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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone
FINALLY l have my computer back! I have had a really interesting week.

Moved house last Monday with my 3 kids, then as you know l broke off with my man just before that... well l have totally finished it with him and have released so much inner pain etc since l have done that.

I stood up for myself and it empowered me. I realised that for the last 16 years l have missed my first love. I met him when l was 19. We went out for 5 years and l really don't know why l ended it. Maybe l was young and naive.

Anyway we kept in contact and l went to his engagement party (yes, he married someone else). It was very uncomfortable knowing then that l was losing him to another.

We spoke last year and he admitted that he didn't think, in my father's eyes that he was good enough for me
That made me really sad, so l buried my feelings yet again... and now they have all come out. I had the most intense longing for him the last few days... l was imagining him so clearly l could see him right in front of me, remember his touch. Very surreal!

So l emailed him yesterday and i'm going to go and visit him. He has broken up with his wife (2 years ago) and he is now living near her and their two children.

I've never been truly happy since left him... i've been in love but not truly truly happy until l met Mike.

I think i saw my 1st love in Mike (my ex). They are both photographers... anyway, enough. You get the picture - l am a bit confused as to what my feelings for Mike were and what my feelings for my 1st love are LOL

Here is our synastry aspect tables chart. Having a slight problem loading chart at moment!

I would be so happy if you could all just say what you see... l will post the draco too in a minute.

Thanks everyone... i'm interested in why he still is haunting my thoughts and my soul. I was so totally in love with this man, l had permanent twinkles in my eyes for the whole 5 years... but he was away so much on photography and l was only 24 years old... l got lonely

Thank you XOXOXO

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
SYNASTRY

(he is horizontally, l am vertically on aspect table


Feel free to share stories or charts about your 1st loves

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buena36
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posted July 17, 2008 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buena36     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lara,

Now I see why you have posted such a Synastry: all Asteroids couldn't come into normal Synastry Chart.
Can you post Synastry with normal planets, Juno and maybe Vertex? That could be enough for me.
I have no idea for hour of birth from my first love.

Buena

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Sure Buena, I'm sorry.


**EDITED TO ADD JUNO AND VERTEX

Not sure of his birth time... will try to get it from him

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koiflower
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posted July 17, 2008 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
welcome back Lara! I bet you're happy have a computer once again!

Will take a closer look at your aspects over the next day or two!!

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Koiflower,

I am so happy to have my computer back, thanks. I missed you all!

Thank you for offering to look... have a great weekend!

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cristiname
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posted July 17, 2008 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message
find your story fascinating!

his birthtime unknown, imp clues are unclear - his Moon, NN, Asc and MC.

intersting though the aspects to your Venuses... the stereotypes would have us expect some BIG aspects going on.

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
moon, NN are same... l know roughly what time he was born and calculated it on that.. just don't remember the exact time

No BIG aspects in our chart Cristiname?

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buena36
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posted July 17, 2008 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buena36     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lara,

As you don't have his hour of birth I am not looking Moon, AC and MC aspects.

Here is very important double trine:
Jupiter - Saturn
(that aspect have most of the couples they love each other)

as also

Saturn trine Sun: means stability.

It is very difficult to look here. I am used to see normal Synastry Chart. You can do it by Astrodienst Zurich.

Buena

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Never say never!

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 17, 2008 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
My first love... I miss her terribly...
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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 17, 2008 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lara, how did you get astro.com to display the aspects between the asteroids in the aspect table like you have? I can never get that to work. Did you pay for the service?

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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PeaceAngel
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posted July 17, 2008 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
got gem

after the synastry chart comes up in astro.com there is an option above the chart (on top of the names) that says "view additional tables (pdf)" - i think that must be it.

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 17, 2008 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
They have always looked like this for me no matter which browser I use. You see the big empty area? In Lara's, the asteroid aspects are present.

Oh yeah, this is the synastry between myself and this chick Natalie Portman that has been after me for years. I think I might give her a try. LOL

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message

sorry about that

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
GG,

you have to click on ALL ASPECTS

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
OK here are some aspects l worked out, ALL UNDER 3 deg's

NATAL-PROGRESSED:
(has anyone read 'when stars collide?')
His N sun opp my N mars (3)
His N venus quincunx my N sun (1)
His N mars opp my N mars (2)
His N mars opp my N venus (2)

His N venus trine my pr venus (3)
His N mars quincunx my pr mars (0)
His pr sun quincunx my pr sun (0)
His pr venus quincunx my n sun (2)
His pr mars trine my n venus (1)
His pr mars quincunx my n mars (2)


MAGI ASTROLOGY CAC
Geo
Sun quincunx venus – CUPID link
Sun quincunx moon
Sun conjunct Neptune – ROMANCE link
Venus quincunx sun – CUPID link
Venus quincunx mercury – COMMUNICATION link
Jupiter quincunx sun – FORGIVENESS link
Jupiter quincunx mercury – PERFECT COMMUNICATION link
Saturn trine sun – SATURN link
Uranus trine Saturn – SATURN link (and balance)
Pluto trine sun – POWER COUPLE link
Chiron quincunx Pluto – CINDERELLA link

Sun contra mars
Sun contra Pluto – POWER COUPLE link
Moon contra Neptune – ROMANCE link
Moon parallel Pluto – POWER COUPLE link
Mara contra mars – PHYSICAL link
Mars parallel Neptune – LASTING SEXUAL ATTRACTION link
Mars contra Pluto – SEXUAL link
Chiron contra venus – CINDERELLA
Chiron parallel Neptune – LIFETIME LINKAGE, CINDERELLA
Chiron parallel Jupiter – CINDERELLA link

Helio
Saturn trine Pluto – SATURN link
Chiron parallel venus – CINDERELLA link, MAGICAL link


I will put the draco ones up in a while

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 17, 2008 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, I feel stupid Lara lol!

