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darkdreamer
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posted July 29, 2008 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Did you see this site, where they look at planets in the same numerical degree in synastry?
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/compatibility-love-horoscopes.html

For example in my natal I have Sun and Mercury on the same degree (25° Sagittarius); it basically means there are absolute exact aspects (conjunction, opposition, square, trine, sextile, quinkunx and semisextile).


I tried that method out with my parents and it really made awfully much sense; they have some Mercury-placements on same degrees (like Mercury and Venus for ex.) and they have still lots to talk about after over 30 years of marriage. The fact that my mum`s Venus and my dad`s ASC is on 18° Virgo may be the reason that they are still holding hands.


I applied that method to my synastry with Jude Law (because you know how astounding this synstry is; it doesn`t matter what new method I try, I will find some important connections between our charts. )


His Sun and my Venus on 7° (Capricorn and Sagittarius)
The Sun partner motivates the Ascendant. The Ascendant becomes more self-confident by this mutual contact through the Sun person.


His NN and my Saturn on 16° (Capricorn and Cancer)
This contact is very limiting and frustrating. Controlling Saturn will dampen the helpful Node, holding him/her down. The North Node will have no freedom and will be restricted


his Neptune and my Venus on 6° (Sagittarius and Capricorn)
This combination may indicate a platonic relationship between soulmates. Indeed this contact may indicate a soul match. Sometimes Neptune points to an unrequited love too. Both planets signify a tender and sensitive kind of love.


his Pluto and my MC on 4° (Libra)
Pluto gets a grip on the career or goal of the MC person

his ASC and my Neptune on 9° (Sagittarius)
In compatibility love horoscopes, the Neptune-Ascendant contact can indicate a very devoted and romantic relationship -- on condition that Saturn, Uranus or Pluto are not posited in the same degree. Mind though that Neptune also indicates disillusions!
( well my Pluto is on the same degree)

his ASC and my Pluto on 9° (Sagittarius and Libra)
This is a contact of power and manipulation. Pluto dominates the relationship, the Ascendant partner has to submit him/herself. Venus in the same (numerical) degree gives this combination a VERY obsessive sexual overtone.


his ASC and my mean NN on 9° (Sagittarius)
This combination seems to indicate a fatal attraction. As always, the Ascendant partner is the follower, the Node in the lead. Most of all, this contact indicates a one-way direction in which the North Node does the job, the loving, the helping...

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posted July 29, 2008 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
And in the case with my long time emotionally disastrous crush:


his Sun and my Saturn on 16° (Aries, Cancer)
The Saturn partner sticks to the Sun partner. Both partners want a 'family'. Saturn can be controlling, though. Mind if there is another planetary contact to this combination because this can be really very bad! Especially if Mars, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto are involved, this multiple combination can get a disaster, to be absolutely avoided in compatibility love horoscopes!


his NN and my Saturn on 16° (Leo and Cancer)
This contact is very limiting and frustrating. Controlling Saturn will dampen the helpful Node, holding him/her down. The North Node will have no freedom and will be restricted.


his Mercury and my ASC on 7° (Aries, Sagittarius)
The Mercury partner wants to talk to the Ascendant partner.


his pluto and my ASC on 7° (Virgo, Sagittarius)
This is a contact of power and manipulation. Pluto dominates the relationship, the Ascendant partner has to submit him/herself. Venus in the same (numerical) degree gives this combination a VERY obsessive sexual overtone.
(Venus is actually on 6°; and his Karma is also on 7°)

his Saturn and my NN on 9° (Aquarius, Sagittarius)
This contact is very limiting and frustrating. Controlling Saturn will dampen the helpful Node, holding him/her down. The North Node will have no freedom and will be restricted.

his Saturn and my Neptune on 9° (Aquarius, SAgittarius)
As most contacts with Saturn, this one is not favorable too. There is illness, sorrow and/or disagreement. According to the Saturn partner, Neptune is too elusive and cannot be trusted. In compatibility love horoscopes, this contact seldom promotes close relationships.


his Saturn and my Pluto on 9° (Aquarius, Libra)
A Saturn-Pluto combination is one of a frustrating and bitter halt. Not recommended! Also, it may indicate a severe illness of the Pluto person.


