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Topic: Why are men only interested in me for......
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triplecancer Knowflake Posts: 148 From: Registered: Jul 2006
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posted April 25, 2008 10:50 PM
Why are they only interested in a physical approach? It never goes beyond that. It's as if everything else about me is not worth it for them. This makes me very sad, I feel like I'll never be in a real relationship because I'm not appreciated. Can you see anything in my chart? A reason for this? Thank you. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted April 26, 2008 01:22 AM
I think its the venus trine pluto aspect in your chart (which you should be proud of). Also venus in gem/11th must make you a natural flirt. I'm sure that prominent mars - anarectic, 10th house and in taurus (physical, senses) has something to do with it as well. Also 5th house ruler, jupiter is in the first in leo, this might make you appear a bit showy. also ruler of the 8th in the 5th.As for relationships, it you shouldn't have problems. Your 5th house ruler (jupiter) and 7th house ruler (saturn) are in ok shape and aren't badly aspected to each other. I don't want to sound as if I am scaring you, but your saturn is also conj NN which might indicate some importance for having a relationship and you might be going through your saturn now or sometime soon (not sure where saturn is at the moment).
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luv and light Knowflake Posts: 49 From: L.A. CA USA Registered: Apr 2008
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posted April 26, 2008 04:41 AM
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cancerrg Knowflake Posts: 2819 From: Registered: Dec 2004
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posted April 26, 2008 04:56 AM
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triplecancer Knowflake Posts: 148 From: Registered: Jul 2006
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posted April 26, 2008 10:38 AM
Thank you 23. But the ruler of my 7th (saturn) is square venus. Could that be a reason for my difficulties in relationships? Forgive my ignorance, but I don't know what those codes mean. IP: Logged |
augentier Knowflake Posts: 893 From: KS Registered: Nov 2007
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posted April 26, 2008 02:10 PM
maybe it doesn't have to do with astrology? maybe you're just hot and boring?IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted April 26, 2008 04:36 PM
venus squ saturn might add some disappointment but don't let it get you down. No square aspect is going to be fatal in someone's chart. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 26, 2008 04:54 PM
It could be possibly that your sun, moon and ascendant are all in Cancer and your sun and Moon in 12th house. You are probably quite vulnerable in ways and your natal sun, identity and personality doesn't get to shine through because it is being receptive and internally aware. This means you are Super feminine but this is all reflective. Your basic energies are aimed at mirroring people... It could be that you are attracting the wrong kind of guy who sees something in you that he doesn't want to see after first impressions(but this being only his own reflection). You respond then by picking up on what you FEEL you should be saying or doing instead of expressing yourself. Also Neptune in your 5th house makes your self expression diffuse and it's hard for others to know what you are communicating from your self expression. You could try to develop your Venus in Gemini flirtatious side and back it up with a judgement of when to stop and say no and when to say yes again. Start getting assertive and throwing your girl power weight around. Maybe you are also coming across as too shy?IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20 Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Aug 2006
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posted April 26, 2008 06:48 PM
Triplecancer when I read this it was like you were reading my mind. I have the EXACT same dilema as you with guys...they always want to have physical relationships but never love relationships...and guess what I am...a cancer sun/asc with mars in cancer...and my venus is in taurus, in the 11th house as well...so we have quite a bit in common.
