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posted June 06, 2008 01:58 PM         

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Post some of your personal theories on synastry. Doesnt matter how mundane or radical or different they are, just post em.

Some of mine, I think orbs are a personal matter. I think it is up to the individual to discern how sensitive they are to tight and wide orbs. I also believe a person's sun sign ruler and any synastry contacts to it is probably as important as the personal inner planets.

I don't buy Magi's Chiron Vs Juno theories but I do enjoy their synastry reports.

I don't know if their is a difference between a soulmate and a twinsoul. I think they are the same.

Horary? I dunno, the jury is still out on that one for me.

I believe the antis that say sidereal is right have no clue. (I'll explain later, my break is over).

So c'mon and post some of your theories!

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posted June 06, 2008 04:55 PM         

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If you do a sample of people you know on a casual basis, acquaintances and neighbours, say, it is notable how many synastry charts are going to come up with aspects with wide orbs or not much interaction at all.

That pretty much bears out with reality, doesn't it? There are plenty of people I chat to on a daily basis but of those there will be a narrower number I will actually become friendly with on a closer basis.

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posted June 06, 2008 05:50 PM         

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When I say wide orbs, I'm not saying like something crazy like conjunctions over 10 or 11 degrees. I'm saying, they say the Intensity fades as the orb grows. And what I mean is that maybe some people feel 10 or 11 degree conjunctions as intensely as someone that feels a 1 or 2 degree conjunction. Thats all I'm saying. I'm not trying to reach and say we should include 20 degree trines LOL.

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posted June 06, 2008 08:23 PM         

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I just treat synastry how I treat natal charts: The planets represent house rulers, therefore houses.

Say If you have your Mars on my Venus.
Your Mars rules your house 3 with Aries on the cusp. My Venus rules my 2nd house with Libra on the cusp.

Therefore I buy you a car, and you talk to me about finances.

Compatability for long term relationship, look to each persons 7th ruler. Or 5th for dating/short romance.

I rarely do synastry, but attempt to keep it all as consistent as possible. I do horary, natal, composite and synastry the same way.

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posted June 06, 2008 08:28 PM         

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soul mates and twin souls are different. I worked that one out this week!

Equal is better than placidus.

I believe chiron/juno in Magi does work but l think Juno should be prominent in synastry too.

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posted June 06, 2008 09:44 PM         

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I don't know Lara and I have an EXCELLENT Magi synastry report with someone I care about. I still don't put weight into their Chiron Vs Juno theories simply because of their study group of Hollywood people and the fact that tradiotional astrology just works for me.

As far as the Twin Flame theory, I dunno, maybe its just a stronger version of a soulmate. I thought a twin flame was someone born a different time but with the same placements as you.

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posted June 06, 2008 10:09 PM         

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Interpretating famous or infamous matches for the purposes of illustrating how their take on astrology works is very effective.

It wouldn't work using Mr & Mrs Smith, because people wouldn't know what had occurred between Mr & Mrs Smith from sources outside magi astrology. So it would be a circular illustration.

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posted June 06, 2008 10:39 PM         

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Lara, please explain what you mean regards Twin souls/twin flames please and how do they differ?

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posted June 06, 2008 10:41 PM         

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I hear you. And by all means, like I said, I respect their take on things, I just don't buy some of it. Me personally, and this is my humble opinion, when I see Hollywood marriages, I never believe they last and they usually don't. Though its their choice to study whoever they feel like studying, I think it would be more effective to also include normal everyday non-Hollywood types. Couples like your next door neighbors Sally and Frank who have been married for over 50 years. Or the couple that you always see walking together on Sunday morning that have been together for 40 years; people like that.

Its just something about the Hollywood marriages that don't strike me as sincere. Its like most of them are impulsive. Now, I'm not saying that about all Hollywood marriage, just most. And also, let me say again, this is just my humble opinion.

Furthermore, I don't like how Magi says things WILL BE a certain way for sure. Like, everything is black and white with no gray areas or room for difference. Also, they are very dramatic and they don't even consider personal planet contacts to be that important. They tout Chiron as the almost end all be all love planet. I think they are wrong. However, I love their ideas about declinations and I started to look into them ever since I was introduced to them through a Magi synastry report.

And for the record, I do enjoy reading their synastry reports. The one I have with someone I care about makes me warm and fuzzy inside LMAO! J/k, but seriously, their reports offer a different point of view despite my problems with their theories.

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posted June 06, 2008 10:48 PM         

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Oh and Lara, i'm not at all trying to downplay anyone's theory on twinsouls or twinflames, I just think that their is no difference and that the words are interchangeable. I think Venusdeindia and others are EXCELLENT with their work, I just think that the soulmate is the ultimate mate.