Can you feel the frustration just by reading those few placements?


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posted July 29, 2008 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, and I also did one for the guy, I just can`t get out of my mind.

his Mercury and my Npetune on 9° (Sagittarius)
In compatibility love horoscopes you will often find unclear thinking and misunderstandings.
- oh I just realized, both planets represent the 7th and 1st houses in our charts; another interaction between those houses.

his Mercury and my Pluto on 9° (Sagittarius, Libra)
The Pluto partner causes nuisance. Obsessive thoughts - thinking about one another. Jupiter in the same (numerical) degree gives the Mercury-Pluto contact a most beneficial overtone.


his Mercury and my mean NN on 9° (Sagittarius)
in compatibility love horoscopes this contact indicates mutual intellectual interests.

his Mars and my Jupiter on 11° (Virgo and Pisces)
Both fiery planets can indicate a very stimulating relationship with a lot of things to do

his NN and my Uranus on 1° (Virgo, Scorpio)
This exciting combination can bring some unusual results. Unusual (and short-lived) love affairs are indicated in the compatibility love horoscopes.

his Jupiter and my True NOde on 10° (Virgo and Sagittarius)
Here we have a wonderful and most enjoyable combination. In compatibility love horoscopes it is one of understanding and mutual respect. The Jupiter partner can bring some fortune to the North Node.

his Venus and my Mercury on 25° (Capricorn, Sagittarius)
Both partners love 'discussions', exchanging (lovely) words, and... little presents....
-Venus rules his 7th house and Mercury rules my 7th house


His Venus and my Sun on 25° (Capricorn, Sagittarius)
Venus will love the Sun. The love of Venus will let the Sun person shine brighter. In compatibility love horoscopes, this can be a contact of devotion and affection

HOw are your results with the "same-degree-method". Anything interesting? Telling?
OH BTW in the Davison Venus and Pluto both are on 6° (Taurus and Libra); I wonder if that method is applicable for composite and Davison, too?

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posted July 29, 2008 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Hi DD..

This is an interesting topic,we learn many things from you,thanks.

here are the results between me and my bf.

his sun and my venus

his venus and my saturn

his NN and my jupiter

his NN and my mercury

his saturn and my asc

his PF and my asc

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posted July 29, 2008 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
I also checked that whith my ex-bf. We've got the same degrees (often in different signs) with these:

- our respective CERES (1°)
- his SUN and my BM Lilith (24°)
- his MOON and my IC/MC (19°)
Moon and MC: The Moon partner tries to influence the life goals, career drive etc... of the MC partner. (Yes, he did.)
- his VENUS and my ASC/DSC (27°)
Venus and Ascendant: Venus can change the way the Ascendant partner dresses, Venus can beautify the environment of the Ascendant partner. (I'd say it was exactly the other way 'round)
- his MARS and my ASC/DSC (27°)
Mars and Ascendant: This combination can be critical. The Ascendant partner is too vulnerable for the Mars partner. Mars attacks the Ascendant partner making this relationship a battlefield. (Yup!)
- his JUPITER and my PLUTO (25°)
Jupiter and Pluto: Powerful Pluto always dominates the other partner, so here, with Jupiter, it's no exception. Jupiter may have a lot of ideas, though this does not mean that Pluto agrees. And if Pluto says 'NO', it is NO. (At the end I said "no", and it is "no". Apart from that ... he always had the upper hand.)
- his URANUS and my PALLAS (13°)
- his NEPTUNE and my AMOR (17°)
- his JUNO and my URANUS (5°)
- his ASC and my MC (19°)
Ascendant and MC: Chances are that both partners have met as co-workers. (We met via the Internet/Computer, during work hours, yet.)

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posted July 29, 2008 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
My girlfriend's Sun is on my Mercury; same sign and degree.

Both of our Moons are at 29 degrees; perfectly square. Her MC is also at 29 degrees.

My Mars and her Jupiter are at 27 degrees in different unrelated signs.

My Pluto and her NN are at 4 degrees in an Air trine.

