posted May 19, 2008 05:41 PM         

I think most here think he has a Leo-ASC.

I shouldn`t have put the pics up here. I better not tell you how long I`m staring at them each time I come on this thread, and the longer I look at them, the cuter he gets. LOL
I`m really a bit weird, no?

posted May 19, 2008 08:39 PM         

I could see a Leo rising, though he doesn't have overly distinctively shaped eyes. Usually those with major Leo aspects have distinctively shaped eyes, but it's more common in females than in males.

If I had to take a second guess it'd probably be Aquarius rising. For some reason he gives off an Aqua vibe to me. Not sure why. I think it's the way he's dressed in the first picture. Also, something about his facial structure seems Aquarian to me.

posted May 20, 2008 12:29 AM         

I may have figured out his birthday. I won't say it in case you don't want it known, but just to check, does his full birth date (month, day, year) reduce to a ,,,?

To aid you in your AC quest, I violated my principles. I tend not to consider physical appearance as linked to astrology, thinking that astrology describes the psychological and the way someone animates their body, but doesn't describe the body itself. But for the heck of it I entered his photos at myheritage.com. (In case you've never visited that site, you can enter a photo and it tells you which celebrities you most resemble. So I figured if astrology actually does describe appearance, there may be a pattern with the signs of the celebrities he matches.)

posted May 20, 2008 12:29 AM         

1. Gael Garcia Bernal - Sag Sun, Sag Moon, ? AC
2. Sinead O'Connor ( ) - Sag Sun, Lib or Sco Moon, ? AC
3. Mike Shinoda (musician) - Aqua Sun, Sag Moon, ? AC
4. Michael Owen (athlete) - Sag Sun, Libra Moon, ? AC
5. Henry Fonda - Taurus Sun, Libra Moon, Virgo AC

Look at all the Sag! Coincidence that his top match is also a double Sag? Probably not. I think I've been mistaken about no significant link between astrology and appearance. My bad. (Or should I say, my malefic. Hardy har, no I probably shouldn't for the cheesiness factor. )

Another celebrity who he highly matched was Leonardo DiCaprio, who is a Scorpio with Libra Moon/AC.

Going by those results and fiddling around with my suspected bday for him, I'm going to say he has a Libra Asc.

I put his bith time at 2:47 am in Germany and that gave him a Libra AC in the third decante, and a Leo MC.

The Leo MC could contribute to the Leo appearance and his career in theater.

His Sun and Moon in Sag would both be in his 3rd house, which sounds right to me for an actor/performer. Such a heavy 3rd house influence would make communicating very important to someone, and his Leo MC specifies in which way he fulfills that need professionally.

His 2nd house Mercury and 3rd house Venus could explain him having a good singing voice.

Aqua would be on his IC and into his 5th, explaining the heavily Aqua romantic partners.

His Mars, ruler of his Dsc, would be in his 11th house, again giving him a taste for some Aqua.

posted May 20, 2008 02:49 AM         

I LOVE YOU!!! You are really amazing.

Funny enough, this guy and me share even one celebrity match (I once tried it out with a photo of mine): Gael Garcia Bernal, even though my percentage was considerable lower (only 55%).

But then I see he is a Double Sag, that guy is a Double Sag and I am a double Sag, too (Sun and ASC).

Btw you calculated his birthday right, and yes, he is too young for me. Must be my Gemini DSC.

Well, I really tend to Libra or Aquarius-ASC. But it has to be a late, very late Libra ASC (at 3 a:m. at his birthplace), otherwise he wouldn`T have a Leo-MC and that Leo MC definitely makes sense.

I agree on your interpretation of Sun-Moon-conjunction in 3rd house being good for a performer. Sun as ruler of 10th house in 3rd house - perfect symbolism for a performer: a career in the field of communication or performing.

I also agree on the good singing voice: Also Venus is ruler of 1st and falls into 3rd house; he is instinctively drawn to the field of communication? (I have the same placement, just through my Jupiter).

