posted April 20, 2008 03:17 AM         

Everything I read about Scorpios descibes them as very passionate and sexual, especially if they have Scorpio in MARS, which this guy does.

The strange thing is, when I was talking to him, he says he is rather shy and actually prudish, and lost his virginity at 29 yrs old, and has only had sex 5 times in his life. He is 31 now.

He was a perfect gentleman the first half of the date, then as soon as he had a few drinks him in, he became Mr. Octopus arms, groping me and trying to get into my pants. He was so sexually aggressive and forward that I practically had to beat him away with a stick. (not literally of course)

After this incident and by looking at all the Scorpio, and considering how good looking and what a great personality he has, I find it almost impossible to believe he has only had sex 5 times in the past 2 years. He also says he hasn't slept with anyone the past year. I'm starting to believe he was deliberately lying to me, to make himself sound less of a "player".

I don't know his time of birth, but below is his birth information. Can anyone give any input on his natal info. Does it seem to accurately reflect how he describes himself as...prudish? Or is he just a liar?

A Scorpio Prude???? Can it exist?

October 30, 1976

posted April 20, 2008 08:37 AM         

I can draw parallels between my own experiences and personality, with virtually every one of my oldest and closest friends and acquaintances of the opinion that I am very prudish, conservative, old fashioned, not to mention repressed, sexually. That being said, I do admit that I can be wild in the sense that I do not care for the rules, and norms in a given setting, and be all over the place should the insanity arise. Contradictory isnt it?

posted April 20, 2008 08:55 AM         

I'm not sure about whether this guy is really a prude though. We were on our first date and he was practically begging me to go home with him, and was not "shy" about saying it was because he wanted to have sex.

And what about that Venus in Sagittarius? Isn't that the position that will usually do or say anything to get what he wants? Loves the chase? I don't really trust Sag's.

I must admit, there is something so magnetic and attractive about Scorpios. They are almost irresistable! I ALMOST took him up on that offer...and I am the true prude. Instead I got myself in a cab, and told him to drive and fast as possible! LOL.

posted April 20, 2008 11:55 AM         

However, with this guy... Yes, he very well could be lying to you (although, I don't know many Scorpios who like to lie), but you also have to consider the alternatives, ESPECIALLY because he claims that he didn't lose his virginity until he was 29. (Most guys would NEVER admit something like that).

Just because he's good looking and magnetic doesn't mean that he is or has always been socially adept. Case in point... Last week I was a bridesmaid in my friend's wedding, and as such, I was garnering a lot of attention. There was one guy there, a Taurus, who, while he was not bad looking or a bad guy in any sense of the word, is completely COMPLETELY clueless when it comes to women... And he had his eye on me. When his friends talked about him, women and men alike, they said he was the most wonderful guy, but his dates and romantic pursuits were utter failures. I could see why... When I came up to our group of friends to chat, out of nowhere, he threw his tie around my neck and pulled me closer to him. It was awkward to say the least, and then it was made even more awkward by my best Aquarian friend when he said: "This is when you take her clothes off." lol. I about smacked him.

In any case, my point is this... If the guy is telling the truth, there very well may be a reason he didn't have sex until that late in life. Maybe, even if he was good looking, he didn't understand how to relate to women properly, and if every woman who went on a date with him reacted the way you did, and bolted when he started up the gropety grope on the first date, it's probable he wouldn't have had sex until later.

Also, you'd be surprised how many very good looking people are completely insecure about themselves. This is part of what makes them so socially inept when it comes to the opposite sex. They may not have the guts to ask a person out or they may be so nervous and self-conscious about themselves they end up coming off like a total doof on a date.

Maybe this guy has finally learned a thing or two and his using his Scorpio charm to his advantage, but is still a bit awkward and unaware of how he is coming off to others.

Just my two cents... Hope it helps. Not every Scorpio is going to be a sexpot, just like not every Virgo is going to be a saint.

posted April 20, 2008 01:17 PM         

I would say that those who have not gotten far with me would call me a prude, but those who have wouldn't dare call me a prude.

posted April 20, 2008 05:15 PM         

He seemed so confident, and normal but after a few drinks he totally lost control, and was practically banging on my cab window begging me to stay with him. I'm making it sound awful, but it was actually a bit humorous. We were both laughing about it, so he knew he was being a bit ridiculous. I still like him. Go figure. Maybe it's our Sun opposition Venus double whammy in synastry, that makes me still like him after such a gross display of manners.

posted April 20, 2008 06:24 PM         

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted April 20, 2008 07:19 PM         

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted April 21, 2008 01:58 AM         

The sad part is that none will be able to solve the puzzle completely because both have an ability to continue to play. Watch how Superfical Scorpio becomes when he is around Gemini.