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posted July 30, 2008 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
AG and Venusmars,

would you say that these connections represent your relationship in a way or reflect the "tone" of it?
In Alvarella`s case that seems to hold true, if I interprete it right.


I have looked some further and also applied the Draconic positions.

With my unrequited crush:

his dr Mercury, my dr Uranus (21°)
The Uranus partner 'electrifies' the thinking of the Mercury partner. Uranus disrupts the communication.

his dr Venus, my Moon (17°)
Venus and the Moon bring artistic creativity. This combination may promote laziness. This is a combination making everything 'soft'. Both partners have Family Love and can understand one another. This combo indicates (a profound) sympathy.
- well I think there is sympathy, mostly on my side of course; and the hint about artistic creativity is really good

his dr Mars, my MC (4°)
Mars will push your career or goals to new heights, or depths...
- well, maybe not my career, but he influenced my perception of life greatly; he also inspired me to become creative myself

his dr Jupiter, my SAturn (16°)
This contact may be a stabilizing factor in any relationship, BUT, especially in compatibility love horoscopes, this combination is not that good, unless there are other beneficial combinations. The Saturn person can be restricting and blocking the ideas and drive of the Jupiter partner.


his dr Uranus, my NN (9°)
This exciting combination can bring some unusual results. Unusual (and short-lived) love affairs are indicated in the compatibility love horoscopes.
- not shortlived, but electrifying; he made me aware of in what direction I really wanted and needed to go; and always surprising, like a bolt out of the blue he crosses my path now and then; but when I expect him to do so, he never shows up. Unpredictable in its purest form.

his dr Neptune, my dr ASC:
In compatibility love horoscopes, the Neptune-Ascendant contact can indicate a very devoted and romantic relationship -- on condition that Saturn, Uranus or Pluto are not posited in the same degree. Mind though that Neptune also indicates disillusions!


And with Jude there are following connections

his dr Moon, my Jupiter
The Jupiter partner may promote well-being to the Moon. The Moon partner feels very well with Jupiter because the emotions can be freely expressed. The Moon partner feels emotionally satisfied by Jupiter.
- I think Jupiter may act as the "fan" to whatever planet he touches, because he is so enthusiastic and encouraging, so I guess that sounds right

his dr Venus, my dr ASC
Venus can change the way the Ascendant partner dresses, Venus can beautify the environment of the Ascendant partner.
- I actually think that this intepretation is a bit superficial

his dr Saturn, my dr Pluto
A Saturn-Pluto combination is one of a frustrating and bitter halt. Not recommended! Also, it may indicate a severe illness of the Pluto person.
- it ties in with some "dreams" I`ve had,w ell, nightmares actually

his dr Uranus, my Mars
If you want a fight, a conflict, an accident or some other unpredictable events, then this combination has it all. Only the presence of Jupiter in the same degree too makes this a beneficial combination. The Mars-Uranus combo can be quite explosive at times.
- no Jupiter present

his dr Pluto, my Moon
Pluto is about power, domination, fanatism and obesssion. The sensitive Moon cannot cope with such intense forces... Pluto can be obsessed to the Moon partner, upsetting the relationship.
- I don`t get it, in almost every synastric method he ends up playing the Pluto, and I just don`t get this vibe about him

his dr MC, my dr Uranus
In compatibility love horoscopes the Uranus partner may shake the goals and life direction of the MC partner.


his Mars, my dr Neptune
The Neptune partner may be delusive, sapping the energy from the Mars partner
- Actually it`s quite fitting for the synastry with a moviestar, isn`t it? Neptune as symbol for glamour, dreams and illusions

his Jupiter, my Moon
The Jupiter partner may promote well-being to the Moon. The Moon partner feels very well with Jupiter because the emotions can be freely expressed. The Moon partner feels emotionally satisfied by Jupiter.
- hey we have that twice, some sort of double whammy maybe?

