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JMommaSlim
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posted July 31, 2008 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JMommaSlim     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't been on here in a looooonnnnnng time. So first I'd like to say hello to everyone... So, HELLO!!! (lol).

I just needed to vent.

I've (11-12-1981)been talking to this virgo guy (9-17-79) for almost 8 months now (we meet Dec 1, 2007) and while he has told me he loves me (have yet to believe it) it's still the pushing an pulling....... I'm still hanging in there though... if not talking to him (him calling/texing and me not responding) for 2-3 days and then finally giving in and calling him back.... is hanging in there.... Oh well! If it lasts it lasts.... if not.... Who knows!! Thanks for listening... or should I say reading :O)

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wheelsofcheese
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posted July 31, 2008 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message

Welcome!

Welcome!

Welcome!

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amowls
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posted July 31, 2008 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
Who's doing the pushing and pulling?

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Mama Mia
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posted July 31, 2008 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I know how Virgo men are..Its hard for them to love with their hearts..They are mental creatures and is better with intellectual bonds, how ever if they feel for you emotionally and they have not learned how to let go with it they will push and pull you..What you do is be still do not let him push and pull you..Do you know what you want from this relationship?? IF so then be still and patience is a virtue with them as well..Once they balance things out( don't know how long that might take, its a individual thing) its a go from there..They are very dependable and service duty that is how they show love..Most of them are very financial secure or working their way to being. Bills will always be paid they will always take care of home..On hands kind of guys..This is how they show love..Ask me how I know??? LOL!!!

Two more things...Virgo and Scorps are the ultimate compatiable together..And also they don't mind a girl leading them...Thats why I said be still and asked you if you knew what you wanted..Be gentle and lead him there..Patience plays a big part here..They deal with some natural insecurites and they analyze to much so that adds to the push and pull.( i.e am I or am I not good enough for her)

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JMommaSlim
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posted July 31, 2008 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JMommaSlim     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I do know what I want. I love him and he knows. It's just through the 8 months we've had a few problems. I've met his parents (his mom said I remind her of her-self, I just hope that was a good thing :O)), but I haven't met his 3 year old daughter yet (I have a 5 year old who adores him). I see him maybe 2-3 times out the month (we live about 25 minutes from each other), but I talk to him over text or email all the time.... we tend to both like our space, but am in heaven when we're together. When we get physical ;O) it is AMAZING!!! Me being a Scorpio it is hard sometimes when I get upset (emotional), I sometimes know that with him I have to tone it down a bit, but if I let it slip he just says " I forgot you are a little sensitive" and smiles. He has told me no one sees his emotions and he meant NO-ONE, but I'm calling his bluff.... During our "Intimate" times... I can get him to pretty much tell me anything I want to hear...... I am a Scorpio after all (LOL) He does something to me that I just can't explain. When we stopped talking for about 2 weeks... but then we both texted each other at the same time saying how we're trying to walk away, but can't. It's a weird feeling, like I KNOW one day he's going to be my husband..... I can't explain it, nor am I going to try.... I guess I'll just see what happens. :O)

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JMommaSlim
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posted July 31, 2008 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JMommaSlim     Edit/Delete Message
amowls

He is...I've already told him that I'm not going anywhere.


Mama Mia

He has done the "you deserve better" thing. I just tell him that he's right... I DO deserve better.. that's why I want to be with him... Shuts him up everytime. LOL!

wheelsofcheese

thanks for the welcome :O)

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Mama Mia
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posted July 31, 2008 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
PATIENCE is your only answer with this..Trust what you feel inside only us water signs can do that..LOL!!! I absolutely know what your talking about, walking in those same shoes, we just know what we know..And guess what rather he is revealing it yo uou or not he knows too..

"They deal with some natural insecurites and they analyze to much so that adds to the push and pull.( i.e am I or am I not good enough for her)


See I said this before you mentioned that he says you deserve better..This is how they are..Just hang in there..

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JMommaSlim
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posted July 31, 2008 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JMommaSlim     Edit/Delete Message
Mama Mia thanks for the advice. I think I'm being patient... LOL!! I know I wasn't at first because I NEEDED to know how he felt so I would know if I was wasting my time, but after a few months of not getting an answer, I just go with the flow. I'm not dating anyone else but I do keep my-self occupied so I don't worry my-self over it.