But, One day Scorp will be Possessive and Demanding. One day he will make a Cutting blunt remark. And, on that day, The Gemini will fly. End of story!

Until then, it's an adventurous ride both loves. Also notice that Gemini will leave somewhat amazed because very few Signs have actually been able to understand the 'True Messenger' behind their poetic trickery languages. But, Scorpio will try hardest. He will realize there is some duality here. Scorpio will be left somewhat amused and somewhat disappointed in the end when he will realize how he acted as a Gemini with his Mask, yet somehow he didn't find any depth and couldn't solve the puzzle.

posted April 21, 2008 09:33 AM         

The Gemini behavior you described was exactly me a few years back. But I feel I have grown quite a bit, and don't search for games or stimulation anymore as much as sincerity and goodness in a person. The game playing is what I want to avoid. I saw in him (before he got drunk) a sincere person. We spoke about our families, and jobs, and what we hope to contribute back to this world someday. He seemed like a "good" guy. We laughed and had a lot of fun.

When he told me at first he was a prude, I believed him because he seemed shy, and quiet. But when he became Mr. Gropety Grope and turned on all the false compliments was when I started to see him as an insincere player.

Maybe it's because I have so much Taurus in me (Venus and Mars) that I want some solidity and depth as well in a person. I want someone who defines himself by his values, and morals and not superficial things like his income or job, which is a lot of the guys in New York City.

Thanks so much for your input. If this guy does try to play a game with me, I am out.

posted April 22, 2008 12:17 AM         

I have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio.
I am prudish. I didn't have sex until I was 22 years old. It was mainly because I was in the US Navy. In the navy, it was like to be a man,you get drunk and get laid. I try to be like them. Even then,I didn't sleep around much.

I prefer to sex as making love. I want to make love to her.

I am a person who is very intense,passionate which is hidden behind a reserved,shy exterior. I am very sexual when behind closed doors. I show all of me in private...all my intensity,passion.

A lot of Scorpios are private and reserved people. I am definitely one of them.

My Sun in Scorpio quincunxes Saturn
My Mercury in Scorpio contraparallels Saturn
My Venus in Scorpio contraparallels Saturn
My Pluto trines Saturn.

that could indicate the sexual reserve.

I also have a Virgo Ascendant,and I some even think that I am a Virgo. I even have asteroid,Galahad only 10 minutes square my Ascendant. Galahad was the perfect knight who achieved the quest of the Holy Grail. He was pure in that he was a virgin knight.

btw...I am very liberal, and so just because I am prudish doesn't mean that I am conservative.

I had problems getting into relationships because of my insecurites about my special education experiences and not knowing about my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. My problems with speech and coordination that make me awkward in socializing...especially when I shake and kinda stutter when I am talking to somebody that I am attracted to. I didn't want to be rejected for being "special" I didn't want to be looked down upon. I also had issues with dealing with my multiethnic background. It was really a big problem in high school. I grew up feeling that I was unattractive...even ugly.

Please don't judge people by their charts.

I stress this so much as an Astrologer.

another thing.....my birthday is October 29th. so my birthday is 1 day before his.

guess what

The Sun is actually in the Constellation of Virgo on October 29th and 30th
I am not talking about Sidereal Zodiac either. I am talking about the actual unequal 13 constellations on the ecliptic.

so maybe as constellation Virgos Suns,we are prudish.
I do believe that the constellations have an influence and not just the tropical zodiac signs.

posted April 22, 2008 08:34 PM         

I guess everyone has done one stupid thing or something out of character when they are drunk...I know I definitely have. So I won't judge him on that 1 date.

It's strange cause if any other guy groped and slobbered all over me, i would be soooo grossed out, and never even want to think about him ever again. But with him, I think about him....a lot. If he calls me, I will definitely go out with him again.