his Saturn, my dr Sun
The Saturn partner sticks to the Sun partner. Both partners want a 'family'. Saturn can be controlling, though. Mind if there is another planetary contact to this combination because this can be really very bad! Especially if Mars, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto are involved, this multiple combination can get a disaster, to be absolutely avoided in compatibility love horoscopes!
- I don`t get it. I can`t escape this aspect. It is ALWAYS there, usually it`s an exact or very close square between Sun and Saturn (this time it is an sextile from Gemini to Aries); But I don`t understand why it appears so often in my synastries. I don`t have a very strong Saturn; it is retograde in Cancer in 8th house and is only exactly inconjunct Moon; it`s the only planet on the right side of the chart, but still that doesn`t really explain why this synastric aspect seems to be always there. BTW the Sun-Saturn aspects seem to happen most often with men, whereas with my female friends I often share a Moon-Saturn-aspect.


his Neptune, my dr Moon
In compatibility love horoscopes, both sensitive planets can bring disappointment for the Neptune partner. Perhaps the Moon partner is already married or there may be unrequited love... There is idealizing and emotionalizing. Platonic love.
- jup, more glamour, illusions, dreams - as if I need that! But it fits I think.

his Neptune, my dr Saturn
As most contacts with Saturn, this one is not favorable too. There is illness, sorrow and/or disagreement. According to the Saturn partner, Neptune is too elusive and cannot be trusted. In compatibility love horoscopes, this contact seldom promotes close relationships.
- well, since the Draco or nodal chart represents issues on a very deep soullevel, even with regard to past lives, I can certainly say, that something must have gone horribly wrong in a previous life.


his NN, my Moon
The North Node partner can be helpful to the Moon
- again I think this interpretation may be a tad superficial

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posted July 30, 2008 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
and with that other guy I have:

his dr Sun, my Sun
When both Suns are in the same degree, these people will often encounter one another. This is, in itself, a neutral combination.
- lol I hope so

his dr Sun, my Mercury
The Mercury partner loves to talk to the Sun partner.
- well, yes, but only if I gather enough courage

his dr Sun, my dr Venus
Venus will love the Sun. The love of Venus will let the Sun person shine brighter. In compatibility love horoscopes, this can be a contact of devotion and affection.
- interesting, we have that contact in reversed form in tropical, too.

his dr Sun, my dr Mars
This combination depends on the sex of the partners. If the Sun partner is a female and the Mars partner is a male, there is sexual attraction. The Mars partner tries to impose the Sun partner. Mars initiates the sexual act, takes the initiative. Both planets are masculine and active, always energizing the relationship. In some rare cases, Mars - the Warrior - may brutalize the Sun, upsetting the relationship. Mars can be quite pushy in the eyes of the Sun partner.
- you know what? I`m really fed up with the astrological chauvinism sometimes.

his dr Mercury, my ASC
The Mercury partner wants to talk to the Ascendant partner.
- well if I love to talk to him (Mercury-Sun) and he wants to talk to me, maybe we manage to do this again one day

his dr Mars, my Neptune
The Neptune partner may be delusive, sapping the energy from the Mars partner.
- sorry, I didn`t mean to

his dr Mars, my Pluto
In compatibility love horoscopes, this contact may promote a lot of mutual projects and working together.
- there`s yet another level of interpretation for Mars-Pluto-contacts, isn`t there?

his dr Mars, my NN
In compatibility love horoscopes this combination indicates a working together (on the same project or as co-workers,...), though the Node has to endure what Mars initiates. So, if Mars initiates the wrong things or acts the wrong way, the Node partner will be damaged!
- oh that sounds great *being sarcastic*

his dr Saturn, my Sun
The Saturn partner sticks to the Sun partner. Both partners want a 'family'. Saturn can be controlling, though. Mind if there is another planetary contact to this combination because this can be really very bad! Especially if Mars, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto are involved, this multiple combination can get a disaster, to be absolutely avoided in compatibility love horoscopes!
- ah there it is again, MY Saturn-Sun-connection (trine this time, but we also share the square in the tropical synastry with only 1° orb; I told you, I can`t escape that aspect)

his dr Saturn, my Mercury
Saturn is about duty and structure. Saturn is far too serious for airy Mercury.
- not really, no.


