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posted May 05, 2008 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
What would make a person bump into someone famous.

I was at a local coffee shop with my partner and got chatting to the two men that was sitting next to us in the shop (who were having lunch there). They asked us about voltage of electricity here and the 15 minute conversation started from there. I really enjoyed talking to them and after a discussion of what part of the UK they're from, they told us that they were members of a metal band that I have never heard of. Turns out that they are a quite well known metal band that have been going for 30 years and are quite well known in overseas and not so here. They told us to check out their website which I have since checked out and their wikipedia entry. Unfortunately we had to to turn down free tickets, they seemed like nice guys

Given that I bumped into someone famous in February in a mundane environment and now this, I'm really starting to get bewildered by this. I live in a part of the world that does not get famous people frequenting it a lot. I've never really bumped into famous people like this before.

I'd like to know what transits or aspects in a chart you'd think would create these occurrences. I do currently have my Jup transiting my MC, squaring n-jup (1st) /moon (7th)/pluto (6th) at the moment and I think that must have something to do with it.

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posted May 05, 2008 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
When jupiter was conj my MC, I met a few celebrities thru my job at the time...it was interesting.

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posted May 05, 2008 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Miss Libra     Edit/Delete Message
how weird! not weird in a bad way lol just pretty mundane. what band were they members of... if you dont mind sharing that is

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posted May 05, 2008 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Little Miss Libra - I'll be naughty and keep the identity of yesterdays people hush hush and will reveal it if I meet another famous person. I would say that you wouldn't know them though, they are primarily famous in Europe (more specifically Germany) and Japan.


Writesomething - thanks for that, it has to be that I guess. I am due to be overseas sometime and I must see what happens to me then. I will still be under that transit then.

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posted May 05, 2008 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I am curious. What do you say would happen if jupiter conj. one's IC?

23 - I think it's a sign.

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posted May 05, 2008 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved - do you mean transiting jup conj IC or natal jup conj IC?

Do you mean specifically me or everyone generally?

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posted May 05, 2008 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
What I mean is: metaphysically (this is a UC subject not astrology) it is impossible to be around a large number/ frequent number of people if you are not emitting a similar frequency of energy.

Off the top of my head, I'd say - get famous. Or, do you have a service you can provide to famous people?

Look at what you have in common with the people you meet, and look at what symbiotic relationship the two of you could have.

That's where I think you will find the answer to this blatant shout of the Universe.

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posted May 05, 2008 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I mean tJupiter conj nIC. Sorry about being unclear.

I mean You and me and people in general.

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posted May 05, 2008 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved - interesting theory

Well I think this is a contained phase at the moment. I think it has to do with the jup transit and when that goes, I will have a lull phase. It happened a few years ago when I had at the same time a double whammy jup-pluto transit and I was around some important/powerful people for work. Now I have t-jup squ pluto. I think also a lot of this has to do with the activation of my jup-pluto opposition I have natally (1st/6th). All the "famous" people I have met are either related to my work or their work. I don't think it I'm meant to be famous though, I don't really have the urge for it either; its more of a transit thing.

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posted May 05, 2008 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved - I think t-jupiter transiting IC means special moments in private situations, maybe a good time with family and close friends.

In regard to me, it would be a similar situation to what I am having now but in a very private setting or through close connections; again that jup-pluto opp would be activated in my chart if it was t-jup conj IC.

I hope you can understand why I had to differentiate when I asked those questions

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posted May 05, 2008 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Think about it. Not getting famous, but the significance because trust me, the eye seldom notices something it does not deeply desire. This means, we attract our deepest desires, and sometimes the things we attract seem very far from our desires but almost always, they lead us to our deepest desires.

Okay, I'll stop preaching.

All I am saying is that there are no coincidences. Trust me. I live by this. And when something has the force to repeat itself, I stop. Sometimes all you need is to stop.

years ago I had similar experiences. I ignored them until the Universe brought me the mother of wake up calls. Just because it was happening during a transit does not mean synchronism is not at work.

You will notice that all these esoteric arts work together like partners and none contradict the other. If you look closely, science, astrology, and philosophy can give the same answer.

Okay, now I stop preaching. And, I seldom feel inspired to speak like this, and I know that this means something. So...

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posted May 05, 2008 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, i understand why you asked.

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posted May 05, 2008 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
No Unmoved, I understand what you are saying. You are not preaching, maybe you are using a basic astro and science rule of "like attracts like", "birds of a feather flock together" and maybe you might see me this way based on what you have read. But to tell you the truth, I can't see myself as being famous (me??), don't think I'd really like it. And anyway I have a bruised MC.

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posted May 05, 2008 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I wasn't just speaking of fame. Providing a service of some sort. Do you design things, can you consult astrologically for people, or do you make a mean health snack that can be marketed...

Anywhoo... that's me. I always think like this. My friends are very successful, not famous but coining it from known people by planning parties (my Sag friend who is ultra social), by styling (my gay best friend II who can smell a bad outfit.)