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posted June 06, 2008 10:56 PM         

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They're definitely cocksure! I like their take on Chiron, but I'm less keen on their melodramatic takes on aspects such as Saturn/Neptune. But I do respect their work, and another serious astrological perspective always interests me too.

If you had a magi report done, did you get a lot of their aspect definitions that you would care to share? I have a short list of some of theirs but be no means them all. Any additions would be most welcome.

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posted June 06, 2008 10:57 PM         

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I'm gonna check that out Kick it.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:12 PM         

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Sure Bvanzy, let me see if I can find them.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:14 PM         

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[VENUS CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR URANUS]
Linkage: ROM/R= +35. SEX/R= +75. CMPT/R= -50. FLUCTUATING RELATIONSHIP. This is a Uranus Linkage. Because Uranus is non-committal and does not believe in long-term relationships, this linkage often reduces the chances of long-term love and marriage. Unless a couple has very strong Chiron Linkages, this linkage generally decreases the probability of a lifelong marriage and increases the likelihood that one or both partners will have affairs. For this reason, this is a great linkage to have with someone if you are looking for just a fling. The normal attributes of this linkage fulfill perfectly the requirements of a casual affair: sexual attraction, no emotional ties, no commitments, and the affair naturally fades away with no complications.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:15 PM         

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[VENUS PARALLEL YOUR CHIRON]
Linkage: ROM/R= +195. SEX/R= +135. CMPT/R= +195. ROMANCE LINKAGE. CINDERELLA LINKAGE. MAGICAL LINKAGE. In terms of romantic attraction, this is the most powerful linkage that you can have with anyone. This linkage occurs more often in married couples than any other linkage. If the two of you also form a Romantic Super Linkage, then you have the astrological basis necessary to fall in love. This linkage is also a sign that the two of you can be very helpful to each other, sometimes without even trying because being able to help each other is in the stars. That's why this linkage is MAGIcal. This is the linkage that COMBINES DESTINIES and it almost has a mystical power and seems to aid the linked persons in anything that they do together so long as they are in love.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:16 PM         

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[JUPITER CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR NEPTUNE]
Linkage: ROM/R= +145. SEX/R= +65. CMPT/R= +195. ROMANTIC GOLDEN LINKAGE. Sometimes, we are faced with the choice of money or love. But when you have this linkage with someone, you can have both. The Jupiter-Neptune linkage is a very reliable sign that the two linked persons will have a harmonious and mutually beneficial relationship. This is one of the most beneficial and powerful linkages you can have with anyone and very much helps the two of you to succeed in whatever you do together, so long as you are honest and fair with each other. The hallmarks of this linkage are great rapport, mutual respect and understanding, and a relationship that is peaceful, financially secure and safe. To top it all off, this linkage even increases mutual romantic interest. For all these reasons, the Compatibility Rating of this linkage is second only to the Chiron-Neptune Lifelong Cinderella Linkage

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posted June 06, 2008 11:16 PM         

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[SATURN CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR SUN]
CLASH: ROM/R= -135. SEX/R= -150. CMPT/R= -195. SATURN CLASH. This is a very bad Saturn Clash and you are the Passive Person in this Clash. The most likely result of this Clash is that this person will have the upper hand in your relationship and will be in the driver's seat in some important parts of your life. This Clash is a sign that you are susceptible to being under this person's influence and that you are likely to have difficulty recognizing this person's faults. Unless there is Saturn Balance between you, the result of this clash is usually ultimately intolerable for you. One reason is that this person will usually look at you in a bad light and is unlikely to truly care about you. Our advice is to not proceed with this relationship because if you get involved with this person, it would be very difficult for you to break off the relationship, and the breakup would most likely be very painful for you. Less than 1 in 10 couples with this clash have a lifelong marriage. Only the most unselfish true love can overcome this clash. If the two of you have Saturn Balance, it would help. But even with Saturn Balance, the odds are against you because this is one of the worst Saturn Clashes.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:17 PM         

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[SATURN CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR JUPITER]
CLASH: ROM/R= -200. SEX/R= -00. CMPT/R= -200. NULCEAR CLASH. You are the Passive Person of this Saturn Clash. From the standpoint of compatibility, this is the worst of all clashes. Almost anything you do together that would help you ends in failure. This clash usually results in a highly stressful relationship with a lot of finger pointing. So if you are not involved with this person, our advice is to not get started. If you are already involved, YOU MUST gather up the strength to make the break. You are likely to be hurt by this person and eventually regret any relationship that you have had with him/her. This is the case no matter how good this person really is. The harm to you is usually inadvertent, and often irreparable.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:17 PM         

