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Urania*
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posted June 15, 2008 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Urania*     Edit/Delete Message
Alright. I promised myself I would stop asking synastry questions when there's really no relationship between me and another person, but I can't help it I'm afraid.

This person I've known for 2 years. I always found him attractive but off limits. He had a girlfriend but that wasn't the only reason. He and I come from very different backrounds, I'd feel inadequate somehow. His family, his job, his circle of friends are too intimidating to tell the truth. Even if I did see interest from his part I didn't pursue or even think about a possible relationship with him.

But now...I guess I am. Thinking. lol. He's got such honest eyes but his chart seems to imply he's a liar, a cheat, a fraud. I don't know. Anyone want to have a look and let me know what they think is or isn't there between us. He's in the inner circle I'm on the outside circle.

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Lara
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posted June 15, 2008 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hi

where do you get the "complete liar, cheat and fraud" bit from pls?

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Urania*
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posted June 15, 2008 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Urania*     Edit/Delete Message
Well, his Sun and Mercury in the 12th, his Venus/Neptune conjunction, and that moon (and my moon btw) squaring his Neptune. I know I may be overreacting here, but to me it doesn't look so good. Maybe it's because I know he's not a very faithful guy. Again he just seems to be really secretive and reserved, and I'm jumping to conclusions when I say he's a fraud. But I can't say I trust what I see in him to be true.

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Lara
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posted June 15, 2008 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
well, aside from all of that the saturn opposing moon really just reeks of run! run! run! to me.

It sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that you like him - why bother if you already have him nail-gunned to the dishonesty wall

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Soulsista2
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posted June 15, 2008 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsista2     Edit/Delete Message
The first thing to jump out at me is the moon/moon conjunction opposing saturn. Something is putting a strong bar on any emotional involvement I would say, whether that is something within the energies of you both togeher or whether its the circumstances. I see Saturn as a stern but fair figure here, 'watching over from the other side of the room at what is going on'.

The other thing I immediately see if the sun conjunct psyche. Wow, strong indeed. An almost intuitive connection between you. Not sure who is feeling this most though. I think it exists between both but perhaps more so in the psyche person. Psyche/Eros conjunction and Mars/ venus square look very interesting for passion and sex. Strong connections to neptune may indicate the hidden passions. Strong psyche and neptune could indicate some illusions, dreaming or deception here.

I am no expert though - still learning. Sorry to sound harsh but I see strong attraction connections between you but also warning signs in the synastry chart.

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posted June 15, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
If your intuition is telling you that this guy is not trustworthy, then you should not even think of pursuing him. I often ignore my own intuition only to find that my initial gut feeling was correct. This guy may be attractive, but maybe he's just one of those people that you should admire from afar.

Based on what you've written, this relationship could possible become emotionally or mentally abusive IF this guy is the type to take advantage of someone's insecurities. You're not even dating him and you already feel "inadequate." If he is a good guy, he'll do his best to reassure you that there is no reason for you to feel inadequate. However, if he's a jerk, he can easily sense this insecurity you have and break your spirit in order to have complete control over you. I'm NOT saying this guy in particular will do this, but I have friends who have been in similar situations (i.e. feel they aren't good enough for the guy or his family) and the guy took advantage of this fact.

Any relationship can work or fail depending on the two people involved, so your decision of whether to pursue him should be based on whether you feel he is trustworthy. You already said that you know he isn't very faithful despite having honest eyes. Sometimes the "innocent-looking" people are the most dishonest. Appearances can be very deceiving, so you must tread carefully.

Remember, actions speak a lot louder than words. If he's a sweet-talker and appears honest, but physically cheats on people, then what does that tell you? Is he loyal? Nope.

If he really is unfaithful, then you shouldn't look for a long-term relationship with him. If you're looking for a casual, no-strings-attached relationship, then he would be perfect.

Whatever you decide, remember to listen to your intuition. Good luck dear!

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Urania*
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posted June 15, 2008 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Urania*     Edit/Delete Message
Well...I'm not sure he's a fraud. I'm saying I fear he might turn out to be so.

That Saturn Moon opposition is really that bad? I have it natally and it's not pretty, how does it manifest in a relationship? Would it make me the strict ***** that suffocates the poor guy? Cause of the two of us he's the one that comes off as more saturnian. But he does bring out this part of me I must admit. When I'm around him I'm less fun, more nervous and uptight. Surprisingly he seems to like that.

How about karmic aspects? He kind of feels to look like a guy I would end up marrying. Not him necessarily but his type fits the qualities I look for in guy for my partner. Despite all his flaws.

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Lara
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posted June 15, 2008 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I am going to say again that the moon/saturn opposition is going to put a ball and chain on your emotions (both of you!) and l think putting up a composite is your only option for saving how you feel now?

Personally, l would run a mile. Moon trine saturn is fine but the opposition could lead you into all sorts of trouble.

On the good side, you have eros/psyche conjunct, mars in 8th H for passion, moon/moon conjunct,

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Urania*
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posted June 15, 2008 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Urania*     Edit/Delete Message
I see Saturn as a stern but fair figure here, 'watching over from the other side of the room at what is going on'""

That so hit the mark. There are a couple of people that would find a relationship between me and him very disappointing and wrong.

Thanks for your input Soulsista2 and Astra. What you both say makes sense.

I always say that you should trust the first instict you have on a person no matter what.And from the beginning when I first saw him, I was attracted and repelled by him at the same time. But I guess it's easy to get c""arried away when a guy you like shows such attention to you, and star ignoring the red lights.

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Soulsista2
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posted June 15, 2008 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsista2     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn is not always bad. I like Saturn, but you have to respect him. He teaches responsibility and does this by bringing about consequences for your actions. Those consequences can also be rewards if you act appropriately and responsibly.

Only you can judge that Urania. As for marriahe asopects - to be honest I dont feel this from the chart both Junos arent particularly strongly aspected. Saturn in opp to moons could indicated emotional longevity but there are no other supportig aspects.

You say that you feel a bit intimidated around him and not fully yourself. How can that be a model for marriage? It sounds to me as though this is a pure fantasy relationship. Why not! - enjoy it - as long as you know what it is, dont get obessesive, dont get involved and keep a level head, I would go with the flow and enjoy the infatuation while it lasts.

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Urania*
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posted June 15, 2008 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Urania*     Edit/Delete Message
OK. This is the composite chart

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Lara
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posted June 15, 2008 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
wrong chart


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Urania*
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posted June 16, 2008 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Urania*     Edit/Delete Message
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You say that you feel a bit intimidated around him and not fully yourself. How can that be a model for marriage?

Well I said that he looks like the type I would see me get married to. Not necessarily him, but you know he fits the profile of what I'm looking for in a partner. The fact that I'm intimitated by him is not so much his fault, as it is mine. When I like someone I get all insecure and afraid.


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It sounds to me as though this is a pure fantasy relationship. Why not! - enjoy it - as long as you know what it is, dont get obessesive, dont get involved and keep a level head, I would go with the flow and enjoy the infatuation while it lasts.

Well that's not impossible considering the aspects moon and neptune make in synastry AND composite charts.

Speaking of which here's the composite chart now, as I didn't have time to put up the right chart before.

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Urania*
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posted June 17, 2008 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Urania*     Edit/Delete Message
Jeez..this guy is turning me into a psychic..lol. As I was sitting at work today I felt flooded by this feeling I get when he's around me, and I knew he was going to be there. I looked out the window and there he was! Walking to his car on the street. You'd think so what? Is just a coincidence. The fact is I never saw him in this area before. He lives and works elsewhere. I still *knew* he was there! Is that because of our moon conjunction you think?

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