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Topic: Obtrusive guy annoys & frightens me - help on Synastry, please
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alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted June 10, 2008 11:02 PM
Something I never experienced before is happening to me right now: A very (!) obtrusive guy is haunting me – and it starts to annoy me. I don’t know how to deal with the situation properly.We came to know each other as colleagues, about 3 years ago, and started to make “friends” then. He made clear from the start that he found me attractive – but I didn’t take that too seriously, since he’s coupled up with his GF for ten years now. He tried to approach me sexually several times in the past. And I admit that I had given in to this once (which is about 1.5 years ago) – I was “single” then and had no feelings for him, it was just a momentary thing, a one-night-stand for me - and I really regret it. I told him so, soon after. And he seemed to be alright with that. Then I entered a relationship myself - and he left me alone for about one year now. But since he came to know that I am “single” again, he is approaching me harder than ever, in a way I don’t like. Writes me e-mails with plain sexual plot, calls me quite often, even rang my doorbell/stood in front of my house twice during the last two weeks (I pretended not to be home.) He is still with his GF! But he seems to be going nuts now and I really start feeling uncomfortable, as if the situation is out of control He won’t accept my “no”s. I tried to be polite and easy until now. I don’t feel physically threatened, like: in a “criminal”/”violent” way … just completely irritated and annoyed by his obstrusive behaviour. Problem is: We are still some sort of colleagues and I appreciate him in that (professional) regard. But he REALLY is getting on my nerves and makes everything worse each day. Please, if you look at our Synastry: What’s his problem? HE is in the inside, my chart is on the outside. Should I better cancel the whole contact? Don’t know … he is quite influential. I am not afraid of that, but … it all gives me a strange feeling. Very (!) uncomfortable.
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blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted June 11, 2008 06:18 AM
I find that chart hard to read, don't know if it is just me, I have been having migraines this week.If he is a high-powered person he is used to having people do what he says. So when you tell him to get stuffed he might find that a bit of a turn on. What was the one-nighter all about? Was it a tactic to get rid of him? The key could be that he only tries it when you are single. If you have any burly friends who would be happy to have a little word with him that might sort this one out. IP: Logged |
alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted June 11, 2008 01:08 PM
quote: What was the one-nighter all about? Was it a tactic to get rid of him? .
No – no tactic at all, at that time. I was just a single person then and … well… welcomed the occasion. That guy is renowned for chasing ANY woman he can get, and everybody (including his GF) knows. I was just in the mood for having a casual thing that night – and I thought it was the same with him. He had begged for it that time, I found it a bit ridiculous, but then ... okay. I was free. It was okay, that night. That was it. No misunderstandings thereafter, so far. This is 1.5 years ago! IP: Logged |
Scorpio Chick Knowflake Posts: 147 From: Registered: Jun 2006
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posted June 11, 2008 07:24 PM
Tell him you are not interested. Don't respond to him in any way but professionally. Tell him you expect his emails and comments to stop immediately. If he doesn't, tell his girlfriend, save his emails and report him for sexual harrassment.If he makes you feel that uncomfortable, you should be able to speak up about it. It makes me so mad when a woman won't speak up about things like this. Who gives a rats a$$ about HIS feelings? It's your feelings that matter. If he is pushing your buttons, tell him to back off and stay there. Simple as pie. I had a similar experience with a scorp man once. I tried to be nice about it, but I got tired of that fast enough. I had to be rude, and in turn he got ruder, but I had to let him have the last word, just cause I felt sorry for him and refused to keep going around in circles.
Good luck.
