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Got Gemini?
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posted June 06, 2008 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Do you think synastry has to be activated by attraction? I mean, let's say you know someone's birth info. You check the synastry only to find out that the two of you have the best synastry astrology has ever seen, except their is one problem, you are not physically and/or mentally attracted to the person. So do you think you can't get past first base (synastry) if you are not attracted to the other person?

Also, this is not meant to be superficial, its a serious question.

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maira
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posted June 06, 2008 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message
I think synastry is attraction or repulsion and that you can't have a very good synastry with somenone without being attracted. For instance mental attraction - good mercury contacts, physical attraction - venus - pluto, venus - mars, etc.

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Got Gemini?
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posted June 06, 2008 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know about that though. I am attracted to a LOT of Hollywood women and singers and synastry between most of them and I is horrid. Also, as far as Venus - Mars aspects go, I have been attracted to many females whom I had no Venus mars aspects worth mentioning. Thats why I ask what I ask.

I like Natalie Portman, she is a gem but who is to say she would be attracted to me?

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swirl-kitt
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posted June 06, 2008 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
I definitely think so.

The first condition is to find that person somewhat attractive-at least subconsciously, and of course it's important who that person is. For instance, I couldn't feel attracted to a 80 year old homeless guy even though we had great compatibility !

So checking out a synastry chart with someone you haven't met in person before could only create some amusement, it wouldn't promise anything at all.

But if such 2 people were the last people left on earth, I guess they would at least get on well with each other :P

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posted June 06, 2008 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Although I have great synastry with George Clooney, he will have to sit at home dreaming until our paths cross one day.

Synastry isn't a formula, it's a map of the interaction between two people. At least that's my view. There's no guarantees. People can control how they interact with each other to a certain extent, for example in learning not to argue so much. Taking aspects in isolation doesn't bear up to reality either. People are contradictory and often change in subtle ways.

If you don't see Venus/Mars cropping up on a chart of someone with whom you have a sexual tension scenario it might crop up on Mars/Pluto or some other aspect. Liking their physical appearance could show in an aspect to their ascendant.

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bvanzy
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posted June 06, 2008 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bvanzy     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking Got Gemini, but I have often wondered how synastry is activated.

How big a role does the Ascendant play for example? If someone had a Sun/Moon conjunction and a Venus/Mars conjunction, but neither of these aspects formed a link to the Ascendant or the North Node or MC how long would it take to realise or feel the chemistry and compatibility between the two? Would it be a constant underlying but unrecognised dynamic between them? Or would it lie dormant until two people get to know each other?

Synastry starts to become apparent as two people get to know each other, but some connections take longer to swim to the surface than others. And many connections we have with others we might never experience with them.

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posted June 06, 2008 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think you can have the best synastry with someone and not be attracted mentally or physically, one of the two has to be there. If you have good synastry that creates mental attraction, but no physical attraction than probably that person will be just your friend. If you have good synastry that creates physical attraction and no mental attraction than that person will probably just be your lover. If you have good synastry with both physical and mental attraction than that person will probably be a partner. If you don't have mental nor physical attraction, than you probably have nothing.

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bvanzy
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posted June 06, 2008 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bvanzy     Edit/Delete Message
The difficulty comes when assessing synastry if the beginnings are not a breeze. Or the connections are not near the surface.

For example:

Person A has a Sagittarius Ascendant square a Virgo stellium of Person B.
And Person B's Ascendant is unaspected or badly aspected by Person B's planets.

Now Person A and B also have a beautiful conjunction say: Sun/Jupiter/Mars of A to Moon/Venus of B in Leo which doesn't aspect either Ascendant.

Will they operate on the synastry level of their Ascendants + the aspects made to their ascendants? Therefore never get to feel the lovely Leo conjunction. Or will such a strong conjunction MAKE ITSELF felt early on in the dynamic between two people and push them towards knowing each other better despite their negative initial aspects?

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posted June 06, 2008 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know triplecancer, I agree with swirl-kitt here. Let's say your type is a tall, dark, handsome, compassionate, nice guy. Now let's say you have been working with a fat, bald, short, complete jerk that is mean and incompassionate. Let's say the two of you don't get along and you are more attracted to a heaping pile of stinky dog poo on a warm muggy summer day than you are to him. Let's say you one day come across his birth info and you being into astrology, you decide to look at his natal chart for kicks and giggles. When doing so, you can't help but notice that his placements compliment yours in a majorly good way. So your curiousity now piqued, you decide to check your synastry with him only to be completely shocked to find out that you two have soulmate synastry. You begin to gag with laughter and think "NOT HAPPENING IN A BAJILLION YEARS!!!!" Its not happening because neither of you are attracted to each other physically or mentally.

I know its an exaggeration but I think this happens more than it doesnt. I think synastry is activated by attratcion, mental or physical or both. And we must not forget that we are not the sums of our charts as there are things about us that astrology has yet to explain.

