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belgz
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posted April 18, 2008 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
What in my chart shows i cant fall pregnant?

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Diandra23
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posted April 18, 2008 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
can you lace the asteroids ceres and lilith?

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SilverFairy
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posted April 18, 2008 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFairy     Edit/Delete Message
Who says you can't get pregnant? I'm not asking because of astrology I can't figure out my own chart. I was just curious.

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belgz
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posted April 18, 2008 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Well i just went to the doctors on monday outof curiosity why i have never fallen pregnant to my long term on/off boyfriend. I was almost 100% sure he was the problem but when we both did tests i went and got the results today and it turned out his sperm count was fine but i was producing a hormone called prolaction which was preventing me 90% from falling pregnant and i was shocked because i just wasnt expecting it. Now im kinda devastated and dont really believe it. I think somethings wrong i just dont think im infertile after all im a crab im made to have babies heheheh


Heres my ceres and lilith

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted April 18, 2008 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz,

Unfortunately I have to run to work, but never just take one doctors word for it and you should check with an Endocrinologist, they specialize in the endocrine system which controls your hormones. Another way to balance your hormones is through accupuncture. My accupuncturist has had more successes with couples who could not conceive. She has lost count many years ago. Yoko Ono and John Lennon went to an accupuncturist in San Francisco to help them have Sean Lennon after doctors told her that she couldn't have anymore children when she was 40 years old. He told them to change their diets and told John to stop drinking and doing drugs, at least for the time of conception, and they got pregnant, so please don't fret.

In your chart, the ruler of your 5th house is very stressed. Saturn rules your 5th house and it is conjunct Pluto which is a stressful aspect, but Pluto is about transformation through destruction for renewal. Destruction for Renewal. This may be a difficult project for you, but it can be done, do not give up, it's time to see some holistic health practitioners. Your story is not unique, but it can be if you begin some research and realize what tremendous resources are out there to help you.

Years ago, certain measurements would have been considered a death sentence as far as cancer and AIDS are concertned. They are no longer instant death sentences. I have friends now who have been living with AIDS for more than 20 years now. 30 Years ago, the measurements in their charts indicating the disease would have meant death, now it just means a challenge.

There's a famous DJ here in NYC who is 72 years old. He has been living with and managing cancer for the last 13 years and he lives an extremely active life.

My 5th house ruler is stressed also, I don't have children but it has nothing to do with me trying, I haven't been trying and I'm sure it will be quite an adventure when I do, so please, put down the astrology and start looking for holistic health practicioners or an endocrinologist who can explain why you are succreting this hormone and how you can get your body to reduce it. Western doctors will not tell you that it's possibly certain foods that you eat or meats being treated with hormones, etc. They act like they don't know, but something as simple as drinking cows milk processed with hormones, or even with out can cause problems. Please begin investigating these options. There are many people on this site who can direct you. We are all into some kind of alternative healing, not all of it is WAY OUT THERE, it's for you to investigate and research.

Don't fret, just begin the process.

Take good care,

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SilverFairy
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posted April 18, 2008 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFairy     Edit/Delete Message
Geocosmic Valentine is right. You need to see an Endo and they will help you figure out what you need to do in order to become pregnant. I personally have tried many different alternatives myself. I get frustrated dealing with doctors. I personally think if being a parent is what you really want, go to a doctor who can truly help you.

I'm a cancer sun. I have the mommy need i focus it on people and children around me. Except I get to give them back! haha Not the same but it helps the emotions dealing with not having my own children. I don't think being a cancer means you have to be a parent to biological children. But I'm sure that need fuels the want for us.

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venusdeindia
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posted April 18, 2008 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusdeindia     Edit/Delete Message
belg, can u do a sideral chart at astro.com and post it ?

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winky_winky
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posted April 18, 2008 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winky_winky     Edit/Delete Message

If u really believe astrology can provide a good answer for ur fertility problems then it might be a good idea to consult a prefessional, reliable astrologer.

Just commenting this because out of the top of my head i cant see any aspect/placement dictating infertility:
The moon is not in a barren sign, on the contrary is in Cancer, sign of motherhood
Venus, though, rules fertility not only the moon and it is in a barren sign, virgo sometimes is considered as barrenness.also quite afflicted...
Nor is pluto heavily conflicted, ruling as it does some of the organs that have to do with reproduction
Fifth house, house of children, in water: water signs are the most fruitful

As said, i dont see any real obvious signs but then again i am not an expert at all, u might want to have a good look at the person is fathering that child...

I read a real good article on that once, if i can retrieve from my table´s mess i will let u know...


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Lara
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posted April 18, 2008 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
lilith in 5th? Could this be a sign of infertility?

I know an empty 5th means nothing when it comes to kids.