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Vintry Knowflake Posts: 318 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2006
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posted April 26, 2008 07:36 PM
Hello, triplecancerI think the problem you described has to do with your sensitivity and insecurity. You must be extremely sensitive with both Sun and MOON in the 12th house. And I don't know how close that Moon is to Ascendant but I think it makes a conjunction. So both your Mercury and Moon conjunct Asc. This probably makes you talk talk talk, and maybe too much sometimes. So it is possible that you give too much away, like an open book + your sensitivity is SO obvious to men I think. Other aspects: Venus opposite Neptune - more sensitivity, dreams, illusions; Venus square Saturn - insecurity. I picture the following. You are in a bar. A guy comes up to you. Tries to make a conversation with you. Asks you a question. You give an answer, then an answer to a question that haven't been asked yet. Then YOU lead the conversation. And he is observing you. And in his mind he thinks you're trying too hard because you're insecure, and you're very emotional = needy (doesn't like that), and basically that he's got to go any time now. I'm sorry if this sounds too harsh and I truly hope that that the problem is something other than what I've described. Let me know! IP: Logged |
stillatlarge Knowflake Posts: 609 From: TX. USA Registered: Apr 2007
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posted April 26, 2008 07:47 PM
This is something that will probably fade with time and experience. I used to have the same problem and it is that sensitivity that's scaring them off. It's not that way anymore. Once you get more comfortable with men and yourself it won't be so strong.IP: Logged |
swirl-kitt Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted April 26, 2008 08:29 PM
I really think that you are just observing what happens to most women.It's usually that if 10 men will be interested in a woman for only physical reasons, only 1 will have more serious intentions. It's like, you could find a guy to have a casual rltnship with any time, but for something more genuine sometimes people have to wait for months or years. I guess with lots of Cancer, you WANT to believe that their attention is not superficial and since you are more romantic/emotional this upsets you more than less emotional women. I don't think there is anything wrong with you. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 9145 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 26, 2008 09:04 PM
I'm sorry you're having trouble, triplecancer.I hope you find what you're looking for. You have a very beautiful chart. IP: Logged |
triplecancer Knowflake Posts: 148 From: Registered: Jul 2006
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posted April 26, 2008 10:02 PM
Thanks everyone, that was really helpful. Well, I am shy, but not too shy. I am very sensitive and insecure and I know men perceive the sensitivity quite well, and yes, I guess that scares them, especially those emocionally immature. As for the talking, I'm quiet but I talk, but not too much (although I have my verbal moments). People can perceive my sensitivity without me saying a word, it's as if I just emanate it. In a way I think men find it interesting or fascinating at first, but then they run like hell! I also think it's true that the neptune in the 5th makes my self expression diffuse and confusing. It's not easy for me to express myself clearly. As for the "hot and boring".... well, I'm attractive but not in a hot mamma kinda way, and I don't consider myself boring, I actually think I'm a fun person. But maybe others just see me as boring (I sure hope not!!). It's also kind of a relief to know that other women feel the same as I do and that I'm not the only one going through this. IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 351 From: not home Registered: Apr 2008
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posted April 26, 2008 10:22 PM
don't let you get to "you may be boring" thing! everyone is boring to some people and everyone find some people exciting. we are all different! and they are different!me, for instance, find people who "normal people" find dirty and trashy super attractive. and people who i find "boring" are the nice and sensible people in a general sense. it's just the combination of who we meet who. you are a respectable person of your own. and there are people in the world who need you type. it really doesn't matter! i'm sorry about your problem, but in a different degree, i think all of us have the same problem with not getting exactly what we want. i wish more trashy and dirty bum types liked me for instance. ha ha ha... ugh. look up! you are an attractive sweet person! you'll some day find your place at the right place if you keep searching, i assure you (as a person who has that experience). my belief is that no matter how long it takes, life rewards you with what you wished for in the first place if you stay optimistic! IP: Logged |
CoralFrequency Knowflake Posts: 1432 From: Registered: Feb 2007
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posted April 26, 2008 11:06 PM
I think it's true that you teach people how to treat you. Know who you are! Know what you want! Ask for it and don't take anything less!I don't mean for the above to sound egocentric. It's important to GIVE and I would also GIVE double measure in return.. but it is a two way street. So if you give and the other person takes without reciprocating – you need to put your foot way down and say *enough* - EXIT is thata way! Why are you doing anything physical with these men, in the first place? You need to set some rules. They'll understand, trust me. But you can't be that nice (like being with them because - you feel sorry for them or their puppy ran away from home last night or they need a confidence boost) You have to be at least a little rough. With all that Cancer this won't come naturally. Force yourself to be rougher. They can take it. Another thing – you're trying to impress them? PUT THE BALL IN THEIR COURT. They should also be trying to impress YOU! If you are completely non-critical and accept everything and everyone.. can you see how this tilts the balance in a relationship? IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 9145 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 28, 2008 10:14 AM
What sort of men have you been dating? I think there must be great guys out there, who could appreciate you for much more than just sex. Maybe you just have to be open to meeting them?
