posted April 23, 2008 11:32 AM              

Here is my example: No water whatsover and an overwhelming amount of planets in AIR: you´d think that makes me extra intellectual, well i am fond of talking, chatting here and the rest but MOST OF ALL it makes me indecisive.......grrrrrrrrrr...

posted April 23, 2008 05:55 PM            

Had a very good friend (gone back home now) who was so deeply sensitive I wondered how he managed to get through the day. It's a good job you're thick, I said, with my inate Geminian tact and sensitivity. He agreed. No clue as to birthdata, but he's Cancer Sun.

No water planets on my chart but I have Scorpio on the ASC, Pisces on the IC and Moon CNJ Pluto, which balances things out a tad. I don't expect people to pander to my feelings but I should hope I manage to display some level of sensitivity towards others in my general existence. The latter should matter more than the former, but so often the scales don't seem to sit that way.

posted April 24, 2008 09:33 AM            

for example you lack water but what planets do you have in houses 4, 8, and 12?

this will compensate.

Out

posted April 24, 2008 09:47 AM            

I'm a Vulcan.

Ceres in the 8th though, conjoined the Sun on the cusp of the 7th/8th. Also Bob's theory works for me, see below ~ maybe because as well as two watery angles, I have Venus on the Descendant Square Mars. A little less feeling would have helped me move through life with less incident, but it would have been so much more dull.

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm

What happens when you count all the planets in each element and one type is missing? Some astrologers claim that you are missing whatever it is that the particular element rules. For instance, if you have no planets in water signs in your horoscope, they would say that you can’t express emotions (some even say that you have no emotions!). If you have no planets in earth signs, they would tell you that you are impractical. And if you have no planets in Air Signs, you are not supposed to communicate too well or do much writing.

Well Bill Gates, world’s richest man and the founder of Microsoft, has no planets in Earth Signs. Impractical? Not worldly? What are those superficial interpretations missing? If a sign that belongs to that missing element happens to sit on one of the Angles of your horoscope (the Ascendant, Mid-Heaven, Descendant, or Nadir) you can make up for that deficit big time. Gates’ horoscope, the Earth Sign Capricorn, appears on the Descendant. Capricorn specifically rules organizational ability, efficiency, and persistence. It is said that Gates thinks that taking a vacation is a sign of weakness and that time off for him means time to catch up on his reading.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton has no planets in Earth signs either, and no Earth signs on any of the angles. Well, the national health plan she came up with was a little impractical.

When an element is missing in a horoscope, it may mean that certain traits are weak. But it may also mean that the person just doesn’t consider them important. Sometimes this could lead to overcompensation. The person knows that there is a weakness and tries to overcome it. For instance, lack of planets in Earth Signs could just mean the ideals are so high that they may never be capable of being realized on Earth. Or that there is a lack of concern with practical, day-to-day matters.

As for the other missing elements and qualities:

Lack of Fire Signs can mean lack of assertiveness or the person may overcompensate by trying to appear super macho. J. Edgar Hoover had no planets in fire signs and he seemed aggressive enough, at least when he wasn’t wearing a dress. He had Aries on his Nadir to increase activity.

Lack of Air Signs occurs in the horoscope of the Rev. Jim Jones. He had the Air sign Libra on his Mid-Heaven which increased his "charm". His led his followers into mass suicide in Guyana. Actor Sal Mineo had no air whatsoever and he made his living communicating. What lack of air really means is a dislike of "small talk". Every word has to be significant.

Lack of Water Signs is not necessarily lack of emotion. Muhammed Ali has no water planets but the Water sign Scorpio is on his Nadir giving intense emotions. Mick Jagger, on the other hand, has no water whatsoever. He has been accused of being indifferent to the emotions of his wives.

posted April 24, 2008 11:55 AM              

i also have mercury in 4th so my home is important 4 me i just bought a house and feel very strong about it.......

12th is emptly though but ruled by scorpio, anyhow many planets in the 7th house...

posted April 24, 2008 05:11 PM            

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I suppose, I have too much water and earth in my chart and not so much fire and air. It could be a nice chart fir a girl, but I'm a guy.
Sun in Water in Earth house, Moon in Earth in Water house and Rising in Earth sign.

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But you have that amazing mercury trine uranus. That would add a lot to developing air in your chart.

posted April 24, 2008 05:13 PM            

I have sun/merc opposed saturn. My sun/merc are in the 10th house and MC is Cap. I have my SN in tau/2nd and pluto in the 6th. I also have an air-fire mystic rectangle.

I am really grateful for these little tidbits. I think they do provide some balance to me. I also hear that a lack of one element may actually lead to a person developing those missing traits. Eg, in my case a lack of earth makes me overly organised and structured.

I also used to have prog venus/merc in cap but unfortunately have lost those now.

posted April 25, 2008 06:31 PM            

That's the upside of having an excess of an element in my chart.

The downside is that I only have one planet in air and water each (although I have water rising and NN and Chiron in air which helps slightly). For some reason I don't feel like I miss the air element much, but I feel like I could use a little more sensitivity, so water would definitely help.

posted October 11, 2008 09:58 PM              

The same is true in different ways for Taurus and Aquarius: both are stubborn and self-confident but not renowned for their warmth.