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posted July 30, 2008 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
his dr Saturn, my dr Mars
In compatibility love horoscopes, this is a contact you better try to avoid. Saturn is too strict, too controlling. Mars will get frustrated. It sometimes indicates hate at first sight!
- hmm, I heartily disagree. Not because of wishful thinking. But I have seen that aspect too often in long lasting relationships; A gay couple has this aspect and they have been together for over 12 years, my parents have that aspect as DW, one of those aspects being on the same degree, and have been sticking together for about 35 years now.
I rather think that Mars sometimes NEEDS Saturn`s structure, and Saturn needs a bit of Mars` enthusiasm and drive.
Of course Saturn at times can put a real damper on Mars, and Mars is much too impatient with Saturn.

his dr Saturn, my dr Venus
Dutiful Saturn can bring responsability to the loving Venus. This combination may indicate a relationship of convenience and of sorrow.
- another same degree aspect, my parents also share, and sure, their live has not been sunshine and rainbows all along, but I wouldn`t call it a relationship of "convenience and sorrow".

his dr AC, my dr Uranus
This is a most exciting contact putting the Uranus partner in the better position. The Ascendant partner follows the erratic and adventurous behavior of Uranus

his dr MC, my dr ASC
Chances are that both partners have met as co-workers.
- does work-environment also counts?


his Sun, my dr ASC
The Sun partner motivates the Ascendant. The Ascendant becomes more self-confident by this mutual contact through the Sun person.
- yes, that is true.

his Moon, my dr Pluto
Pluto is about power, domination, fanatism and obesssion. The sensitive Moon cannot cope with such intense forces... Pluto can be obsessed to his Moon partner, upsetting the relationship.

his Saturn, my dr ASC
The Saturn partner takes the lead and wants to control the Ascendant partner. In compatibility love horoscopes this contact can be tricky: Saturn prevents the Ascendant from socializing, resulting in frustration. Saturn may be too strict.


his NN, my dr Jupiter
Here we have a wonderful and most enjoyable combination. In compatibility love horoscopes it is one of understanding and mutual respect. The Jupiter partner can bring some fortune to the North Node.

- again some sort of double whammy, since we have the reserved contact in the tropical


his Venus, my dr Venus
This contact is of minor importance. It may indicate some common artistic and creative interests.
- why is it minor? I have found Venus-Venus-aspects to be quite beautiful

his Venus, my dr Mars
In compatibility love horoscopes, this can be a (very) magic combination, especially when Venus in the female horoscope is in the same degree as Mars in a male horoscope. Both partners are sexually attracted to one another. When Uranus or Pluto are involved, the sexual attraction is totally irresistible! This contact is a very good start for any love relationship.
- who doesn`t like to read this?


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posted July 30, 2008 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
DARKDREAMER: Yes, these descriptions seem to work in a rough way ... that's at least what I tried to research. Good idea ton include the Draco-placements. I'll add the ones for the ex-bf-relationship too:

- his dr. MARS same dg. as my dr. SUN
Sun and Mars: This combination depends on the sex of the partners. If the Sun partner is a female and the Mars partner is a male, there is sexual attraction. The Mars partner tries to impose the Sun partner. Mars initiates the sexual act, takes the initiative. Both planets are masculine and active, always energizing the relationship. In some rare cases, Mars - the Warrior - may brutalize the Sun, upsetting the relationship. Mars can be quite pushy in the eyes of the Sun partner. (100% true!)
(((((We also have: my dr. MARS same dg. his natal SUN - but the other way 'round, as sketched above, makes more sense to me.))))

- his dr. MARS same dg. as my natal NEPTUNE
Mars and Neptune: The Neptune partner may be delusive, sapping the energy from the Mars partner. (Me, being Neptune, I felt it the other way 'round...)

- his dr. SATURN same dg. as my natal URANUS
Saturn and Uranus: In compatibility love horoscopes, we have found this a most disruptive combination. The Uranus person cannot live his/her own (progressive and innovative) ideas. Conservative Saturn doesn't like and appreciate the erratic behavior of Uranus. (Yup - he always accused me of showing off my "independence" - although I was completely emersed in this relationship. He was frightened by my individuality - although THIS was what he seemed to have fallen in love with at the first place.)