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Lana29865 Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Mar 2007
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posted June 12, 2008 12:33 AM
Here's a quick try at astro analysis:Your Venus is conjunct his ASC - that is about attraction big time... He has a strong 2nd house and NN in the 8th, which is a strong sexual axis. That is not in itself obtrusive (could be hidden lust/passion as well), but Mars and Jupiter BOTH in the 1st house are quite a LOT! I can't see if your Jupiter conjuncts his Venus, but if it does, that explains his interest in you even more - you have something he wants a lot. Good luck with handling him... IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 2528 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted June 12, 2008 02:20 AM
If you feel threatened by him, tell him that his behaviour must stop. And then if it still doesn't, take out a restraining order against him. You have the right to feel safe.IP: Logged |
alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted June 12, 2008 03:32 AM
Thanks for your replies - really, thanks a lot!Luckily I don't feel "threatened" in a way that scares me physically, I mean: He is no violent stalker or sth like take - I don't see my life in danger. He cannot afford to be violent, because he's got a reputation to lose and all. Maybe ... he does have such a streak. Don't know. Since he's got that (miserable) GF, he isn't interested in having our "thing" being out in the open. Everybody knows he's cheating her (she included), but it would be sort of a scandal if our one-night-thing came out ... So I seem to have something in my hand, against him. Nevertheless it's frightening - psychologically, because this man really seems to be obsessed - i just got the MEANING of that word, by his behaviour: OBSESSION. He is really out of control. He is so ridiculous and annoying ... and he just .. won't get it! Strange kind of stubbornness. He's underminding all the remaining respect I had for him, professionally and all. I never met such a JERK. He has absolute no control writes E-mails late at night ... really ugly porn-mails ... Huh! I am not even sure whether I am the only one who is chasing that way. I don't care, anyway. I just wish he'd leave me alone. The scary thing is that i TOLD HIM several times before: Leave it, man! But he seems to be a sex addict or something. I used to have a rather positive impression on that man ... but he is so cheap - and so NEEDY in a sexual way... I never experienced sth SO disgusting. Such a NEEDINESS. Yeah, you're right. With one of the next occasions I must tell him again. I must make it clear to him that he is spoiling our contact/coelleague-ship by all that - that I am disgusted and "turned off" completely. Probably that kind of language is the only one he understands. (Funny thing is: I did this before, about 3 weeks ago, via E-mail - he then wrote me back, sht like: "Enough is enough, I'm not gonna be your toy anymore - and you cannot decide on your own, when I am to meet you ... I never want to see you again" - and stuff like that. Really angry, he was, and it seemed as if my words had "hurt" him. I made one mistake then, wrote back to him: "Hey - okay. Didn't want to sound angry - I am just not into an affair with you, okay?" I really felt that I had been to harsh ... So I stayed firm, repated all, but in a less angry way... And since then ... he obviously saw "a light at the end of the tunnel" again, all increased again, during the last 3 weeks, worse than ever.) NEEDY sex-addicted WEIRDO that guy is. Guess I've never been more disgusted by a man, and I regret now to ever have had that "one night" with that guy. Apart from that: He's really a NOTORIOUS cheater, as I mentioned before. REALLY do regret to have lingered with him once. If you study his chart, you can get an insight on a heavy cheater's chart - one who really has no control about that ... (Yeah, I'm a bit mean now ... but really: That guy is awful and his GF ... I don't know, I don't know ...) IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted June 12, 2008 04:27 AM
It sounds like he feels used: "I'm not gonna be your toy anymore - and you cannot decide on your own, when I am to meet you."That's just how it sounds he feels. I'm not saying he's right or wrong. It might be worth addressing his feelings and maybe apologising saying you are sorry he feels used but you don't want to pursue a relationship with him, blah, blah, blah. This is the way I would probably handle this one right now, at a guess. I'm not convinced his behaviour is all about sex. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6677 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted June 12, 2008 04:53 AM
have you thought about threatening to tell his girlfriend. it might scare him off.IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 2528 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted June 12, 2008 04:55 AM
Uh... I think it's been going on way too long - long after you've made it clear that you're not interested. He sounds creepy. Tell him to drop it or you will report him for sexual harrassment. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna Knowflake Posts: 4700 From: The Asylum Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 12, 2008 08:42 AM
quote: have you thought about threatening to tell his girlfriend. it might scare him off.