Well, most of his 5th house would be in Pisces, but the ancient ruler of 5th house, Jupiter, would be in his 11th house ocnjunct Mars and Amor and opposing Eros (and my name asteroid in his chart ).

And like you said, the ruler of his 7th house would be in 11th house, too.
So basically, he would have the rulers of 5th and 7th conjunct at the cusp of 11th house - strong taste for the unusual and Aquarius-partners.

Thank you for killing time for me.

posted May 20, 2008 06:30 AM         

That was my second choice, and that Jane puts up a convincing arguement backed by thorough research! I picked Leonardo as well, but don't think he has any Leo.

posted May 20, 2008 07:49 AM         

I think any of the air signs would be a good fit. But my hunch is Libra, mainly b/c of how it could give him a Leo MC and Aqua IC. Since the IC has a lunar feel to it, an Aqua IC would explain his attraction to women with Moon opp Uranus and Moon in Aqua.

The air Asc I'm least for is Gem b/c the only angular placement that could give Aqua is his MC. I think Aqua is a more fundamental part of his personality. His humor has an offbeat, imaginative weirdness to it that I associate with Aqua. Since it's a part of how he thinks, I think Aqua fits better on his Asc or IC. And the other side doesn't ring as true to me either. A Leo IC would probably take himself a little more seriously, not be as likely to present a silly humor in an interview.

So an Aqua Asc is my second choice. He'd have to have a very early Asc though to get his Venus in Cap as close to his Asc as possible. I don't think someone so comfortable socially and performing would have a Cap Venus in the 12th house. His Venus in his 3rd house would make a lot more sense, not just as a Venus placement but particularly as a Cap Venus placement. I think Cap would need a lighter, airy house to produce the type of personality he seems to have. Perhaps he has a very late Aqua Asc and Venus is in his 11th house? Could that work with his birth time/place?

But even so, Leo just feels more right on his MC than his Dsc to me.

I have a Sag friend with a very similar chart to this guy and he has an Aqua Asc. He's involved in the creative arts but from behind the scenes. He writes. I know someone else with a very similar chart to this guy but with a Leo MC and that person performs and writes.

But after saying all that, I can still see all the air signs as making sense.

Please find out his birth time!

posted May 20, 2008 09:12 AM         

"I'm practically drooling over his pics."
Me too. And I`m usually not really one to exctly "drool".

" Since I have 7 planets in fire, spread in all decanates, there's no way I could have been indifferent to this guy's charm."
Neither could I with my 5 planets and NOdes in SAgittarius and all those draconic planets in Aries. BTW you have 7 planets in Fire? Seven? WOW!
And I thought I was having many fire planets and angles with Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, NN, ASC and IC in fire.

"I think his Moon conjuncts my Moon"
Well, that means your Moon is conjunct my Sun and Mercury, too.

posted May 20, 2008 10:35 AM         

I`m not good in identifying dimples. So it could be that he has some.

"And no way is he too young for you!"
You`re too nice to say this.

"I think any of the air signs would be a good fit."
I wouldn`t mind. Then we would have our big Three in compatible signs along with his Venus and Mars being in the same sign as my Venus. lol

"n Aqua IC would explain his attraction to women with Moon opp Uranus and Moon in Aqua."
I definitely see that.

"is humor has an offbeat, imaginative weirdness"
I LOVE his humour. Really I have been laughing tears when I read that interview.
And I love his directness, I wish I could be like that. Of course sometimes this sort of very direct humour bursts through my smooth diplomatic surface and shocks my coworkers, who wouldn`t expect such a comment of me. But you can`t hide a Sagittarius-stellium and an Aquarius-Moon (and Aquarius on 3rd house cusp) for very long. lol

"So an Aqua Asc is my second choice. He'd have to have a very early Asc though to get his Venus in Cap as close to his Asc as possible."
But even with 0° Aquarius the Venus would still be 4° from the cusp.

"rhaps he has a very late Aqua Asc and Venus is in his 11th house? Could that work with his birth time/place?"
No, funny enough, but when he has an asc of 29° Aquarius, Venus will be exactly on his 12th house cusp.