- his dr. ASC same dg. as my natal URANUS
Uranus and Ascendant: This is a most exciting contact putting the Uranus partner in the better position. The Ascendant partner follows the erratic and adventurous behavior of Uranus. (I guess, my Uranian qualities did widen his horizons a bit ...)

- my dr. JUPITER same dg. as his natal MERCURY
Mercury and Jupiter: Philosophical Jupiter broadens Mercury's outlook. (Yes, I think I opened new gates to him, mentally - but he could barely cope with that.)

- my dr. SATURN same dg. as his natal PLUTO
Saturn and Pluto: A Saturn-Pluto combination is one of a frustrating and bitter halt. Not recommended! Also, it may indicate a severe illness of the Pluto person. (Well yes ... I felt increasingly uncomfortable, totally stifled ... and finally left - with much emotional/mental suffering involved - until I recuperated...)

FASCINATING!

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posted July 30, 2008 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Alvarella,

I think for the interpretation we have to take into account also:

1. other planets, that are also on the same degree

2. the signs the planets are in

Also, a Sun can be terribly domineering, and if I think of a Sun being in Aries and a Mars being in Pisces or Libra, I think the Sun-owner may come across pushier as the Mars-owner in that example.

Or, if the Sun-owner also has Pluto on the same degree, or the Mars-onwer has Neptune on the same degree, I think that The sun will be more manipulative and pushy then the Mars-person.

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posted July 30, 2008 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
DD,
my relationship is new so the only aspect I really feel is sun-venus thing at the moment.

I also checked draco-draco.Not much aspects..
my moon-his jupiter
my moon-his PF

But if we do draco-tropical.
his dr jup-my NN
his dr ura-my mercury
his dr ura-my jup
his dr plu-my mercury
his dr pluto-my jup
and
my dr sun-his moon
my dr.mars -his saturn

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posted July 30, 2008 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Have you checked out the back issues of the lvoe newsletter on cosmitech?

I`m completely fascinated with asessing the compatibility and attraction-thing.
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/CosmiTecs_Love_Letter-backissues.html

"Attraction is often defined as "the electric or magnetic force exerted by oppositely charged particles, tending to draw or hold the particles together."

Compatibility is often defined as "the capability of two or more items or components of equipment or material to exist or function in the same system or environment without mutual interference."

"Whenever there is an electric force, there is a magnetic force, meaning that there should always be two opposite forces at work (a north pole and a south pole, a positive or male force and a negative or female one, day and night, black and white, Yin and Yang,...).

In astrology this magnetic force can be found when two planets of the opposite sex are brought together.

The Sun, Mars and Jupiter are male or positive forces.
The Moon, Venus and Neptune are female or negative forces.
Whenever the Sun, Mars or Jupiter of one person "meets" the Moon, Venus or Neptune of the other partner, there may be magnetism and attraction"


"We also told you that attraction is primarily related to (some specific) planetary combinations, whereas compatibility is rather related to the signs (and the houses)."


"Even if we don't like rating systems that much, there is one system that we, at CosmiTec, use to give a general impression on basic (in)compatibility because it's quite simple and reliable.

It's the system in which we assign a weight to the planets in the signs using the following scores:

the Sun, Moon, Ascendant and MC get 3 points
Mercury, Venus and Mars get 2 points
Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto get 1 point"

" Aside from the elemental analysis, we even go a step further and use the same system to analyze the "Qualities" (cardinal, fixed or mutable):

Cardinal signs are Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn
Fixed signs are Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius
Mutable signs are Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces "

"And here then comes the final compatibility analysis:


take the element with the highest score
take the quality with the highest score
blend the element and quality together so that you get the related zodiac sign. Use the following list or table:
Aries = Cardinal Fire
Taurus = Fixed Earth
Gemini = Mutable Air
Cancer = Cardinal Water
Leo = Fixed Fire
Virgo = Mutable Earth
Libra = Cardinal Air
Scorpio = Fixed Water
Sagittarius = Mutable Fire
Capricorn = Cardinal Earth
Aquarius = Fixed Air
Pisces = Mutable Water "


"Compatibility between two people exists when the resulting signs are compatible or match (they should conjunct, sextile or trine another). If they square or oppose another, the compatibility is lesser. In case the zodiac signs are inconjunct one another there is basic incompatibility (even if there is irresistible attraction!). "

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posted July 30, 2008 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
"In our August Issue we defined attraction as "a magnetic impulse pulling or drawing two or more people together."