How did they get into these jobs, they got signs, they ignored me for a coupla years, then got it later, made a success and are now feeling good.

I am not saying you're not feeling good. I'm saying meditate on it. You remind me of my friends (all of them), Stubborn as a mules!

But I could be wrong so... don't meditate upon it.

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posted May 05, 2008 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
I'll certainly think about what you said and keep it for later on (good advice) but I'm currently not in the position to think of my career at the moment, and yes, I am stubborn!

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posted May 05, 2008 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
23, Id take a guess that 11th house transits indicate the meeting of a famous person.
11th/Uranus/Aquarius type for people who are famous in some way. TV is 11th, with some other good reasons that I cant think of now.
Ive almost got that coming up soon, so will let you know if I meet any rockers.

Unmoved, what do you mean by "something has the force to repeat itself?"
I had a coincidence happen today. Seems a pretty good one too. Not going into detail.

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posted May 05, 2008 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Clever thinking Kick It! Never thought of it but its obvious now that you have mentioned it. Thank you.

I have nep transiting through my 11th and it has been there for about a year and half and it will be there a long time. Nep often I suppose associated with fame for the illusion aspects. But see below, t-NN is interesting:

* First time: t-sun conj t-NN (out of aspect) but both in my 11th, t-venus conj my sun/merc (but this was 10th) - still its a singer conjuncting my sun
* Second time: t-neptune (22Aqu8) conj t-NN (22Aqu5!) and both conj t-chiron. Again all in the 11th. t-sun conj n-SN/n-vertex.

Seems that the t-NN is the clincher here and its in the 11th. It will stay in my 11th until about early-July. I'll see what happens then, as it will conj t-chiron/t-nep in 11th.

PS Can you please tell us what in your chart would have led you to bump into somone famous (the incident that you won't reveal!)


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posted May 05, 2008 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
I wont reveal the incident, but it wasnt bumping into anyone famous. Bumping is a word though.
This last year has been pretty weird on the scale of things.

I would look to my 11th house ruler. Sagittarius on the 11th, therefore Jupiter aspects. Got a Ju/Ju trine coming up, but Ju retrogrades 1st just before it perfects in orb.

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posted May 05, 2008 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
Uranus transits. You said the conversation started over "voltage of electricity", which is very Uranian. Most likely, you won't see these celebrities again, typical Uranus behavior: Comes suddenly and unexpectedly, thrills us, then off it goes.

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posted May 05, 2008 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
To follow Kick It, I have uranus ruling my 11th which is in sco/7th and the apex to a terrible t-squ involving sun (aqu/10th) and saturn (can/4th).

So for incident 1: t-venus (widely) conj my sun/merc and t-venus squ my natal-ura; it wasn't really a great experience. Also sun was just in pisces which would have trined my natal ura but applying and 2 deg apart. At that stage t-ura was in my 11th and doing all the aspects I mention below (the t-square). Oddly enough, the shock (and horror) of it all occurred a few days later when the t-ura and natal sun trine was perfected.

Incident 2: all that stuff was happening on my SN/anti-vertex that I mentioned and it was lovely experience. T-ura was in my 12th with all the aspects mentioned below. However t-chiron/t-NN/t-nep (11th) are all trine my moon (in the 7th) and venus in 9th - hence pleasant experience one-on-one with foreign people. Also t-venus opp n-uranus. That was probably where the fame issue was coming in and it matches the first case.

Transiting ura is in my 12th at the moment, just (2 deg in). It has been making now a separating t-squ aspect to my natal mars (3rd)/nep (9th) now for years, t-ura is the apex. Also widely app opp to my n-juno. Juno doesn't really add much here.

Belage - oddly, uranus appears in the 7th house in the second experience chart - I laughed when I saw that and drew it up. If you're interested, I'll put both charts up.

Thanks for your help as well Belage. Kick It, keep me posted...thanks again. Still, the odds are freaky, thats what ura is all about I guess.

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posted May 05, 2008 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Kick It - it was nothing astrological at all.

I was speaking in terms of how the Universe, our soul, or our higher-self speak to us on a daily basis through symbols. The more urgent it is, the more force it exerts, making it manifest more powerfully into the material realm, either through your will or through the combined will of yourself and others.

Say your deepest desire is to be healthy, but you also desire being rich. The universe will fulfill your desires according to the priority you have set in your soul, higher-self etc. And life/universe will present opportunities for you to fulfill that desire by putting you in situations that lead to that desire being met, (or things that clarify your deepest desire, so that you can make it manifest into reality).

So, we have Joe who's been working on his career, and he desires a very successful career so that he can have the best health care service money can buy and to also have creature comforts- so he works hard. But he keeps on running into weirdo astrologers, or reiki practitioners, or weird tv shows that talk about ways of healing the soul etc. or some mumbo jumbo about cell reversal.