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EighthMoon
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posted July 31, 2008 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
JMomma,

I bumped a post called "Help a Virgo Out" since it's about Virgos/Scorpios.

8th

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mars446
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posted August 01, 2008 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mars446     Edit/Delete Message
Y didn't u see his daughter yet?

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mblover
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posted August 01, 2008 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
JMommaSlim -

This is a wonderful relationship. Virgo's patience and listening skills along with no Ego matches quite well with Scorpio woman's passion. And, Virgo men love sex with Scorpio women.

Try to control unnecessary criticism because Virgos convert them into sharp self criticism and sometimes they withdraw big time (it includes cheating too).

Best strategy is to thank him officially on anything he does for you. Even a small detail he does for you and if you like it, then appreciate it.. and watch this man smile. Formal appreciation via card or home made dinner is awesome.

Virgos look very different (good) when they are smiling or laughing.

Good luck

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JMommaSlim
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posted August 01, 2008 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JMommaSlim     Edit/Delete Message
mars446

I'm not sure. I don't push him into letting me meet her, I let it go. I know it's hard sometimes for him to get his ex-wife to let her visit on the weekends.

Thank you mblover!! :O)

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JMommaSlim
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posted August 26, 2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JMommaSlim     Edit/Delete Message
Okay UPDATE (for those who care ..... :O))

I met his daughter ...... Actually this past weekend is the 4th time I met her. The first time he asked me if I would come over to his house to make breakfast.... When I get there HIS PARENTS and HIS DAUGHTER are there (she's adorable). I made breakfast and we all sat down at the table and ate, well except for him .... he wanted to play his video game (BIG BIG KID), I took him his food.

Anyways ..... this past Friday, he brought his daughter over to my house. Both our daughters played for a few hours then we went to his house and they played some more. I made dinner and we ate, after that he let me sleep while the girls played. When I woke up he took me and my daughter home (The girls cried because they didn't want to leave each other). On Saturday the same thing. He came to my house I made breakfast for all of us, the girls played, I watched them this time so he could sleep. 8 hours later they went home.

Sounds great right???? Well, now we haven't been talking. I don't get it. Is parents love me (they told me), I get along with his daughter (we were all playing and laughing and she wouldn't let go of my leg), ALL his friends like me (he told me)... why all of a sudden the silent treatment??

2 friends of mine passed away this past Sunday, I told him and said I was having a hard time dealing with it and he acted like he didn't even care, when his grandmother passed I was up at 4AM comforting him when I had to go to work at 7:30AM but when I say I need him, but he tells me that he has to get up early (he's spent the night at my house before plenty of times, I live down the street from his job). He's told me he loved me a few times, but sometimes when I tell him the same he acts like he's ignoring me. What's going on??? I know he's a Virgo but COME ON!! It feels like we're back at day one all over again....


Sorry so long..... I needed to vent again .... :O)

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Mama Mia
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posted August 26, 2008 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
He's forced to deal with emotions here, and he is not good with dealing with emotions..He likes you plain and simple he likes you alot, but that makes him have to deal with his emotions..He was not there for you with your friend issue bc he has to again deal with emotions yours this time..

I had a Virgo guy friend tell me that he went back with a girl after he broke up with her bc she would not stop crying..He said he told her pleas we will work it out just stop crying..

The silent treatments is what I call retreat time..They do this when they are feeling things in the heart..They step away to think and analyse..The more they feel the more they step away..

I don't know what to tell you to get past this. other then patience..You know how much you can stand..I don't suggest you push though..

This is not about you, ALL this is about him and his evolvement..What he can give and what he cannot..The end result being how much he is willing to grow...

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JMommaSlim
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posted August 26, 2008 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JMommaSlim     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Mama Mia..... I really needed to hear that because I was so ready to give him the boot. I felt horrible, like maybe he didn't care at all since he wasn't there for me. I guess I will give him his space. I love him ALOT, I must... to be putting up with all of this. He comes out of his shell sometimes.... he sung to me :O) (he can really sing too). I guess here I go again ..... (taking deep breath LOL!!)

