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bluesguitarist
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posted May 11, 2008 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluesguitarist     Edit/Delete Message
Hey all,
Pl. bear with me. I am trying to understand astrology. What does it mean when it is said that a planet is activated? In a synastry chart when does a partner's planet activate a planet or a configuration in yours?
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posted May 11, 2008 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Basically when a transit or progression hits that planet and it kind of electrifies the system/planet or it makes it operate in another way.

For example, I have venus unaspected in my chart and when something touches it through transit or aspect then it really is felt in some way. Of course, you don't need an unaspected planet for it to happen.

Another example, I have a t-square. If someone else's planet has some sort of relationship with my t-square (eg conjuncts, opposes, trines etc one of those planets) then it will activate the t-square in some way.

Hope that helps

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posted May 11, 2008 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluesguitarist     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks 23 for your reply.
But not everybody seem to be having the sme kind of activation. For ex. if you are a Leo, it means that your sun is in Leo and there must be a lot of people with the same position. So when venus moves into Leo and over your Sun do you have good luck in love/money? And do all Leos have the same luck at the same time? How do I decide that my planet is activated on not by looking at a transit chart?

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posted May 11, 2008 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
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Thanks 23 for your reply.
But not everybody seem to be having the sme kind of activation. For ex. if you are a Leo, it means that your sun is in Leo and there must be a lot of people with the same position. So when venus moves into Leo and over your Sun do you have good luck in love/money? And do all Leos have the same luck at the same time? How do I decide that my planet is activated on not by looking at a transit chart?

Well no, it depends a lot on other parts of the chart. For example, there might be other planets in the chart that might get activated by the same thing or other things and at the same time and it might have a greater impact on you. Depends on aspects to your leo sun, where it is, what house it is in etc. These all affect the activation differently. So for example a leo with t-venus conj in 5th will experience it differently to one in the 11th - one might be more appealing in love affairs, the other more socially appealing. Also a later leo will experience it at a later time than an earlier leo. That's why newspaper astrology might be a bit wrong for some, where what happens is right but the timing is wrong. Likewise, for example if you have leo sun opposed mars and another has leo trine mars, the activation will be different...


Then also there is progressions to worry about as well, and that is very age dependent. So what I am saying is that is astrology is complicated and there are so many things when it come to activations, not all are the same. A detailed examination of the chart is required to see how it occurs.


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posted May 11, 2008 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluesguitarist     Edit/Delete Message
Hi 23,
I thank you for your patience. You are a great teacher.
One more Qs, so for synastry would it be more relevant to compare progressed charts between people? Will the factors in the progressed chart indicate events of the future more accurately than natal charts?
I was studying 2 charts- the natal charts between these two people showed the guys sun in the girl's chart. in the progressed chart the situation is reversed. They have venus opp mars in natal synastry, but venus conj mars in progressed synastry.
What does it mean?
Confused student.

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posted May 11, 2008 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
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Hi 23,
I thank you for your patience. You are a great teacher.
One more Qs, so for synastry would it be more relevant to compare progressed charts between people? Will the factors in the progressed chart indicate events of the future more accurately than natal charts?
I was studying 2 charts- the natal charts between these two people showed the guys sun in the girl's chart. in the progressed chart the situation is reversed. They have venus opp mars in natal synastry, but venus conj mars in progressed synastry.
What does it mean?
Confused student.


Well some people do progressed, others do natal synastry. Progressed chart is something in motion and may represent something that is accurate for the present, but the present changes you see, it become the future you see. What I am saying is that time and situations change and that is what that represents - we're in a constant state of flux. A natal chart is what we are born with and never changes. So I tend to do a bit of both myself. Natal chart will show in general how the parties interact in general, comparing progressed against progressed shows how they are interacting now. You can also look at natal of one v progressed of the other and vice-versa.

So in the case above, venus opp mars indicates sexual attraction with a bit of negotiable tension; this will always be present; its permanent. In the progressed, mars conj venus indicates an even heightened sexual attraction between them. A progression may have put them together, to start the love affair. Progressions can be used to determine when something that is latent/sleeping actually happens/blossoms. For example, I have mars conj my partner's venus but the affair did not start until his prog mars went into my natal 5th house and trined my natal venus. See, it pays to look at all the charts.

PS you can thank Darkdreamer for opening my eyes to this stuff

Also you can look at a composite chart, whether its two natals or two progressed to see the direction of the relationship, what issues there will be in the relationship.

Hope that helps...

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posted May 11, 2008 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
PS make sure you are looking at the houses too, they are very important in charts....

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posted May 12, 2008 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluesguitarist     Edit/Delete Message
Hey 23,
Thanks a ton.
Just as u said I checked the houses on the above mentioned charts. Funny, the sun is in the 7th house when it was a comparison of natal chart synastry. It was the guy's sun in the girl's 7th house. For the progressed chart, it is the girl's sun in the guy's 7th house.
In the natal chart comparison, the guy's venus in the 4th house was opp the girls's mars in the 12th.Now the girl's venus in the 1st house is conjunct the guy's mars in the 9th.
Do the houses here indicate something. The 9th house is of far off lands. With the mars there does it mean a journey?
Just some observations.

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posted May 12, 2008 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Blues -

7th house means house of partnership.. There was a thread recently about this and there is this compulsion of partnership when this occurs.

Guys venus in 4th means closeness, familiarity and familial in nature. I can't see how her mars can be in the 12th and be opp, do you mean 10th?

If mars conj venus occurs in 1st then its highly personal and sexual. For highly sexual aspects, refer in particular to 1st, 5th (love and fun), 8th (obsessive, deep, dark). For him, being in the 9th, it still is a highly sexual aspect but he maybe sees it more in the 9th house realism - like you mentioned, far off lands, also foreigness, higher education, philosophy, law etc.

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posted May 12, 2008 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluesguitarist     Edit/Delete Message
Hi 23,
I saw the charts, it is a synastry chart, And the guy's venus in 4th does oppose the girl's mars in her 12th house.
From our earlier replies" the sun is in the 7th house when it was a comparison of natal chart synastry. It was the guy's sun in the girl's 7th house. For the progressed chart, it is the girl's sun in the guy's 7th house."

I read an article somewhere which said that the sun person will scorch the 7th house person. So if the situation is reversed does the guy get scorched by the girl this time arouns?

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posted May 13, 2008 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Oh I see, I get what you are saying then. Where these planets fall in their own charts shows where they will express it, so for example, mars in 12th - the girl might express it in private and insolation, in moments of peace/contemplation/solitude. The boy will express his venus at home or home environments (4th). But to see how specifically they express it with each other in the relationship, use the synastry where the other person's planet in the persons house (which is what we have done). Otherwise you might want to look at a composite chart and see the fate of their venus and mars as such.

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