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[SATURN CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR MIDHEAVEN]
CLASH: ROM/R= -130. SEX/R= -99. CMPT/R= -130. ONE-WAY LACK OF CONFIDENCE CLASH. You are the Passive Person of this clash. This clash significantly reduces the level of confidence this person has in you, making it very difficult for this person to fall in love with you. This clash does not effect how you view him/her.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:18 PM         

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[NEPTUNE CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR VENUS]
Linkage: ROM/R= +160. SEX/R= +90. CMPT/R= +160. ROMANCE LINKAGE. LIFETIME LINKAGE. ROMANTIC GOLDEN LINKAGE. This is one of the most powerful Romance Linkages and is often symbolic of an enduring romance. In terms of creating lifelong relationships, this is the best Linkage other than the Cinderella Linkages. This great linkage bestows and sustains a very harmonious, peaceful, serene and romantic union. It also improves the quality of sex between the two of you and even helps the two of you succeed and make money in what you do together.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:18 PM         

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[NEPTUNE CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR JUPITER]
Linkage: ROM/R= +145. SEX/R= +65. CMPT/R= +195. ROMANTIC GOLDEN LINKAGE. Sometimes, we are faced with the choice of money or love. But when you have this linkage with someone, you can have both. The Jupiter-Neptune linkage is a very reliable sign that the two linked persons will have a harmonious and mutually beneficial relationship. This is one of the most beneficial and powerful linkages you can have with anyone and very much helps the two of you to succeed in whatever you do together, so long as you are honest and fair with each other. The hallmarks of this linkage are great rapport, mutual respect and understanding, and a relationship that is peaceful, financially secure and safe. To top it all off, this linkage even increases mutual romantic interest. For all these reasons, the Compatibility Rating of this linkage is second only to the Chiron-Neptune Lifelong Cinderella Linkage

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posted June 06, 2008 11:22 PM         

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[VENUS CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR SUN]
Linkage: ROM/R= +95. SEX/R= +85. CMPT/R= +55 CUPID LINKAGE. This is usually a sign of instant attraction and is as powerful as a Sexual Linkage at increasing the chances of an intimate relationship between the two of you. The tone of this linkage is both sexual and romantic. But it is not as strong romantically as a Romance Linkage and not as strong sexually as a Sexual Linkage. Between sex and romance, this linkage is more sexual than romantic. It also raises the likelihood of possessiveness. Jealousy is not good for compatibility so this linkage does not improve compatibility much. Between the two of you, this person is more likely to be jealous because he/she is the Venus person of this linkage.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:22 PM         

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[VENUS CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR JUPITER]
Linkage: ROM/R= +40. SEX/R= +40. CMPT/R= +199. LOYALTY LINKAGE. PEACE LINKAGE. This linkage is found more often in lifelong married couples than any other linkage except for Chiron Linkages and Sexual Linkages. This helps to build a mutually forgiving relationship and the highest degree of harmony between two persons. Also greatly enhances loyalty and friendship. Jupiter's presence in this linkage reduces the stress level of this relationship and elevates both of your desires for peace and forgiveness between you. When arguments do arise, they will be settled pretty quickly or overlooked and forgotten. This linkage also raises the level of honesty and fairness in this relationship. Although this linkage has no direct effect on romance and love, all of the attributes of this linkage are very helpful to any love relationship and enhances compatibility so much that this is the number one linkage in Compatibility Rating.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:22 PM         

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[MOON PARALLEL YOUR JUNO]
Linkage: ROM/R= +135. SEX/R= +175. CMPT/R= +110. JUNO SUPER LINKAGE. INTUITIVE BOND. NATURALLY INTIMATE. If you also have a JUNO SUPER SEXUAL LINKAGE, intimacy with this person is highly likely and you would feel very natural when making love with this person. We do not want to pour water on the two of you but we have to warn you that Juno Linkages create short-term attraction and you need to have Chiron Linkages or else this Juno Linkage will only help produce an affair, or a short marriage.

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posted June 06, 2008 11:26 PM         

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[JUPITER CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR MERCURY]
Linkage: ROM/R= +80. SEX/R= +65. CMPT/R= +180. PERFECT COMMUNICATION LINKAGE. This is one of the best linkages at enhancing compatibility. Very powerful in helping the two of you to exchange viewpoints, communicate peacefully, patiently and articulately, understand each other and reach agreements and fair compromises. This linkage greatly helps the two of you to overcome your differences in other areas. It also significantly builds trust. Perhaps best of all, this linkage helps the two of you to jointly achieve what each of you cannot accomplish by yourself. Together, you look like geniuses.

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