He wonders why he attracts these people, and if he stood still and listened, he would realize that his deepest desire is speaking to him, and it was not to have a good career that he desired, but a good quality of life, that being the reason why he is meeting people who heal the soul because that's where the body repair, health and general peace of mind begins.

Then he speaks to these people he meets, and finds out that stress is the biggest cause of sickness. Then finally he realizes that his job was the unhealthy bit of his life. He quits his job, and becomes less stressed.

But... now he is jobless, how is that helpful? How does he get the good life too? Well, he has more time to think now. Then he realizes once again that, his initial dream was not to become the media mogul he is today but to be an a person who creates ways to help the public through entertainment, because after standing still he was able to dig deep within to realize his true desires. Joe was not interested in the logistics, he was interested in being hands on with rendering a service to the world. he thought he could get this through advertising, but now he sees that there are other ways to do so without the stress.

You see, health goes hand in hand with joy, and by doing something that gives him joy, he gets his deepest desire of being a healthy body mind and soul through through something that gives him joy.

SO he uses his past experience in media and becomes a motivational speaker, or writes a book about media related things, instead of being in the industry itself.

Then he finds his true love. He has his own hours, he gives a service to the world and he is less stressed...

And because he is loving what he does, the world follows and loves what he does too. The world buys into it and he makes a killing. And like magic, he seems to have a successful career and health but without the stress.

But in order to get there, he had to stop and absorb the clues that life was giving him. And it all started with some little coincidence of meeting people he wouldn't likely meet.

You see, Joe thought that it was a corporate job that gave him security to be healthy, but it wasn't. It was love for his job, no matter what it was that gave him health and security.

Our thoughts are very powerful and they can manifest things into matter. When you see, feel, encounter or experience anything that excites you and makes you feel happy; it is your soul saying "Yes, you're on the right track because that's where you need to go." Thoughts are deep and sometimes unfelt but are always there, and the things that we think of the most are usually the things that we attract to us. The more bizarre the coincidence, the more it stands out, the more it wants you to see something important.

If you encounter something that you can't ignore, it means the thought behind it was very strong and with it was a message.

But that's me and it has worked for me.

With that said, there are false thoughts too that manifest false things, and each person has a customized way of discerning between true and false. Some thoughts can be planted. But that's another story.

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posted May 05, 2008 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
An active Regulus in the horoscope is supposed to bring you into contact with royalty or, at least, very powerful people. It depends on the planet contacting Regulus on exactly how this contact is made and which part of the anatomy of the powerful person it will be made with.

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posted May 06, 2008 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the information Seeing. I've heard of the star before.

For those who don't know, a quick look up Parker's says:

"The ancients believed that this star had the qualities of both Mars and Jupiter. A great deal depends on how it connects with other entities in the birthchart, but it contributes to ambition and success. It can encourage revenge, and if this occurs, because this is one of the "Regal Stars", it may cause a fall from grace and favour."

Parkers says that it is located 29"8' Leo and says that such stars should only be allowed half-degree orb with planets in aspects. It also suggests that some other authors recommend a 1 degree orb.

This site says its at 29"50:

http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/fixedstars.html
http://www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html

Unfortunately, none of that stuff really helps in regard to my natal chart. The closest thing I have to Regulus is saturn at 29"16' cancer but anyway, I wouldn't consider saturn having an aspect with regulus as it is in semi-sextile aspect. If I use the six degree orb as suggested in the second website for larger stars, then my unaspected venus (26"07' sag/9th) and chiron (23"45' aries/1st) forms a grand trine with it, but I'm pretty tight with orbs and wouldn't count it.

But interestingly, I don't know the exact times of the events but the approximate time that I drew up for the second event has a leo ac 29"22. Of course we know that the asc moves fast, but regulus was just behind the asc then.

I think the first event was simply a uranus shock. The second was a normal conversation but with people who weren't famous to me but actually are famous.

Thanks for your help all. At least I have learnt a lot of astrology today

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posted May 06, 2008 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
After tainting your thread with the ugly stench of metaphysics, I would like to look at something in your chart, like Doryphory etc. to see which houses it might be placed if there is a Doryphory going on your chart.

A Doryphory is difficult to define because I am still trying to understand it myself; but it has to do with how lumanaries are placed relative to some stars and benefic planets; which could attract people of high prestige in your life.

And just off the top of my head, it could be the person you were with that was attracting these people.

*shrug*

Okay, if you don't mind, can you post a chart with transits. I feel I owe you some astrological info.

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posted May 06, 2008 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message

Unmoved - I've looked at a few big and successful stars and nothing really strikes but I appreciate your help and you might be able to find something that I couldn't.

As for the two events, the first one occurred to me alone, the second one with my partner. I'm not sure of my partner's birth time.

If you want me to include the chart of the two events, let me know, I'll put them up for you. They're quite interesting, they describe the situations fairly well

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