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Topic: For venusdeindia - TransNeptunian Planets or "points"
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Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 387 From: somewhere far, far away Registered: Nov 2004
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posted June 21, 2008 01:01 PM
I figured we could use a fresh thread alll about this topic. We can study our TN charts and compare notes on how they impact us natally, in synastry, in Draconics, in transit, etc.So to start, here's the original list of "TransNeptunian Planets/Points": CUPIDO: Getting together. All groups: family, marriage, society, partnerships, organizations, corporations, collections. Art ... Cupido is a Super-Venus. The glyph is a combination of Venus and Jupiter, so where Venus means beauty, Cupido means art. Where Venus means love, Cupido means marriage. This is the planet of Togetherness. Redefining partnerships such as marriage. Helps to create a sense of harmony when working in large groups or organizations. Relates to reestablishing family relationships that have been fractured. HADES: All that is unpleasant, useless, antique, or deeply buried. The occult ... Hades is misunderstood, because many think only of the negative meanings: dirt, garbage, sewage, sickness, poverty, mistakes, and all things ugly and sinister. There is a positive side that deals with antiquity, depth, and past lives. Cleaning up karma, tapping into past life talents and experiences. Relates to those involved in step parent/child relationships. ZEUS: Controlled, directed energy. Machines; creativity; leadership. All things military. Combustion engines. Compulsion. Drive ... Zeus is like a loaded gun that is aimed. Even the glyph looks like a rocket. It signifies well planned efforts. Relates to learning to channel one's anger into positive expressions. Becoming a voice of principle without becoming dogmatic or holier than thou. Getting in touch with one's inner truth. Relates to speakers, lecturers, etc. KRONOS: Superiority: the highest quality attainable; the ultimate in authority; standard of excellence; undisputed expert ... Zeus and Kronos traveled in very close square from 1900 to about 1970. All natal horoscopes from 1900 to 1950 have these two planets together on the dial. These two together speak of energetic, creative activity of the highest quality. Unfortunately, they also speak of warfare, armament, and military commanders. The world experienced both sides of this combination. Reaching one's highest potential. Becoming one's highest authority. Learning to work within structures. APOLLON: The multiplier: expansion and spreading; growth and increase. Science, commerce, trade, industry, peaceful efforts ... The glyph is a combination of Jupiter and Gemini, and Apollon is truly a Super-Duper-Jupiter. Relates to those seeking to reach the highest pinnacles of success. ADMETOS: The brick wall: steadfast, stable, immovable. Shrinking. Narrowing down to a sharp focus. Specialization. Endurance ... The glyph for Admetos shows an affinity for the sign Taurus and must be drawn with a base line to show the Admetos capacity to be steadfast, stable, and immovable. Admetos describes inertia, slow motion, and things that go around in a circle like phonograph records and ceiling fans. Relates to musicians or anyone involved in an endeavor that requires repetition and frequent practice. Also for terminating circumstances that go round and round with no escape evident. VULCANUS: All that is mighty and powerful. Strength. Intensity... If a sentence has the word mighty or powerful in it, the Planetary signature will have Vulcanus in it. If the Sun and Vulcanus are together, the vitality, strength, and muscular power describe outstanding good health. Finding great strength from within. The ability to overcome limitation through sheer determination and drive. Relates to focusing on the matter at hand and working it through. POSEIDON: Spirituality, truth, ideation, enlightenment, illumination. Wisdom and culture ... Poseidon has an affinity for Pisces and its glyph looks like a sideways version of Pisces. Poseidon is Super-Neptune without a negative side. Embracing and living the highest expressions of spirituality. Relates to being involved in the Arts; enhances inspiration and creativity.