We only have magnetism when there is electricity and we only have electricity when there are two opposite poles (male and female, day and night, yang and yin, positive and negative, giving and receiving, ...)."

"When "masculine" or positive points "see" "feminine" or negative points, there is attraction.

Masculine points are the Ascendant, the Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Uranus
Feminine points are the Moon, Venus and Neptune "

(I`m not so sure about Uranus being masculine though, to me Uranus is more neutral and intellectual as Mercury is; however a contact between Uranus and Moon or Venus in synastry can be really electrifying)

"When do these points "see" one another in astrology?

Well now, there are three important ways that should be considered:

the aspects (especially when the points or planets are at the same degree)
midpoints
antiscia and contrantiscia "
- yeah, antiscia, solstice points. I knew it!

"Whenever a positive or masculine point (the Ascendant for example) "sees" a negative or feminine point (the Moon for example) in any of the three listed ways, there is attraction, electricity and a magnetic impulse pulling together."

"Some planetary combinations are more magnetic than others, bringing attraction to an almost irresistible force.

What are these irresistible planetary combinations?

ASPECTS

Venus conjunct Mars (or Venus at the same degree as Mars)
Venus conjunct or opposite Uranus (or Venus at the same degree as Uranus)
Venus or the Moon conjunct or opposite the Ascendant (or Venus or the Moon at the same degree as the Ascendant)
MIDPOINTS

any combination between Venus, Mars and Uranus
any combination between the Sun, Moon and Mars
any combination between the Moon, Venus and Mars
any combination between the Sun, Venus and Mars
ANTISCIA

Venus (contr)antiscion Mars
Venus (contr)antiscion Uranus
Venus or the Moon (contr)antiscion the Ascendant"

"It's always best when masculine planets and points in a male's chart "see" feminine points in the female chart"
- I DISAGREE. But I have to disagree, I have a highly masculine chart I guess, with Sun, Mars and ASC in SAgittarius and Moon in Aquarius and only Venus in Capricorn. However, I think the feminine points / planets reflect more the receptive part, while the masculine planets represent the active part,t he one who will take the intitiative. Of course in our society it still seems more "appropriate", if the man gets active. But what does my MOon in Aquarius and my Sun in Sagittarius and my ASC in Sagittarius, which conjuncts my Mars, what do those placement care for what is "appropriate"?

I actually think you could risk a glance at the natal chart to see, if someone speaks more to the receptive or active planets. In my example, it seems very probable that my masculine planets will be triggered and have an effect on me.
In the case of Jude Law for example, he has some kind of a rather "feminine" chart, with Sun in Capricorn, Moon in Libra, Venus in SAgittarius but conjunct Neptune and ASC in Sag, but conjunct Venus and Neptune.
Not very likely that he "actively" "hunts".
(Of course in his case it`s a bit of a mix like in most cases, as he has Venus and ASC in male SAgittarius and Mars in Scorpio; even though Scorpio is a receptive sign, well, we all know that SCorpio can be very masculine due to Mars ancient rulership).

"According to some astrologers, the position of the Sun or the Moon in the 7th house of the partner, brings attraction too. We have found this to be correct, but the planetary aspects are more powerful though.

In our opinion the Moon in the first house of the partner seems to be more important than it's position in the 7th house."

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posted July 30, 2008 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I applied that method to a synastry of mine; on the site they prefer a 1° orb, but I think others may be relevant, too.
Also, they use the major aspects and semisquare and sesisquare; I glanced at the quintiles, too, because according to WEstran`s research the quintile aspect seems to play a certain role in synastry, too.


Compatibility:

Both of us have a dominance of mutable Fire - so Sagittarius. I guess, that means we would be compatible, maybe a bit too similiar though.