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Lucia23
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posted June 06, 2008 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I think synastry plays out differently based on the details of the people involved, and their attraction level...but if people have challenging and sexy synastry, it will make them feel attracted in some way. And if they have harmonious synastry, they'll feel easy with each other.

For instance, let's say person A is a conventionally good-looking heterosexual 30-year-old single female and person B is a conventionally good-looking heterosexual 30-year-old single male and they have AMAZING synasty, lots of attraction/lust/fascination indicators. They are introduced at a party by mutual friends. They are going to be attracted and want to make out.

Now let's say that persons A and B in the following scenarios have the EXACT SAME individual charts and therefore synastry as the A and B above, except:

-Person A is a short, fat 30-year-old heterosexual man. Person B is his conventionally good-looking 30-year old, male, heterosexual boss.

These two will STILL feel the amazing, sexy attraction of their synastry...it'll just play out very differently. They may be drawn to each other platonically, intrigued by each other, and mysteriously stimulated by each other at work.

-Now let's say person A is a movie star and person B is her biggest fan, and the two have never met.

In that case, if they did meet, person A would likely feel a rush of intrigue and interest unusual when meeting fans. She might linger with person B an instant longer.

We each have fascinating synastry with millions of people we've never met. When we MEET someone, our synastry comes into play, but I don't think we have to feel attracted to set it off. It simply influences the way we perceive each other, along with several other key influences (age, social role, the context in which we meet, gender, sexual orientation, availability, amount of exposure to each other.)

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posted June 07, 2008 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
A perfect example with me is my synasty with actress Lauren London:

I think she is HOT but our synastry is BAD. No notable venus-mars stuff. I just think she is very pretty. Now would she find me attractive? But of course LOL! J/K, but seriously, who knows.

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luv and light
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posted June 08, 2008 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luv and light     Edit/Delete Message
I think that another aspect of synastry is TIMING..

If you are having really bad transits, and you meet someone you have great "synastry" with , your relationship will not work , no matter how great the synastry.

Who knows, perhaps if you meet the right 80 year old homeless guy AT THE RIGHT TIME in your life, you 2 might have a wonderful relationship!!

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Charlotte
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posted June 08, 2008 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlotte     Edit/Delete Message
Got Gemini,
I can see quite a few things in there that would explain your attraction to her.

The sun oppositions is magnetic appeal.
Some astrologers believe that oppositions are negative, I don't when it comes to synastry- Oppositions can be magnetic.
Sun/Sun = attraction...

Give me a chart where absolutely nothing is going on and I will be surprised if those two people are attracted to one another.

Synastry doesn't always equal romantic attraction, it can explain it though!

Also, just because you think someone is Hot! doesn't mean that you wouldn't want to throw them off of the proverbial cliff, if you had a chance to know them...

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annaf
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posted June 08, 2008 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message
Got Gemini,

her ascendant is in your 7th house!!!! That's enough to explain your physical attraction to her. In any case I think venus-mars aspects are completely overrated. I know plenty of synstry examples which didnt have venus-mars aspects and the physical attraction was still off the chart.

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Got Gemini?
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posted June 08, 2008 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Her birth time is not correct as I just chose 12pm because I don't know her exact birth time. So I don't know what her Asc would be.

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swirl-kitt
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posted June 11, 2008 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
There's one thing, though.

Sometimes, on a few occasions in the past, I had to choose between 2 people both of whom I was attracted to and I chose the ones, that were in my opinion, less attractive. And not because they made me feel more secure or anything. So in such cases I think synastry plays a part. When you feel like you love someone without a solid reason.

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posted June 11, 2008 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Just looking at this thread, it makes me realize a pattern of mine. I never look at synastry until the relationship is over. It is always a retrospective exercise for me because I believe that whatever the stars say - ultimately it is left to a person's will and desire to make a relationship work. I personally believe that fate leaves a room for choice. So I will only do synastry when I will never see the person again or when I have decided to not go into things/go further with the person.

So, in the past I have had very bad synastries with people with whom I had a reasonably good relationship .

So, it is always attraction/chemistry and the feeling that decides because some relationships just require trust and commitment to work towards a happy ending, and that's a matter of faith not the stars.

And most of the good synastries I have had were between me and people I detest. I went to college with this guy. We were attracted to each other, everything was great, even our synastry but we never dated, and today I can hardly stand him.

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posted June 11, 2008 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
idk, If you're attracted to a celeb, for example, I think you would be attracted to their MC more than their personal planets since you don't know them. Also the ascendant has more to do with surface impressions than venus/mars.

Though I will say that I have had a strong venus/mars square with a guy and from the moment I first saw him, I felt an immediate attraction to him. Like I REALLY wanted to have sex with him. It was different from other crushes I've had.

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Lana29865
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posted June 12, 2008 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lana29865     Edit/Delete Message
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