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
so interesting Buena, thank you
So these Double Whammy's are maybe what is keeping me 'held' to him?


GG - don't... you know how long it took me to figure that one out myself? months and months lol

BTW i edited the last aspects table to add Juno and Vertex

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 17, 2008 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lara, you might already know this but since I know you like real tight orbs, you can reduce the orb factor to 40% and the aspect table will only display aspects up to 3 degrees. All synastry aspect tables look like ghost towns lol!

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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darkdreamer
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posted July 17, 2008 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

in the progressions the Mars-Venus-trine may be another reason for the sudden reappearance in your life.

However, I`m not so sure about the Jupiter-Saturn-dw. It`s pretty generational aspect. But it probably gets more importance, if it is connecte to personal planets or points (I haven`t checked that).

Also, t hat first love of yours, are you sure you really miss him or are you trying to detach emotionally from Mike?
I hope you`re not upset that I am asking this.

DD

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
DRACO


his sun opp my siva (1)
his moon trine my sun (2)
his moon trine my mercury (0)
his venus conjunct my moon/amor (0)
his venus conjunct my venus (2)
his venus trine my jupiter (1)
his venus square my vertex (2)
his venus square my valentine (2)
his venus trine my AC (4)
his mars trine my eros (0)
his jupiter sextile my moon/jupiter/amor (0)
his saturn sextile my mars/pluto/isis/MC (0)
his saturn conjunct my valentine (1)
his neptune conjunt my mars (2)
his neptune opposes his neptune (2)
his neptune trine my pluto (3)
his neptune trine my valentine )1)
his pluto sextile my mars/isis (0)
his pluto trine my neptune (3)
his pluto opp my pluto (1)
his pluto trine my valentine (0)
his chiron trine my sun/mercury (1)
his vertex opp my vertex (3)
his juno opp my siva (1)
his juno trine my eros (3)
his osiris opp my vertex (3)
his orisir sextile my isis (2)
his osiris conjunct my valentine (1)
his isis trine my chiron (0)
his isis opp my vertex (4)
his isis sextile my eros (2)
his kaali conjunct my siva (0)
his eros sextile my sun
his eros trine my juno (0) karma (1)
his psyche conjunct my jupiter (2) armor (3)
his psyche conjunct my AC (1)
his karma trine my pluto (1)
his karma conjunct my isis (2)
his karma opp my psyche (1)
his karma conjunct my MC (0)
his valentine sextile my jupiter/amor (0)


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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know DD - all l know is that l always chatted on about my 1st love when l was with Mike cos the photography thing reminded me so much of my 1st love.

I have always thought of my love but l have never before used him to break away from someone else and a few years ago, before l got married another LEO totally broke my heart!

Thing is, l always keep coming back to him in my mind and i have always missed him. WE worked together and the work side of it ended it for me cos l got bored/outgrew the work aspect... wish l had been older and wiser now.

I don't mind you asking at all.. now that l have computer back l will email you tonight too

Is it normal to have all these oppositions like neptune/neptune pluto/pluto... they are generational, no?

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted July 17, 2008 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
arent we a little old to be having revelations about who we really love. even though for some odd reason it never hit you that maybe you shouldnt have been with him in the first place think about him so much and all. woww.

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Lara
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posted July 17, 2008 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
ha SeeingStars... such a NY comment! lol

Well, in answer to your question... l was a very naive 24 year old when we broke up and i had just spent 5 years working with him in the best job in the world, as far as a photographer is concerned.

I don't think it's ever too late to have revelations, is it? DIdn't all the great spiritual masters have revelations up until their deaths?, implying that we never stop learning, expanding and growing

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darkdreamer
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posted July 17, 2008 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I don`t think we are ever to old to have revelations about anything.

Lara,

only you can know if you REALLY want your 1st love back.
But I just see a certain risk that you try to get back some happiness, now that you had to experience this pain and disappointment.

It just feels too quick to me, you know?

But honestly, only you can know what you feel.

I can only judge from my own experiences. And I do have the tendency to fall back onto my 1st love, the memory of it, the paradise-like feelings, whenever I kinda "hit a wall". When I am disappointed or scared to move on or something like this. It`s become some kind of safety net to me. I`m over it now, but it has been some kind of pattern.

But I`m only talking about my experience. Maybe yours is totally different, and he really has been your true love. Sometimes 1st loves come back, when both people have matured and I recently read an article, how it can actually work.

DD

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