Attraction:

his Venus / Mars squares my Moon (1,5)
my Moon / Venus semisquares his Mars (0,5) (and also conjuncts his Venus)

my Sun conjuncts his Moon (2,5)
my Sun semisextile his Venus (0) - same degree
my Sun square his DC (3)
my Mars antiscia his Venus (1)
my Jupiter semisquare his Venus (0)
my Jupiter quintile his Moon (1)
my Mars quintile his DC (0)

his Mars trine my Venus (5)
his Jupiter trine my Venus (4)
- even though these may be really too wide
his Mars square my Neptune (1)
his Jupiter square my DC (3)

my Uranus sextile his Moon (3)
his Uranus semisquare my Venus (2)

I`m a bit hesitant to include Jupiter and Neptune here, though.

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posted July 30, 2008 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
AG and Venusmars,
would you say that these connections represent your relationship in a way or reflect the "tone" of it?

Sun and Mercury
The Mercury partner loves to talk to the Sun partner.

This is a conjunction by sign as well, so communication is generally pretty easy between us. Often when we're ready to get off the phone one or both of us will suddenly think of something else we'd wanted to make mention of.

Moon and Moon
When both Moons are in the same degree in the compatibility love horoscopes, you may both have the same emotional cycles. This combination is, in itself, a neutral combination (and can be positive or negative).

Nothing real noticable in this one. It is quite possible for us to be feeling different ways from one another. If I'm depressed it doesn't mean that she's also depressed, and vice versa.

Moon and MC
The Moon partner tries to influence the life goals, career drive etc... of the MC partner.

False. I don't try to influence her life goals. I can tell you that she's told me that she wants to change jobs, and I've sent her job announcements that I think she would like based on interests she's expressed to me, but I don't do that to influence her. I do that, because I'm very service oriented. She disregards them anyway for some reason.

Our composite has a 10th house stellium, too, and neither of us has enjoyed any career bounce as a result of our relationship.

Mars and Jupiter
Both fiery planets can indicate a very stimulating relationship with a lot of things to do.

I can see this. It's not pronounced, but if we had more means we'd be going to a lot more functions, concerts, etc.

Pluto and North Node
Dominating Pluto will enjoy power plays with the Node doing more harm than good.

Of all the relationships I've ever had, this one has the least power struggles. If we get bogged down in indecision, I will press for a resolution. we're both quite mutable. She's a Mutable Sun with Cardinal rising, and I'm the reverse.

_______________________


So overall, I would say "No" to it reflecting the tone.

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posted July 30, 2008 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
AG,

well, I want to be honest; I don`t think all the interpretations of the planetary symbolism on that site are really "spot on".
For example: Moon and MC to me is not so much an "influencing" thing, but more that the Moon supports the MC-partner in his life-goals,w hich are not exclusively job-oriented.
The MC is more than job and career, even though it CAN signify that, too.

However, you showing her those announcements, shows that you support her and try to help her in this regard, too.


Pluto - NN. Well, it`s not everything so bad, as it`s painted there. I guess the Pluto-partner could have a very transformative influence on the NN-partner`s (spiritual) development.
Besides Pluto intensifies and also acts like a very binding energy, so it could denote a very deep and profound relationship, that will influence both partners immensely.

DD

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posted July 30, 2008 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Fascinating, DD. I wonder if numerology could possibly play a role in planetary degrees?

27 is my favorite number. It's the double name number for both dream guy and I. Here are the planetary numerical connections with that number:

His asteroid of my first name
His asteroid of my last name
His Pallas
My Venus

Yowza!
Great topic...keep em comin!

8th

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posted July 30, 2008 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I wondered about that numerology-thing, too.

The thing is, we have a LOT going on on 25°:

my Sun, my Mercury, my dr Mars, my dr Venus
his Psyche, his Venus, his dr Saturn and I don`t know what else.

And coincidentally I´ve seen him on the 25th july.

Another thing I realized is that I´ve seen him for the first time on 3rd june, and his birthday number is a 3, while mine is a 33 (6).

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posted July 31, 2008 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with your response to me.

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