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venusdeindia Knowflake Posts: 1630 From: mumbai,india Registered: Nov 2006
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posted June 22, 2008 04:52 AM
thanx TL, i will post somethin gbout their effect that i posted in my thread from what i understand, being tran-neptune...they are trans saturnian.which means someone who has evoloved beyond the structure of saturn, dealt with Plutonic changes in the psyche ..should be evolved enough to feeel these energies that emanate rom these archetypes.
thats the verdict.now for the testimonials... THE
TRANSNEPTUNIANS as a Transpersonal Evolutionary Sequence http://www.uranian-institute.org/bftnevolution.htm [quote]THE TRANSNEPTUNIANS as a Transpersonal Evolutionary Sequence As I further developed and refined my perspective over time, Martha Lang-Wescott published new works verifying substantial observations that were also considered and incorporated; later, the Transneptunian meditations by Janis Page and the writings by Brian Clark on mythology and astrological symbolism helped in particular to further consolidate understanding of core planetary principles. These all further objectified my perceptions of the observations I have been making in actual chartwork with the Transneptunians since 1978. The following model starts with Saturn, the first planet of personal responsibility within a social reality outside one's own ego. It is divided into positive [+] and negative [-] categories for the purpose of comparing the constructive versus non-constructive potential of the planetary energies. As we learn more about Transneptunian factors, our understanding of the intra-Plutonian planets is further fine-tuned and clarified; and as Ruth Brummund points out in her introduction to the Brummund Rulebook, the various aspects of human concepts are often related to more than one planetary energy, and thus there is not necessarily a strict one-to-one correspondence between a planet and an object or concept as we perceive or interpret it in terms of human consciousness. ++THE PLANETARY DEVELOPMENTAL SEQUENCE SATURN URANUS NEPTUNE PLUTO CUPIDO HADES ZEUS KRONOS APOLLON ADMETOS VULKANUS POSEIDON
this is the sequence of these energiesevolving within us enough to have effect.so lets concentrate on cupido
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Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 387 From: somewhere far, far away Registered: Nov 2004
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posted June 22, 2008 02:41 PM
First let me say, I think you have to master your natal chart for this to even be considered. Second, the only way to find out if there's any credence to TransNeptunian (from now on abbreviated to TN) "planets" is to study and do some research. I would definitely describe my life this time around as extremely Plutonian in nature but it's too personal to get into on such a public board. Here's my TN Cupido synastry aspects with my husband (I'll just list the conjunctions): My TN Cupido conjuncts his his Sun/MC midpoint (1 degree), his Uranus (2 degrees) and his TN Poseidon (1 degree). His TN Cupido conjuncts my Jupiter (0 degree), my Solstice N Node (0 degree), my MC/Pluto midpoint (0 degree), my Psyche/Cupido midpoint (0 degree), my Utopia (0 degree), my h57 Proserpina (0 degree), my Venus/Valentine midpoint (1 degree) and my Union (2 degrees). ____________________________________ As for TN Hades...here's how it stands in my natal chart: My TN Hades is exactly cojunct my Saturn, my Draconic DSC/Valentine midpoint, and my Pan (Sabian symbol: WISPS OF CLOUDS, LIKE WINGS, ARE STREAMING ACROSS THE SKY.) Other 0 degree (a.k.a. less than 1 degree) conjunctions: my ASC/Venus midpoint, my Solstice Sun/Moon midpoint, my Solstice Venus/Mars midpoint and my Draconic Arthur - the Anglo Saxon asteroids such as Camelot, Arthur, Merlin, etc. are prominently featured in my chart so I include that particular asteroid (Sabian symbol: MOVING FINGER POINTS TO SIGNIFICANT PASSAGES IN A BOOK.) 1 degree conjunction with TN Hades: Draconic Chaos (Sabian symbol: A NEW CONTINENT RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN.) 0 degree squares with TN Hades: Draconic Mars (Sabian symbol: AMERICAN INDIANS PERFORM A RITUAL TO THE SUN.) and my Sun/Pluto midpoint axis (Sabian symbols: near - INTOXICATED CHICKENS DIZZILY FLAP THEIR WINGS TRYING TO FLY; far - A WOMAN DISAPPOINTED AND DISILLUSIONED, COURAGEOUSLY FACING A SEEMINGLY EMPTY LIFE). IP: Logged |
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Mar 2008
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posted June 22, 2008 02:48 PM
Tigerlily which code do you use for TN Cupido at astro.com? 763 or h40 ?IP: Logged |
Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 387 From: somewhere far, far away Registered: Nov 2004
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posted June 22, 2008 02:49 PM
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GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 2528 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted June 22, 2008 07:00 PM
Does a Scorpio moon with Pluto square ASC/DSC and Pluto trine Venus... currently having Pluto-ASC transit... count as Plutonian? If so then I am interested to see how Cupido figures for me...IP: Logged | |