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Topic: Austria and its bizaare stuff
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23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted April 27, 2008 07:17 PM
Would you take 15 May as Austria's birthdate? http://www.astrologyweekly.com/countries/austria.php Second Republic - Austria May 15, 1955, 11:27 am CET, Vienna The Austrian State Treaty was signed on May 15, 1955. Upon the termination of allied occupation, Austria was proclaimed a neutral country, and "everlasting" neutrality was incorporated into the Constitution on October 26, 1955. National Day: 26 October 1955. Personality: Joerg Haider - Jan 26, 1950, 2:25 pm CET, Bad Goisern, Austria (13e37, 47n38) ------ Seems there's some bizaare stuff coming out from there. I read that a lady has been imprisoned by her father for 24 years and has had 7 kids by him, the 2 eldest imprisoned with her! And apparently this is the third such case in Austria. If that is the time, pluto is just sitting behind that asc.... IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 28, 2008 07:57 AM
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blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 28, 2008 07:59 AM
Have just been talking about this case, the person in question didn't mince his words. "Filth" is the only repeatable one (in reference to the incestuous father). Transiting Neptune Opposite Pluto, Square the Sun. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted April 28, 2008 03:33 PM
I'm sure the prog sun conj ura has something to do with it as well. Uranus closing in on the prog MC. Austria also has sun squ pluto - very explosive, hidden, suspicious quality about it, see how pluto is hidden, just under the surface; yet it tries to project itself as a grand (leo ac) and beautiful country (libra ac prog). Also note that the moon is in a t-square too with these planets (sun, pluto).I wonder how t-saturn in the 1st plays out?
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23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 02, 2008 12:15 AM
It brings tears to my eyes to think what that monster did. May he rot in hell.He was born on 7 April 1935 (time unknown): Sun -18 deg aries, Moon - gem/can, Merc - 0 deg aries, venus 21 deg tau, mars -15 deg libra, jup - 21 deg sco, saturn - 6 deg pisces, ura - 0 deg ura, nep 12 deg vir, plu 23 deg can, NN 27 deg cap, chiron 6 deg gem Aspects: sun opp mars, sun squ pluto, venus opp jup, jup trine pluto IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted May 02, 2008 02:14 AM
Elisabeth's chart ~ I wonder what that looks like. To lose a child, have others taken away, that is bad enough but the rest ~ and she did her best to raise the ones that were left as well she could. What a remarkable person. She must have a strong Ceres. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Bay Area, California, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted May 02, 2008 02:20 AM
That case made me so angry.IP: Logged |
Lana29865 Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Mar 2007
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posted May 02, 2008 02:42 AM
To gain more knowledge of how/why some people can commit such crimes, google 'psychopaths'.Also worth checking is an article by Nikola Stojanovic at http://www.astrologyinserbia.com/e/index.html It is titled "The Secret of evil lies at the 18th degree of the Zodiac" J. Fritzl's sun is at that degree. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 02, 2008 05:18 AM
Erm, my NN is 18 deg Sco. YIKESIP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Bay Area, California, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted May 02, 2008 11:35 AM
Lana, thanks for the link. That Serbian astrology site is fascinating. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 06, 2008 04:03 AM
http://astropost.blogspot.com/2008/04/birth-charts-of-josef-fritzl-and.html It says Elisabeth was born 8 Apr 1966 Her details are from what we can gather: Sun aries 17, moon sco/libra, venus 1 pisces, merc 23 pisces, jupiter gem 25, saturn aries 23, ura 16 virgo rx, nep 21 sco, pluto 16 virgo rx, chiron 16 pisces, NN 25 tau, ceres - at UT 00:00 (not sure what time that is!) 00"20 tau Aspects - merc opp jup (maybe this gave her faith that she might be saved), wide conj between merc and chiron, unaspected venus, ura conj pluto, jup sex saturn, quincunx between sun-ura/pluto Note - NN is on ALGOL; saturn in fall, moon possibly in detriment. Ceres - hard to say, could be anarectic which may have given her the urge to protect her children. She is blessed by that conjunction between her sun and mars. Mars in its natural sign and sun exalted, it gave her the vitality. Mercury is conj saturn and chiron, this maybe would have allowed her to heal herself with her inner dialogue and to give her strength/structure to oppose the control (pluto) and eccentric conditions (ura). Or is it dad restricting thoughts (merc conj sat) Ceres - from "Mythic Astrology Applied" - generally associated with virgo, which is when the peak of the harvest occurs, but also with cancer (sign of food, family, mothering)....sun/moon in tau and cers on asc often make good cooks. Also mentions that ceres' daughter persephone is abducted by pluto when she is just a young maiden. From http://www.psychicfairs.com/PDF/Asteroid.pdf: Venus Sextile Ceres Orb: 01°28' Ceres forms a harmonious aspect with Venus. The mother-daughter (parent-child) story complements and is complemented by the pleasure principle (beauty, harmony, and the world of the senses). You associate nurturance with the cultivation of a sense of self-worth through affirmative touch and the affirmation of one's attractiveness. You nurture others (and look to nurturance yourself) through a loving acceptance of the sensual, the artistic and the creative. Your sexual expression may be very caring and tender. Love, relationships, and sexuality all benefit from your experience in handling the formation and severance of strong emotional ties.
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blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted May 06, 2008 05:03 AM
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evander Knowflake Posts: 195 From: east of eu Registered: Apr 2008
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posted May 06, 2008 07:23 AM
UT means unknown time. This thread makes me a little nauseas. horrible that people can do stuff like that to anyone ...my interest in this story comes down to algol, as blue moon directed me to the thread, ... i'm serbian so i'm not that enthusiastic about nikola stojanovic. i've sifted through one of his books at the library a few times. it's a little over the top for me [ or so i keep telling myself cause my moon is on 18th degree of cap and venus on 22degree of sco]... it's mostly way more black prophecies then the good ones. every degree i checked out had some pending catastrophe IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted May 06, 2008 08:29 AM
Well I hope the contents of the thread don't offend anyone. It's the Plutonic need to understand the dark side of life in action, though I know I will never get my head around this particular case. IP: Logged |
evander Knowflake Posts: 195 From: east of eu Registered: Apr 2008
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posted May 06, 2008 01:46 PM
im sure its not offensive. dark side of life is quite powerful. helps us see the good in ourselves . just hard to stomach this rather exhausting story reminded me of the John Wayne Gacy Jr story. Though it doesnt hv much connections.. no surprise there. he's got saturn and uranus close to algol http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4636/astro2gw03johnwaynegacyjx9.gif IP: Logged | |