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sd09
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posted April 18, 2008 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sd09     Edit/Delete Message
picter of ur self PLZ

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Belage
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posted April 18, 2008 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
The ruler of your Aquarius 5th house is also Uranus, and Uranus denotes unpredictability. I suspect that children will come to you in an untraditional way, an unexpected way.

Your natal Uranus is conjunct your natal Jupiter in the early degrees of Saggitarius, so the possibility of you having children is very strong. However, at the moment, transiting Saturn in the early degrees of Virgo is squaring your Uranus-Jupiter conjunction, and thus it seems to deny you the possibility of children. It's only temporary. But listen to Saturn, it's trying to tell you that right now is NOT the right time for you to have children. You need to put your affairs in order first. Your affairs may be on the financial, emotional, health levels.

Do the Saturnian thing, and when Saturn moves out of this aspect, the possibility of children will be there again. In fact, Jupiter will be in Aquarius next year, so I would expect you to get pregnant at this time.

Yes, you may have to help your body with unconventional fertility methods. GeoCosmic mentioned acupuncture... Consider looking into your diet and seeing what it is that makes your body produce too much prolactin. Talk to naturopaths and herbalists.

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Belage
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posted April 18, 2008 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
I edited my previous post.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted April 18, 2008 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Belage,

Her 5th house cusp is Capricorn with the ruler as Saturn. But it's interesting that the timing is almost the same for another positive for her. Jupiter will enter her 5th house at some point this year, I don't have access to an emphemeris at the moment, but that might be a fantastic time for her to try, especially when Jupiter gets to 27 degrees Capricorn because it will be squaring her Saturn, the 5th house ruler. I also like the feeling of Jupiter when it transits Aquarius. It's wild and wacky and kind of lucky. And when Jupiter reaches 5 degrees Aquarius in her 5th house, it will be sextiling her natal Uranus, bestowing even more "lucky energy". This could be suggesting that she is definitely taking actions toward doing some healthy things to help herself become pregnant.

I also like that Chiron is transiting her 5th house, he is the wounded healer suggesting that there is a health issue that can be healed with some life style changes.

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Belage
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posted April 18, 2008 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
You're right, GeoCosmic, I took another look, and Capricorn, not Aquarius is on the cusp of her 5th house, therefore the ruler is Saturn, not Aqua.

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mblover
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posted April 18, 2008 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
I am somewhat pressured to see a Cancer woman finding this type of news at such an early age. I will look into your chart. Somehow my instincts tell me that you have two children.

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belgz
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posted April 18, 2008 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Well i am going to see a specialist today and hopefully they will be able to tell me something positive. I think i did a sidereal chart im not sure how to do one.

Since yesterday i have been looking at my 5th house for hours i dont see whats wrong with it. My saturn is making good aspects to my moon and every other planet but just a conjunction to pluto. Pluto cant surely donimate all them planets and override it. MY aunty has lilith in 5th and she has 4 kids and twins.

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writesomething
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posted April 18, 2008 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
I hope you dont take what they say seriously. a bunch of BS, if you ask me. i believe you will have children. its funny how some women are told by their doctors they wont have kids, and they end up pregnant. dont believe everything you hear.

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bvanzy
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posted April 18, 2008 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bvanzy     Edit/Delete Message
The only thing I can see is that your Moon conjuncts your North Node, so it will be extra-specially important to you to have children.

Good luck with your appointment, and as someone above said, transits could help with identifying times you have extra-fertile times.

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blue moon
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posted April 19, 2008 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
If you were told this was 90% stopping you conceiving, that doesn't translate to me that you were told you could never have children.

There's still a 10% chance by logic. More than that if there is some treatment on offer. Adding to which you are still relatively young (in reproductive cycle terms). It's all in your favour.

In traditional astrology Capricorn is seen as one of the less fertile signs. It's ruler, Saturn, is near the end of its sign, Libra. That's not great, BUT it makes an applying aspect to the Moon before it leaves its sign so this is positive. Lilith is in the 5th, which is sometimes associated with problems having children. That's not telling you anything you don't know already ~ it doesn't mean you won't ever have children, just it is likely to take longer than average.

One thing is sure, worrying about it won't help, maybe the reverse. So often women have trouble conceiving, then something happens and they stop stressing about it ~ a holiday, a birthday celebration (!) or they've finally gone and got an appointment to see a fertility specialist. I'm not making it up - there are examples of two such children in my extended family.

Put down the charts if they aren't helping you. Doctors rarely give cast-iron proclamations that something is or isn't going to happen, and astrologers are no different. Book a holiday where you can forget all about it. It will do you more good.

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milyi
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posted April 19, 2008 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for milyi     Edit/Delete Message
belgz you will have children one way or another.check out asteroid child it is close to your north node.you may have children of your own,you may adopt,you may work with children,whatever, it will happen.I am born six days after you ,we have almost the same aspects . I am surrounded with children and I don't even like them that much

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