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Mama Mia
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posted August 26, 2008 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Guys don't take you around their parents and family like what he has done if they don't care for you like that..Especially a Virgo man..He is dealing with logic and emotion here..Battle of the head and heart..And honestly I think thats a lesson for Virgo men as well as Aqua men, they too act like this when they are inlove with a girl..

Logic is his element and he is being force to step outside that comfort zone and well he's trying as best I think from what you have said..So be patient more and suck up all those times that he is trying like singing to you and stuff like that..Bc when he goes into retreat time you will need that to fall back on to keep you focused and not give up..:-)

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peace
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posted August 26, 2008 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message
Happy b-day Elvis Costello 8/25/1952 Virgo Man
and his lovely wife Diana Krall Scorpio Woman.
Though it s not her b-day.
The perfect couple!.

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lookingoutfor
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posted August 27, 2008 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lookingoutfor     Edit/Delete Message
mamma mia, i'd like to thank you for the imput you have been giving as i feel its helping me with my libra sun virgo moon man. he is acting completely like the virgo guy with lots of silence. do you think it is relevant with moon signs aswell.

sun pisces
moon scorpio
rising aries

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Mama Mia
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posted August 27, 2008 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Yes hon I do believe that the moon is or can be equal to the sun..

Your very welcome and I hope that this helps..I have been through this so I know..
Us water gals just know stuff so listen to your gut/intuition and it will guide you to where you need to go..

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JMommaSlim
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posted August 27, 2008 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JMommaSlim     Edit/Delete Message
I'm trying my hardest to be patient, but all I keep thinking about is "Can I go through this for another 8 - 9 months?". Not saying that I'll have too, but there still is the POSSIBILITY. I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of the fact that you always remember the BAD stuff before the GOOD stuff. So, I'm trying extremely hard to remember all the good stuff. Like him actually crying in front of me (good for me because he actually felt comfortable crying it INFRONT OF ME, not once but twice :O)) or him just grabbing my hand to hold it. Things like that.... Oh how I love that man ...... GOD GIVE ME STRENGTH!!! :O)

Thanks Mama Mia!!!

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posted August 28, 2008 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lookingoutfor     Edit/Delete Message
mamma mia, the trouble is, if you dont mind me bothering you with this a bit more, is that at times i think my gut instincts/intuition are completely dysfunctional!! My mother committed suicide on 13th june 1980 and since, i have had a succession of disastrous relationships. so sorry if thats a bit heavy but i'm at my wits end. I love this guy to bits he seems perfect in so many ways but there is this nagging irritation that he is not completely up front with me about things. I question him constantly, doubt him and am prob making myself ill over this (not for the first time). I am so distrusting having been lied to so many times by other boyfriends. It is so very hard to leave all that behind. I desperately want to move on and have the relationship i've always dreamed of having but i keep shooting myself in the foot.

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posted August 28, 2008 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lookingoutfor     Edit/Delete Message
He said to me last night that he doesn't understand why i'm hell bent on ****ing it up! Thats really not what I want to do at all. Trust is a big issue for me.

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Mama Mia
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posted August 28, 2008 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
First thing sorry about your mom...Second thing trust your instinct its your guide..But also Scorps(your moon) can be very distrustiing just in general..Honestly, I think that you should seek therapy not just for this but to help you deal with what your mom did..Your perhaps dealing with some issues from way deep with in, as alot of ppl are..

We seek the perfect relationship but we first have to get ourselves,issues together..We can have the perfect relationship, guy right in our face but if we have alot of demons we won't realize it..And if we don't get ourselves together we continue to deal with things that deem dysfunctional..

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posted August 28, 2008 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lookingoutfor     Edit/Delete Message
thanks again mamma mia. what are your thoughts on spiritual healing. I have tried therapy thru the years but not had much success with it. I always seem to know more about it than them!! And they tell me they are surprised i'm not on drugs etc. Arrrgh!

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Mama Mia
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posted August 28, 2008 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Spiritual healing is wonderful..Honestly thats how I have gotten over all the things that I have..The thing with spiritual healing is you have to be quiet inside so that you can hear the answers..Alot of ppl can't and get confused is to whats what..

Prayer is a wonderful thing the best..Its dialogue between you and God..I do believe that if you stay connected to God you can be healed..That takes commitment..So I suggest that you try that and being a Pisces that you are, we have that deep intuition so it should not be hard to recieve the answers you seek..

Good luck..

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