Thanks everyone for the insight, and for sharing your personal experiences.

posted April 23, 2008 08:36 PM         

So, is a person's siderial zodiac sign more true to their outer personality or inner emotions? How does this energy affect them?

How do you calculate this sign?

posted April 25, 2008 10:36 PM         

Our first date, he was all over me, telling me how perfect and wonderful I am. The day after, he calls me twice and text messages me. When I don't call him back, he leaves a message on my voicemail asking if I could please call him or text him back just to let him know if I'm still alive and didn't die of alcohol poisening? What normal person leaves that kind of message???

So I decide to give him another chance...and text message him back. What do I get.....nothing! No response the whole day. Then when he does respond,I get back a very curt, almost cold reply. I'm so confused. How is someone so hot and cold, such opposite extremes? I don't think I will ever understand him. I'm not pursuing this anymore, although I did like him, despite all his inappropriate behavior.

I guess he's just not that into me....which makes me mad, cause aren't I the one who shouldn't be into him? Darn, why does he have to give off such attractive, magnetic energy!

If this was ever a game, I guess I lose.

posted April 26, 2008 09:38 AM         

Although nobody can know for sure, I tend to agree that he's trying to play you now, only to satisfy his need to be in control and see how much YOU'LL chase HIM. He's probably kicking himself for the drunken display, and wants you to know that it was a one time thing and he's still JOE COOL.

If I had to bet, I would say he got your text back immediately, smiled to himself, and thought, now how long should I go before I answer this.

Listen, I had something very similar happen with a Scorp guy. When he wanted to, he answered e-mails 30 seconds after reading them. Boom, boom. The responses were witty and long. When he wanted to play games, he would wait about 6 hours to do so and then the reply would be two words. Curt. And I knew he was getting the e-mails right away and sitting on them. I'm a Scorp, too. I had figured out his habits.

In the end, it meant nothing, all this game playing. He was into me, period. I saw through his games and never called him on them. I batted my eyelashes and smiled. And played my own games. It can be fun.

Triple G, if you cannot stomach games in the beginning, then just chalk this up to one good night and go your own merry way and find yourself another guy who's simple. Scorps do not have it in them to be simple. There's mystery, there's drama. There WILL be games with a Scorp guy in the beginning, and the beginning can be a year or two, if you're leading up to a major Relationship. The games will include testing your loyalty and maybe testing your reactions to make sure you're not an undercover psycho-beeyotch.

posted April 27, 2008 01:28 AM         

All his buddies and girls he dates are graduates from Harvard, or Yale or some rich, high class society type school.

I even remember him asking me on our date if I planned on going to graduate school, as if I should be ashamed or something that I only graduated college. I went to an Art and Design college and that is what field I'm in. He thought I was beneath him, because I'm an artist, and not a lawyer or doctor.

Wow, I was so shocked. It really hurt more than anything else because he has made me feel like he is better than me just because he is some big shot lawyer and that is praised, and me I'm just a lowly artist. I worked very hard in school and did very well, but wanted to go into design. I guess people automatically associate the art field with being stupid.

He felt I wasn't up to par, so instead he just tried to sleep with me. I have never had anyone make me feel so low.

I felt so hurt by this that I actually cried.
I didn't even know exactly what I was crying about, but the fact that he dismissed me for something as superficial as my education, and class level really hurts. My parents came here as immigrants and worked for 31 years straight 6 days a week, with no vacations, so that I could go to a good school, and make a good life for myself, and by him saying that life is not good enough is almost an insult to all the hard work and sacrifices my parents have put in. Who the hell is he to say what is good enough! Insult me...fine, I don't care. But don't disrespect my parents. I'm furious at him, that I just want to shake him and tell him that who you really are has nothing to do with income, or status, or being perfect on paper. He is measuring his worth by superficial things that will all be gone someday, cause you can't take that with you when you leave this world. It means nothing.

It's horrible to feel judged, and be dismissed based on something so superficial.
How has this guy managed to hurt me so much, when we've only been on one date? Why do I care so much what he thinks of me?

I can usually brush people off and not think about it again, but I can't seem to let this one go. I want to tell him he's a narrow minded jerk, and he should look inside and see what he really is.

Anyways, sorry for the rant. I had to let some of this anger out.

Thanks for listening, and for all the wonderful support you have all given me!