Amen to that, or just threaten to tell everyone at work. Childish, I know, but how else are you gonna get rid of this weirdo?*shrugs*
And addressing his feelings? Yeah, sure. As soon as he does that to his gf and everyother 'conquest' he's had. From the looks of the situation I don't feel sorry for this fuckwit at all. IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted June 12, 2008 09:12 AM
Is your natal Sun Square Jupiter? His Saturn is forcing it into a T-Square. I think maybe he is trying to teach you a lesson. Not, that I stress again, I think he is necessarily right. If this is the case. Even if it isn't, an apology is a neat way of getting rid of someone who won't give something up until they get one. But I don't mind if everyone disagrees. If shouting around the office that you slept with him and now he won't leave you alone works, hey, great. Personally I'd try and avoid that. Anything you try and do for revenge, chances are he might try and outdo you. The situation will only drag on. IP: Logged |
alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted June 12, 2008 10:15 AM
I do appreciate all your responses so much!Well, it's indeed a tricky situation. I appreciate the mental & emotional support from those who spur me on to kick him in the a**. ;-) But I'd almost rather go with BlueMoon - hey, BLUEMOON, you are a wise person, obviously. ;-) I read your first reply and thought about it for a couple of hours ... You seem to have sensed that I don't really feel comfortable whith just "blaming" him or "shouting" at him... Because there IS something else going on, more than just plain "sexual harrasment". (All the nuances are different to explain in a foreign language.) It is just so difficult for me to grab and to handle. First, I do feel a bit "guilty" myself - for having lingered with him once, although that was not (morally, ethically, emotionally) "correct". First, because he had/has a GF, so I was involved as the "third party" in a deceit/betrayal - a thought I don't like. And second, because it was plainly physical wiht him - I NEVER had sex with anyone before, whom I felt so little or: nothing for, emotionally. In both regards, that was an outstanding experience for me - and now it seems to come back to me, in a strange way ... It also makes it hard for me to "reason" with him - because i cannot apply any "moral" categories here. He TURNS ME OFF so much now, I feel such ANGER and OBTRUSIVENESS - but at the same time I sense, that this is something difficult to "explain" to him. I just don't have enough "arguments" - know what I mean? Still - of course he HAS to accept my feelings, I MUST make it clear to him. BLUEMOON, that constellation you mentioned ... I had never thought about that one! Yeah, indeed - my Sun squares my Jupiter - so his Saturn is forming a T-Square to that. Th INTERESTING thing for me now, since you pointed that one out for me, is: His Saturn is cj my P.o. FORTUNE - so my P.o.FORTUNE is forming that T-Square in my natal chart as well. It is exactly opposite my JUPITER (orb:0) ... and sometimes to leeds to rash behaviour, overestimation of hopes and objectives ... Do you think ... he might "teach me a lesson" in that regard, that he is trying to "pin me down" here, in a cosmic sense? That he just won't let me "get away" with my overly playful/rash behaviour this time - in a cosmic sense, so to speak? THAT would be interesting! Until now I rather pondered about his NORTH NODE cj. my CHIRON - whom is "teaching" or "woundin" whom? And also about my URANUS cj. his SUN - now it seems to me that his Sun might put a spotlight on my own ... fickleness ... somehow? NEVERTHELESS - he gets on my nerves and irritates me and is a very mean guy, as far as his GF is concerned. (All this also bothers me because of another thing: Some of you might remember, that I just broke-up with a man I deeply loved, two months ago, after almost a year ... because it was just too difficult for us, and all. I tried to deal with it in a mature/adult way ... But I am still suffering because of that - how i wish that THAT man would be after me!!! At least half as intensely as this weirdo-chap is ... It hurts me somehow, see that man, who doesn't interest me at all, being so keen on "meeting" me ... while the man I truly love, still love (!) doesn't seem to bother. THAT is the HURTING part involved...) THANKS for your attention and caring! IP: Logged |
wheelsofcheese Knowflake Posts: 1472 From: UK Registered: Jan 2008
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posted June 12, 2008 11:10 AM
You know, I thought the same myself. I'd go with the burly man option too. I've used it myself when needs must.The guy's obviously a meathead. Go with what he'll understand. IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 3121 From: Registered: Apr 2005
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posted June 12, 2008 11:23 AM
just a note re the chart .. note where transiting Pluto is .. ( currently on the sag/cappy cusp and retro .. ) when it goes direct again .. he will will be getting t.Pluto squaring his natal Sun .. i reckon that's what's driving him .. ( and for a few years yet ) given that t.Pluto has already been direct into Capricorn ..ditto for ~ alvarella777 ~ natal Mars .. ( looks aprox. six degrees libra there ) IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted June 12, 2008 02:03 PM
Well that's quite a compliment. But if it's wisdom it's from experience ~ with Venus Square Mars I'm going to be the last person to judge you on this one. IP: Logged |
alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted June 12, 2008 02:15 PM
You're welcome BLUE MOON. ;-)HAPPY DRAGON: You have been thinking about t.Pluto squaring my URANUS (5° Libra) in a couple of years, right? ;-) My MARS is in 28° Cancer. IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 3121 From: Registered: Apr 2005
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posted June 12, 2008 04:26 PM
oooops sorry .. i misread the symbol .. i guess it's 'lust' .. not mars .. at least that what the img. text makes it out to be .. ( i've no idea about asteroids 'n aspects to them )IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 3121 From: Registered: Apr 2005
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posted June 12, 2008 04:41 PM
hang on .. i've got it wrong again methinks .. is that glyph with the umbrella uranus ?? must be .. being where it is .. sorry about that .. i've never seen that type of symbol before .. need to get my eyesight seen to ;-)IP: Logged |
alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted June 13, 2008 01:02 PM
No prob, Happy Dragon. I'm thankful for your reply! ;-)IP: Logged | |