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 9145 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 28, 2008 10:21 AM
"True love will find you in the end" by Daniel Johnston True love will find you in the end You'll find out just who was your friend Don’t be sad, I know you will, But don’t give up until True love will find you in the end.
This is a promise with a catch Only if you're looking will it find you ‘Cause true love is searching too But how can it recognize you Unless you step out into the light, the light? Don’t be sad, I know you will, But don’t give up until True love will find you in the end. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sch9FGd4HHc IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 28, 2008 12:42 PM
HSC is right ~ there are decent guys out there and one is waiting for you ~ it is just a question of timing.I like the lyrics to that song. IP: Logged |
Green Fairy Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: Registered: Feb 2006
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posted April 28, 2008 02:11 PM
I've got Cancer Sun/Moon and Gem Venus but i'm almost the complete opposite. If i can't have a meaningful relationship with someone [more than just sex], i beter not have anything at all. Reconsider your friendships and the people you hang out with. Don't you worry though, there are 'good' guys out there for you and for every other woman with similar needs.IP: Logged |
triplecancer Knowflake Posts: 148 From: Registered: Jul 2006
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posted April 28, 2008 07:55 PM
HSC, thanks for the song. I really liked it. I know there are good guys out there, but since I'm feeling so down lately,all I can think is that those good guys don't want to get to know me. I know, I have to stop thinking like that, otherwise nothing will change. Thanks everyone for everything you wrote, it was helpful.IP: Logged |
sd09 Knowflake Posts: 1045 From: canada Registered: Oct 2004
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posted April 28, 2008 08:32 PM
Yeah i understand ,fine women boring need for sex onlyIP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 2000 From: Registered: Nov 2006
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posted April 29, 2008 02:06 AM
I've gotta second swirl-kitt...men are only interested in you for sex b/c nine times out of ten, men are only interested in sex. And she also covered why that realization of their intentions hurts you...b/c as a Cancer, you'd like to believe that there's an emotional connection, too. Sensitive people want to connect with others at a deeper level than just the physical, and it can be depressing when you realize that many other people have no interest in going deeper. (Deeper emotionally, I mean. )And CF made excellent points. If you're already dealing with a world where many guys just wanna get laid and are looking for someone to satisfy that for them, you have to put up some boundaries and send out some clear signals that that's not your thing, or they'll see you as being that since they so desperately want a woman who will be just that. If you're too nice and let someone else shape you to serve their needs, many will take advantage of that and not give a thought as to what your needs are. And with your Sun and Moon in your 12th, you may be very aware of who you are and what you want, but others don't see that part of you. So you have to make a conscious effort to communicate who you are with words. Don't expect your body language or actions to be sufficient in clearly expressing your identity, as tempting as that type of nonverbal communication may be for you (Merc sextile Mars). The guys who only want sex will move along when they realize that alone won't satisfy you. Let them know that casual sex isn't your style. Some men will enjoy the challenge of learning what it is that you do want, and providing you with that. They'll take pride in going from just some guy to you to someone who you find sexy. Setting boundaries can be very sexy. If you're good humored about your needs and preferences, men who see themselves in who you want will be excited in showing you that side of themselves. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 9145 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 30, 2008 06:13 PM
Good points, jane. I notice you usually have good things to say. triplecancer,
Are you in the U.S.? If you feel adventurous, maybe you could write to me, and we'll see what we have in common? Your Moon trines my Sun/Venus, and your Asc opposes my Asc... so it might be worth a gamble.
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 9145 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 30, 2008 09:04 PM
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