Your deduction is very convincing so far. Also, Libra ASC would fit in that I used to (before my ARies and CAppy men) fall for Libra-men hard (the two boys I have had a crush on in elementary school -lol- were both Libra), and he reminds me a tiny little bit of them.

But he would have to have a late Libra-ASC to get Leo on his MC; besides I don`t see a Pluto in the 1st house.
But let`s say his ASC is 22,5°-30° Libra (22,5° Libra ASC gives a 0° Leo-MC); we would actually have an ASC-Mercury-dw then. lol
AND my Adonis and Sappho would fall onto his ASC (and my dr Venus would fall onto his DSC. lol).
However, he would have Adonis conjunct his ASC himself.

It does actually make sense to me. He really is handsome, isn`t he?

DD

posted May 22, 2008 05:54 AM         

I consider hiding it at all a crime against humanity! I love me some Sag/Aqua quirkiness.

posted May 23, 2008 05:08 AM         

it`s offcial. I have officially lost my mind, gone totally insane.

*gulps* I still can`t believe I did what I did!
Oh Jeez, still trying to recover from the worst emotional hangover ever. Where is my cool detached Aquarius-Moon, when I need it?

It had somehow disappeared the minute he came onto stage, and it was certainly not there when I met him at the stage door.
Oohmph, don`t know which train actually has been running me over, or what devil has been driving me, but I chatted a little bit, tiny little bit with him, actually he made me take a pic with some other girls - fans- and him (needless to say I made a total idiot out of myself), and then well, I asked him if I could do a horoscope for him!
I can`t believe these words actually came out of my mouth!
And suddenly it all went silent, all the chatting actors, fans and people all around, completely silent, stunned. Thank heavens it was dark, so noone saw I probably turned crimson red.
But to make a long story short - there is actually much more to tell and digest for me- he was interested, or at least he pretended to be (suspcicious nagging voice inside. ), but he didn`t know his birthtime.
It was the minute I should have turned and gone away, but I just stood there like nailed on the spot and stared at him, rather confused. What? I gather up all my courage and ask him and then nothing?
Well, it was only a short moment,t hen I decided to say nicely thank you and leave, but the moment I wanted to do that he said: "Wait, I am going to call my mother. She must know."

Wtf????
I know I said it here on the forum, that I would wait for him to call his mother, but it was a JOKE. I didn`t expect him to do that. But he did.

And we have all been wrong!

He has been born on 12:30p.m, which gives him a Pisces-ASC of 23°, and places his Sun-Moon-conjunction directly onto his MC, which btw makes sense actually.

And I think I owe him a horoscope now.

And I still have tickets for tonight. How can I go to the show after I have demasked myself as such a nutcase?

But hey, at least I know his ASC now, which btw falls onto the conjuunction of my draconic Amor, Mars and ASC. ROFL Of course whatelse.

BTW the ruler of his 7th hosue, Mercury, is almost exactly conjunct my NN, and at the exact time when I approached him, the ASC of this "first meeting" was exactly conjunct my NN and his Mercury, DSC-ruler. lol

posted May 23, 2008 05:30 AM         

That's AWESOME!

You shouldn't feel silly. He was obviously interested or he wouldn't have stopped you to put the call in to his Mom!

I can't think of anyone that I know off hand with a Pisces AC, but I'm sure one of the many that don't know their birth times has one.

Maybe it's a bit elusive like the Pisces suns...the other signs show through and it just isn't that apparent!

YAY for you! GO Girl! One down...two to go!

PS) ETA...dimples are in cheeks or chin, usually and show up when someone smiles.

posted May 23, 2008 06:07 AM         

I was never happier to be wrong! LOL!

DD, well done girl!!!! Have fun tonight! I'm sure he does not think you're crazy, astrologers always do charts for famous ppl. If you think it's still somewhat weird, tell him you're doing research on artists' charts. Remember, attitude is everything.