posted July 17, 2008 02:41 PM         

So what say you knowflakes!

posted July 17, 2008 03:09 PM         

I have an iPhone too. May I ask what the application is and I'll try it out

posted July 17, 2008 04:07 PM         

I its under the Entertainment category in the App store. You have OS version 2.0 installed on your phone right?

posted July 18, 2008 09:55 AM           

i don't know much about tarot except what i learnt from the book of rachel pollack. http://www.amazon.com/Seventy-Eight-Degrees-Wisdom-Rachel-Pollack/dp/0722535724

she's really good at explaining the different views on tarot (those who use it for divination purposes and those who use only the major arcana and use it to understand archetypes).
on top of this, she gives in this book an interpretation for each cards.

you get me, i think she's really good. her book is clear, really spot on and she knows what she's talking about, not only from a limited tarot' specialist perspective but from a wider occult perspective.

posted July 18, 2008 11:23 AM         

For so long, I have always knew that Lucifer was considered the "Sun of The Morning." Which is really Venus.

Check this:

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http://www.lds-mormon.com/lucifer.shtml

Why Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King").

The scholars authorized by ... King James I to translate the Bible into current English did not use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated ... largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and --- ironically --- the Prince of Darkness.

So "Lucifer" is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light. That can be confusing for Christians who identify Christ himself as the morning star, a term used as a central theme in many Christian sermons. Jesus refers to himself as the morning star in Revelation 22:16: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

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So my challenge I guess is to look at it from the "evil" perspective instead of the orginal, unperversed meaning since everytime I see a pic of the devil or a pentagram, I think of Venus and how its orbit traces a rose or pentagram in the sky.

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posted July 18, 2008 12:31 PM         

If you did, it involves making a decision and releasing you both from the devil's chains. When things are not right in one's life it seems as if the devil is amongst us... there are lots of different representations for this card but this is what l immediately thought of when l look at it, from your perspective.

It is a rebirth of individuality and a death of duality through releasing each other.

posted July 18, 2008 01:56 PM         

That is an interesting interp you made though!

posted July 18, 2008 02:14 PM         

Then, shuffle them and fan them out on the table, using your LEFT hand only. Run your LEFT hand over them and pick out 5 cards.

Place them in a row with the 1st card you pulled out, first.

Then read them as such -
http://www.angelpaths.com/spreads.html#action

posted July 18, 2008 02:15 PM         

http://www.angelpaths.com/spreads6.htm

posted July 18, 2008 02:23 PM         

*edit* Oh, and personally I really like the Celtic Cross spread

posted July 18, 2008 02:51 PM         

agree with that's important to handle the cards with care

posted July 18, 2008 07:32 PM           

ok, i guess i'm allowed to post now. may i just add my contribution to the ongoing discussion. it's good to be back here in LINDALAND!!! i was formerly KISMETKAIZEN here. i have been a professional astrologer and tarot reader for 5 years now. all i can say from my experience with the TAROT, having counseled hundreds of clients now, both in the PHILIPPINES when i was still living there (i lived there for practically all my life until i migrated to the USA in 2004) and here in Hayward/east bay, CA, is that TAROT goes beyond mere "fortune telling." TAROT is actually a powerful tool for PROBLEM-SOLVING and CATHARSIS.

for example, one turn of a single pivotal card and i can gently say to a client,"Please tell me more about your father...," and out comes all these feelings, this guilt, recriminations, pent-up regrets, frustrations, or whatever complicated emotions may arise as the case may be, depending on the particular client's situation. an effective and compassionate tarot reader can uncover in 15 minutes of a tarot session what years of a psychotherapy-in-a-staid-office-setting may not. it all really depends on the dynamics or chemistry between the reader and the readee, too.

well, ive had my humble say. please feel free to ask me your questions. please also feel free to visit my blog where i post a weekly horoscope column, which i write for an a Filipino-American weekly newspaper (yes, an actual, not virtual paper) in the East Bay area of Northern California called the MANILA MAIL NEWSPAPER. my blog:
http://pilipinasblitzforever.blogspot.com

Blessed be!