posted July 02, 2008 05:11 PM         

I had a huge argument with my boyfriend on Sunday night and it was sadly one too many freak out by me, the result of which he now is not speaking with me.

He hasn't ended it and actually emailed me to say that he needs so time and we will talk soon BUT I am just swinging from intense sadness (I dont wanna lose him for anything) and total fear that he is going to dump me online.

Can I just mention that when we are together it is perfect. None of this would have happened if we were together

In your experiences, what will he be doing? Wouldn't he just say 'its over' straight away? Is he weighing it all up with my head in the block or is he driving the car back to me as fast as possible having been driven away by my emotional outburst?

posted July 02, 2008 05:21 PM         

I can totally relate to your Aries/Taurus planets as I have them in reverse.

posted July 02, 2008 05:24 PM         

Aries and Taurus together in one person is a bit like an unshaken vinagrette sometimes, don't you think?

posted July 02, 2008 06:09 PM         

quote:

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Taurus is the olive oil and Aries the vinegar ...Lara

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posted July 02, 2008 06:26 PM         

I am letting him have his time, and trying to believe that if he wanted us to finish he would have done it by now. How long do these men sulk (and torture us) for?

"give it to me Universe"

posted July 02, 2008 06:29 PM         

You can check out is transits and see if some might be affecting him the way he is now?

posted July 02, 2008 06:40 PM         

At least your guy's not a Cancer, with a Capricorn Moon! If this ever does come together, I will deserve a medal. And I don't know if you were here when IQHunk was active, but he looked at our charts and said that he was 95% sure that this man was my twin soul. And that it would take the patience of Job to attract a twin soul in denial (or who I guess is just "running".)

I had an energy session where they brought through his higher self and all the oversouls from our life times together. It turns out that I betrayed him in every one of our lifetimes. And that he is afraid I am going to hurt him again. He also controls the karmic payback. The timing of it. So I try to remember that when I cry, and I don't understand why this isn't coming together right now. Why this has taken so long. I would guess that the pain and anquish that I caused him from the many, many betrayals is what I have been feeling over the last two years.

posted July 02, 2008 07:16 PM         

yes. I will maybe send him a sweet note on Friday to say Happy Independence Day. It's HELL!
Transits? hmmm... ok well, not good.
He has T sun square venus
T moon square venus
T mercury square mercury
T mars square saturn
T NN opposing sun/mars
OMG lol

I have
T sun sextile sun/mercury
T moon sextile sun/mercury
T mercury sextile venus/jupiter/saturn
T venus square venus/saturn/NN (ouch)
T mars trine sun/moon/mercury/venus
T mars conjunct AC (1)
T saturn trine sun/mercury
T pluto trine sun/moon/mercury/venus/jupiter/AC
T pluto square pluto

Hi venus in gemini
It's sheer hell. I feel bad cos l was in the wrong too but l just feel sick at the thought that he is leaving me hanging here agonizing about whether it's over or not.
when he contacts me l won't be able to look at the email in case it is the end.

posted July 03, 2008 05:24 AM         

23,
he is going through a bad time - thing is, he has asked me for space so now i'm too scared to mess it up even more by contacting him! I am gonna wait till tomorrow and then just wish him a Happy 4th July and see how he is.

posted July 03, 2008 09:02 AM         

does he not have a chiron transit to one or more of his placements ?
e.g his sun ..
( thinking down the lines of something mentioned in another post re a couple of his placements )

i'd be suprised if he doesn't have some sort of outer planet transit going on ..
be just that his need for space seems to creep into the posts .. fairly frequently ..

'n i doubt if the fixed sign Leo .. likes to be pushed ..
anymore than a Taurus would like ..
is aries doing a bit of pushing perhaps ? ..
or can that notion be dismissed in the scheme of things
are the rams getting .. edgy 'n butting their horns .. ?

'n given the nature of chiron ..
( " accidental wounding" are key words liz greene gives to chiron )

posted July 03, 2008 09:47 AM         

this is the favorite of all times to me.
Let his wisdom enter your heart

When love beckons to you, follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep.
And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams
as the north wind lays waste the garden.

For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you. Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth.

Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
He threshes you to make you naked.
He sifts you to free you from your husks.
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until you are pliant;
And then he assigns you to his sacred fire, that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast.

All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart, and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life's heart.

But if in your fear you would seek only love's peace and love's pleasure,
Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love's threshing-floor,
Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter, and weep, but not all of your tears.
Love gives naught but itself and takes naught but from itself.
Love possesses not nor would it be possessed;
For love is sufficient unto love.

When you love you should not say, "God is in my heart," but rather, "I am in the heart of God."
And think not you can direct the course of love, for love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.

Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself.
But if you love and must needs have desires, let these be your desires:
To melt and be like a running brook that sings its melody to the night.
To know the pain of too much tenderness.
To be wounded by your own understanding of love;
And to bleed willingly and joyfully.
To wake at dawn with a winged heart and give thanks for another day of loving;
To rest at the noon hour and meditate love's ecstasy;
To return home at eventide with gratitude;
And then to sleep with a prayer for the beloved in your heart and a song of praise upon your lips.

posted July 03, 2008 10:59 AM         

Leo men are really hard to understand.Mine is leo too..Good luck

posted July 03, 2008 11:09 AM         

does he not have a chiron transit to one or more of his placements ?

HE HAS HORRIBLE CHIRON TRANSITS AT MOMENT
e.g his sun ..
( thinking down the lines of something mentioned in another post re a couple of his placements )
YES!!!!!!!! T CHIRON OPPOSING HIS N SUN EXACT!

i'd be suprised if he doesn't have some sort of outer planet transit going on ..
be just that his need for space seems to creep into the posts .. fairly frequently ..

'n i doubt if the fixed sign Leo .. likes to be pushed ..

NOPE

anymore than a Taurus would like ..
NOPE

is aries doing a bit of pushing perhaps ? ..
SHEEPISH 'YES'

or can that notion be dismissed in the scheme of things
are the rams getting .. edgy 'n butting their horns .. ?
HE HAS NO ARIES IN HIM OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE BUT HE HAS LEO AND SAG AND SCORPIO INSTEAD

Here is his chart with transits below.

posted July 03, 2008 11:17 AM         

Diandra - wow, i'm speechless due to the lump in my throat. That is truly a beautiful Gibran poem/everything! wow
When l wish him a happy 4th july l will add this poem. It's stupendously touching, like an arrow in my heart.
Thank you x

Venusmars - Thanks. I really hope you are right. I am not giving up on this guy! He will have to drag me screaming and kicking out of his life

posted July 03, 2008 11:46 AM         

anyhowz .. looks like ..
tMerc is now opposite his Moon
and t.Uranus retrograde ( suprise suprise ) .. is re-applying by square aspect to his Moon ..
now the need for space is making sense ..
transiting Uranus only recently turned retrograde .. and he's probably feeling it ..
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posted July 03, 2008 11:50 AM         

No wonder he has gone off the rails about this disagreement

Poor guy.. i just hope these transits don't force him to make a big mistake by ending 'us'!