posted June 28, 2008 02:15 AM         

well, ALL of my best friends moved away. as well as the (few) people in my family i thought were cool and was close to. this has been a pattern my whole life.

i'm also an only child and was basically ignored (or raged at) most of my childhood. so i'm sure that's a huge part of it. learned to prefer my own company.

i've always chalked it up to moon opposite uranus and NN conjunct saturn. the former bringing the instability and 'moving away' aspect, the latter being more about lonerness. at least, that's what noel tyl once told me on his forum. there was some rulership stuff going on too, but i don't remember as it was long ago and i hardly had my toes wet, astrologically speaking.

posted June 28, 2008 03:10 AM         

that's really interesting. it must have a lot to do with uranus - and aquarian influences. i have sun opposite uranus but my sun is in 1st house aries. plus aquarius moon.

posted June 28, 2008 06:36 AM         

you have a Libra moon and an elevated venus. These conflict you Uranian influences which makes you a person who longs for partnership who has a rebellious streak that doesn't want to be held down and smothered.

i believe that once you trust those around you to let them see you for all of you, good and bad, without fear of rejection, people will feel safe enough to be around you too. But before you trust people, learn to trust those who care about you, so maybe this time of solitude is so that you learn how to tell between those who care and those that just want to abuse you.

as for hurting other people, do you hurt them intentionally? How do you hurt people? Maybe you blame yourself for things that aren't your fault a little or... You carry too much on your shoulders than other people. See, sometimes what makes us loners is the fact that we assume that people won't get us, so we stop bothering making the effort of letting people see us.

posted June 28, 2008 08:34 AM         

i have many friends. One thing we always comment on is that whenever we see each other it is as if we never left each other. I suppose this is because although we don't see each other all the time, we call each other daily, to just clock in with one another.

our phone bills are ridiculous- my friends and I because we consciously cultivate our relationship. When I can't sleep, i call them in the middle of the night without fear of rejection and they do the same. When my phone is off, they know that I'm not in the mood to talk and leave messages. We are in that part of our lives when we are busy with our self growth. But we visit each other when we miss each other or when one of us is in crisis but we are not on each other's throats.

so, SS7.21- how about you open yourself up and just call someone and just say you called them because you thought of them. That's my main reason for talking to people- it is just because I thought of them, even if I haven't seen nor spoken to them in years.

posted June 28, 2008 09:47 AM         

July 11, 1963 7:53AM EST
Cleveland, OHio

posted June 28, 2008 10:12 AM         

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sometimes what makes us loners is the fact that we assume that people won't get us, so we stop bothering making the effort of letting people see us.

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posted June 28, 2008 11:22 AM         

I have been a loner because of shyness,insecurity,low self esteem because I didn't feel smart enough nor attractive enough to be with anybody. I am oversensitive person and so I do have fear of being hurt.

I have a very strong Saturn influence......especially my t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd. My Sun in Scorpio in 2nd quincunx Saturn in 2nd is also an indicator of being a loner due to issues with self esteem. I have Saturn contraparallel Mercury-Venus-Neptune that adds to the emphasis on insecurity.

I have a diagnosis of Avoidant Personality Disorder too.

Avoidant personality disorder (APD) ís considered to be an active-
detached personality pattern, meaning that avoidants purposefully
avoid people due to fears of humiliation & rejection. It ís thought
to be a pathological syndromal extension of the "normal inhibited"
personality, which ís characterized by a watchful behavioral
appearance, shy interpersonal conduct, a preoccupied cognitive style,
uneasy affective expression & a lonely self-perception ( Millon &
Everly ). According to this view, the avoidant pattern seems to range
ín varying degrees along a symptomological continuum from mild to
extreme. In mild cases, a person may be said to be normally shy,
whereas extreme cases indicate personality disorder. http://www.avoidantpersonality.com/yahoogroupfiles/ExtensiveExplanation2AvPD.htm

I have always wanted to be married and have children some day even though I have never been unmarried and childless at the age of 36

posted June 28, 2008 12:52 PM         

I am an Aries - I also have an 11th house Sun. My Sun opposes Uranus in the 5th. Both square to mars in the 8th.

My numerology birth path is 25/7 - 7s are known loners who desire the simple life - away in nature...
http://ezinearticles.com/?Numerologys-Life-Path-(7);-the-Path-of-the-Loner&id=341268
www.hermitary.com is another interesting sites....about a solitary/loner life....

posted June 28, 2008 12:59 PM         

I have always been a person of extremes (having an 8th House stellium, particularly Pluto in the 8th and a very tight Scorpio MC/Neptune conjunction - the tightest aspect in my chart, probably contributes to that - or maybe more correctly put, reflects that potentiality). I swing from periods of being a total extrovert to periods of being a total introvert. My mom says when I was a little kid I would play with others then suddenly say "I've had enough of people" then go off to be by myself. I'm still like that. There have been times in my life when I was very social and surrounded by people but more frequently, there have been times when I was a total hermit, only leaving the house to get groceries, go shopping, run errands, etc.

posted June 28, 2008 01:58 PM         

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

posted July 10, 2008 04:54 PM         

I have seen some amazing charts of Sags and Leos with awesome Sun Moon all good aspects but then the Saturn is sitting right on the first house. And, the whole person seems so loner and introvert.

posted July 10, 2008 05:22 PM         

but ive been improving quite slowly - saturn and pluto in the 1st here.