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jane
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posted May 13, 2008 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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blue moon
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posted May 14, 2008 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scary was my Lilith (crammed 5th) and Pluto (crammed 8th) persona charts. I didn't care to look at either long enough to analyse them, maybe another day when I am feeling braver.

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posted May 14, 2008 02:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic, Jane.


I wouldn`t say I WANTED to be my SN-chart, but I feel some connection to it.

Sun in Gemini in 11th house
Moon in Pisces in 9th house
ASC in Cancer with Venus closely conjunct and Saturn widely conjunct (Saturn is in 12th house though)


In the usual chart I have Sun in Sagittarius (related to the 9th house?), Moon in Aquarius (11th house?) and ASC in Sagittarius, too, with Mars on it.

My Venus is actually in Capricorn, the oposite sign of the SN-chart`s Venus.

The SN-charts ASC falls exactly onto my Eros, Vertex, Destinn, Pan and opposes my Sun-Moon-mp exactly.

intersting.

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posted May 14, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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AcousticGod
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posted May 14, 2008 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only thing that jumped out at me was the NN as it's only 2 degrees away from my current natal sun.

I also notice that my Sun and Moon have switched houses. Natally I have an 8th house Sun, and a 5th house Moon.

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Green Fairy
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posted May 14, 2008 05:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro.com doesn't have a SN Persona chart

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AcousticGod
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posted May 14, 2008 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does. It's just not named that for some reason. Use "desc. Lunar node" for SN (the other one is for NN).

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Green Fairy
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posted May 14, 2008 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm a doo doo head

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Green Fairy
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posted May 14, 2008 06:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MY SN is in Scorpio
I remember saying that i'd like to be one [that or a Capricorn].
The sun in my SN Persona chart is in Scorpio, I also have a Cappy asc and a Virgo moon.
Hmm interesting.

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AcousticGod
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posted May 14, 2008 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never wanted to be a Cancer like my SN persona.

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jane
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posted May 15, 2008 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do any of you have something conjunct your SN in your natal chart? Maybe that would increase our identification with that persona.

Natally, I have Eros conjunct my SN. Thinking of it in that way, I'm really not surprised that I chose more Eros energy in my next life. I'm such a one trick pony.

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Lara
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posted May 15, 2008 04:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sn is same as my NN in this lifetime. wonder why?

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posted May 15, 2008 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Top O' the Morning to you Jane!

I have SN Persona sun in Scorpio
Moon SN Persona in Libra
Cappy SN Persona Rising

MY SN Persona NN is conjunct my natal Venus.
My SN Persona Moon is wide conj my natal AC
My SN Persona AC is conj my natal IC

And...can I ever post anything without noticing "synastric" connections?

Of course not!

My SNP Venus is conj the guy I dig's natal sun
My SNP Moon is conj his Merc
My SNP NN is conj his natal NN

His SNP Moon is conj (exact) my natal moon
His SNP DC is conj my natal Sun (exact)
His SNP NN is the same as his natal and is conj my natal Venus and SNP NN (exact!)

Have a fantabulous Wednesday, dahling!
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posted May 15, 2008 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do any of you have something conjunct your SN in your natal chart?

I don't pay much attention to asteroids, but as far as I know I don't have anything conjunct my SN. I have Jupiter conjunct my NN to the degree. I think I've gotta stick with this Capricorn bit for awhile.

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ErickaF
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posted May 15, 2008 06:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand how to upload this chart for SN??? I am confused. Help.

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Green Fairy
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posted May 16, 2008 07:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Extended Chart Selection->Persona Chart->
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jane that is soooo weird and cool! and i never knew you were a pisces SN like me! you ARE me, i think, just my other fish. and dang still haven't drawn up that diagram yet. oops!

i'd never heard of a persona chart before, so thanks for the introduction!! my SN persona chart isn't all that interesting except for a preponderance of pisces energy, but it figures. but my venus persona chart is VERY interesting. and since it's conj my asc in the first i figured it would be more relevent, maybe.

here is info about the persona chart from astro.com:

What is a Persona Chart?

The horoscope - the stage of lifeThe birth horoscope is a "script of life" which gives me an exact overview of my "drama". If we translate the horoscope drawing into a view of a stage, the circle of the horoscope becomes the circle of the stage, and the planets turn into people or actors.

Every single person in the drama has his or her very own history, has individual energies, individual needs, has weaknesses and strengths, and individual physical and psychological responses. Each person has an individual way of going through life, as well as an individual path to consciousness.

The birth horoscope represents these twelve characters in their particular arrangement as parts of the whole. We want to show a new way of looking at the chart. We do not look at the whole, but consider its parts. We will not forget, of course, that whole is more than the sum of its parts. And we keep in mind that we will do what we are doing now only for a limited period of time. But we will do it anyway.

We learn a method by which we can take out a single one of these inner personalities, and look at it closely and independently from the others for a while. The birth chart provides us with little information about this personality: we only know the zodiacal sign, its house placing, and its relations with other planetary personalities. This is not a vast amount of information. For this reason we will take a step which might sound outrageous at first: we cast an individual horoscope for this inner personality.

The Sun brings it to lightThe individual characters on the stage of my life have birth dates themselves, i.e. they have to "come to light". This phrase contains the secret of their birth. They are born the moment the Sun, which has brought me (my outer self) to light (for example on 22.8.62, at 13h22), reaches this inner personality for the first time and thus "brings it to light". If Mars in this horoscope is 26 degrees 42 minutes Aquarius, the Sun reaches the "warrior" on 3.2.63 at 1h32. Now, I have the dates I need for Mars' horoscope: the birth date of the "warrior".

In technical terms: A Persona Chart is the chart for the first transit of the Sun over the position of another natal planet. All Persona Charts 'happen' within the first year after a person's birth, when the Sun makes its first circle around it, and 'wakes up' one subpersona after the other.

Mars persona chartWe call this horoscope a "persona chart". For one, this horoscope describes one of my inner "personalities", and secondly, it is derived from "per-sonare" and therefore associated with the motif of "that which rings through". Each of the inner personalities rings through the whole consisting of all the other personalities. A special sound rings through the whole chart. An individual sound!

This inner personality has - an ascendant - a ruler of the first house - a Sun, which is always the protagonist (because the Sun take the place which was taken by Mars before) - again 12 characters on the stage (!) - a midheaven.

We can treat this horoscope like a normal horoscope, but we have to keep in mind that it is not our chart, but the chart of this one person within us. We have to take care not to take this horoscope for the whole.

Persona charts are horoscopes of independent personalities - we cannot stress this often enough. Personalities inside me. The birth chart is the horoscope of the most important inner personality, of my Sun. (Therefore the Sun does not get an extra persona chart, because the horoscope this personality would have a year after birth - that is when the Sun returns to the place it had at birth - has already a different name: it is called Solar Return Chart). All the other inner personalities are relegated to second place in "traditional" astrology.

Persona charts are horoscopes which promote the other personalities beside the Sun to the rank of protagonists. They take these personalities more seriously than the birth chart does. We think it is really unfair that on the stage of life only the one (Sun) protagonist is endowed with a biography, and that only his life is given description. The other personalities are simply seen as minor characters. For this reason we want to provide a method which allows the reader to provide the other characters with biographies (i.e. life descriptions) of their own. It will occur to you that these personalities have unjustly been neglected for so long, and - to go even further - that they themselves have an ego and their own members of the cast!

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