant. The thing that going to determine it I think is whether Mercury or Venus is the chart ruler which means that their point in the natal chart should be particularly sensitive also. When I had my babies Venus was being opposed by Uranus transit and the progressed node made an exact trine to my ascendant. Also Venus (chart ruler) had progressed into the first house and the moon into 4th house and Capricorn. I'll have another wee look later but see yourself whether Mercury or Venus is the more active in transits and progressionsIP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 09:14 AM
thanks a lot QUinnie! i didnt kenw you were libra rising congradulations for your babies! i dont have any unfortunatelly so by that happening i cant see nothing Im gonna take a closer look as you said. yup-tricky cause its wehter 29ºVirgo or 0ºLibra-only one small detail isnt it? kiss oh - yes,it was my mother´s mother. IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 03:23 PM
Looking at the rulers,wether it´s Venus or Mercury.Mercury it´s at 0ºLibra in my 1st house. Venus is at 28ºLeo (r)in my 11th. For now i only can see that Mercury it+s in a classic critical degree.Meaning a possible enphatization of the planet,and it assumes more power in the life of the person. Looking at important events: DAY I MET MY BF: PROGRESSIONS: P.Sun conj Mercury(1) P.Moon opose Mercury(3) p Neptune skuared Merc(3) P.KIron trine Mercury(2) p.vENUS/Mars conj Venus(4/3º) P.Neptune trine Venus(1) P.Pluto sextile Venus(0) P.Karma conj Venus(4) TRANSITS: Tr NN opose Merc(0) Tr Amor skuare Merc(0) Tr pLuto trine Venus(2) Tr Amor sextile Venus(2) DAY WE STARTED RELATIONSHIP Tr Merc sextile Merc(0) Tr NN opose Merc(1) Tr Pluto trine Venus(3) Tr NN kikunkx VENUS(0) Funny enough,Tr Venus was conj my NN tILL NOW i cant say really which seems the ruler of my chart. WHAT IF...i look at the Progressed ASC? And try to see what were the most aspected by important angles/planets? ( If ASC is 29ºVIRGO) : day started relationship:my p.asc received trine from NN/Siva/Lilith. My asc was conjunted by sun(exact) and oposed by Moon(1º). in transits,Tr NN was exact conj DSC. (IF ASC IS 0ºLibra): the conj by sun is now by 1orb and the oposition by moon is now 2orb(progressed).the P ASC receives wide trine from NN(3º) in Transits,the Tr NN oposes my asc in 1orb. IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 04:05 PM
Applying Paul Westran´s theroy about important progressions when starting relationships:(IF MY P.ASC IS 29ºVirgo) My P.ASC trine his N.Moon(0º) My P.ASC trine his Valentine(3º) My P.ASC conj his IC(3º) another aspects: My asc trine his P.Kiron (IF MY P.ASC IS 0ºLIBRA): MY P.ASC trine his N.Moon(0º1´) Looking at the possible rulers: His p.Mars trine my P.Venus(0) No main aspects to my P.Merc.. ( the rest stays the same)
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Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 18, 2008 04:14 PM
Ok both are looking good! lol Except one thing to say... the more exact the more potent. Mercury seems to be coming out on top! Also squares, oppositions and conjunctions seem to be more powerful. Also this aspect ... p Neptune skuared Merc(3) if Virgo is your ascendant then Descendant house ruler was squaring Ascendant ruler... very significant. I think your ascendant is 29 Virgo... Plus you are very good at collecting all the information you need to collaborate your ascendant (Virgo thing). Your Ascendant is Virgo though and Mercury ruler is in Libra giving you Libran tones and you are probably a natural beauty! Lucky you!Forgot to add that generally we look to Venus regarding relationships anyway so there should be some exact aspects to Venus whether it's an ascendant ruler or not. Any other times we can transit and progress through? IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 18, 2008 04:15 PM
What is your Boyfriend's Ascendant?IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 04:52 PM
Quinnie, well im not ugly but im not a top model either hihihih I feel much Libra cause i have the "balance of the plates" so many times when it comes to making decisions,and also,looking at me,eveyone says i seem a Libra - im very into arts and music. My Jonnhy is..28ºCancer and figure that..a 6ºLibra Sun.Yup, i atracted a Libra with a Virgo Venus in 26ºdegree What better than an image? here it is-what is the sign that comes to your mind when looking at me? IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 04:58 PM
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Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 18, 2008 05:06 PM
Still if you have Virgo ascendant you would be attractive to his Venus and Libran ascendant his sun!Sounds like you were made for each other. If you are a Virgo ascendant then a Watersign on the ascendant would be attractive for you hence Johnny's asc Cancer. Moon ruling his asc, does his Moon make an aspect to your Mercury or Venus? For me and my man David, (this could be though to make up for a lack of sun/asc aspects) His ascendant is Leo and mine is Libra and His sun is in Pisces opposite (by a 6 degree orb though) my Venus so our chart rulers aspect. Also your Mc changes too does either MC describe your career better? IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 18, 2008 05:10 PM
lol first thing I thought was Aquarius! you do have symmetrical features but is that a Mercury brow-line? I'm still thinking Virgo.Post your pic up in a new thread and see what everyone thinks IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 05:18 PM
Aqua?really?never thought of that hihihIt is said that when a couple sare a sun/asc conj they do can seem look alike,but if i take it,it´s a wide orbº -6º... about the MC: i took a degree on health and environment but im not working at the area-for now i have a baby store,but my biggest aim is to be a published writter ( hmm 29ºGem kind of fits?) If it´s 0ºGem MC - well, i consider im very nurturing person and i love children and i´d love to be a Mom ( but that+s not a MC matter hihih) About his Moon: falls into my 5th and unfortunatelly doenst aspect my venus or mercury About other important date:my entering on the University: October of 2002 (Tr Saturn was 28Gem and Tr Merc was 1ºLibra) and again,another important date:Ocotber of 2003 when ive entered another University to take the degree in Health and Environment. Ends of October 2006 - I was surgered at a benign tumor, was really scaring experience,but went really fine. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 18, 2008 05:25 PM
You are a beautiful couple! What about his Saturn (desc ruler) aspect any?You have very neat features and a purity which would suggest Virgo to me. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 18, 2008 05:35 PM
ok. I have a Cancer Mc looking towards a couselling career after having my two boys, both just toddlers now. My Moon is in Aquarius so I like the alternative approach and studying hypno-psychotherapy if all goes well I'd like to really venture into that. Anyway just an idea of what kind of career someone with cancer midheaven would choose. ok looking at your chart now. It's very drawn out but enjoying this!
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Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 05:35 PM
THanks for the compliments Quinnie!About the purity thing,it comes from my childwood,everyone of my friends always said that i am too "pure of Mind" to be in this world hihihi - i didnt taked that as a complimment but as time passes by,i think i like my virgo purity - it was one of the things it gave me points when i met John,no doubt of that.Still today he says that.. His Saturn kikunk my moon exact;sextile my venus wide(5º);sextile Nep(1),trine NN(3) and MC(6º) IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2240 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted April 18, 2008 05:41 PM
It´s a wonderful pick!before i choose,i thought about psychology myself That+s a great choice- alternative approaching. I believe more and more about that kind of theraphies.My mother had hypnosis and she sais it has helped her a lot about her own karmas and "inner ghosts" It might sound strange,but i dont know the exact days when i entered the University.i know that it was in the early days of the month Some time ago i already started a thread to see what ASC the knowflakes thougt me to have but had ,little answers... and many difering ones another
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