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vuillard
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posted August 11, 2008 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vuillard     Edit/Delete Message
Do you think CHIRON in HOUSE 5 could have this meaning? The same person has also MARS square SATURN...and I really hope we we'll have babys one day...
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winky_winky
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posted August 11, 2008 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winky_winky     Edit/Delete Message
oh no no way! well then again, this bloke i know has mars conj pluto, and chiron in 5th, but venus conj mercury which is not interested in sex at all

for impotency look either for afflicted asc in relation to pluto, which rules sexual organs, or emotional indicators... such as moon,etc...

but i believe chiron is more unhealable wounds that point to self-expression, children or else in this house.. could be some emotional scar but, as i say, look for "sexual" indicators, such as venus conj mars, mars conj pluto, etc...

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Kay Libra
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posted August 11, 2008 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kay Libra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi. I'm not sure of the aspects but I do know a guy who has Chiron in 5th and Mars conjunct Pluto in the 11th house and he can't have children he believes. He's 37 years old and only had gotten 1 person pregnant. My son's dad has Venus conjunct Mars in the 5th house and is very fertile as he has 4 boys. He also has a 4 or 5 planets in the 5th house.
Synastrically speaking my Saturn fell in one my ex's 5th house and we couldn't have conceive for the life of it! He was fertile as he had children prior to our relationship. Me myself I have Neptune in the 5th house and I've had unplanned pregnancies.

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winky_winky
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posted August 11, 2008 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winky_winky     Edit/Delete Message
yes seems like saturn imposes limits and burdens whatever it touches...

this bloke i know has mars conj pluto in 11th also and chiron in 5th, but also saturn in 5th

he left a gfriend pregnant but it ended in abortion, and the 11th house is supposed to be the house of adopted children, so...

mars conj venus is very potent, and if in 5th i suppose it gives extra fertility or increased creativity

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blue moon
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posted August 11, 2008 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
....and Saturn in the 7th means you will turn into Miss Haversham at the stroke of midnight.

Or maybe like me, it expresses how you will marry someone older and career-orientated. Maybe you will have a lot of responsibilities in your marriage, and will take on some traditionally male tasks.

Saturn in the 5th ~ maybe, like my husband, this could indicate a man who has a second family later on in life. Sometimes women do this also ~ I can think of several women who have had a second family in the 30s and 40s, with a gap of 10, 15 years since they last had a baby. Wouldn't Saturn in 5th be a possible indicator?

The 5th house is also the house of creativity, romance. Saturn could be offering discipline and structure in a creative way in this house. Chiron could be offering healing potential. My Chiron in 5th intersects my Air Grand Trine and personally I feel it to be of significance in a creative way.

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Kay Libra
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posted August 11, 2008 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kay Libra     Edit/Delete Message
Wink - the guys we mentioned almost have the same placements. Well his Saturn is in the 7th house. But the guy has always dated women with children as he absolutely adores them. Maybe that explains the Mars/Plu 11th house. He also writes poetry -- maybe that is how chiron is manifested in the 5th house. he's very good at it too. My mom had saturn natally in the 5th house and she's very creative. I do know that she has stated before if she never had children she would have loved to travel the world...a sagittarian btw.

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posted August 11, 2008 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
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He's 37 years old and only had gotten 1 person pregnant

Not sure what this means, quite? He has tried in multiple relationships but it only happened once? Or he has never really bothered with contraception but despite this has only got one person pregnant after 20 odd years of sexual activity?

To be logical, a large number of people in societies with freely available contraception plan on small families or plan not to have children at all. I don't see how one person with 4 children can be categorised as highly fertile, but someone with less children less fertile. They might have made a conscious choice or been more careful with contraception.

And like I said in my previous post, placements in the 5th house could be as much about creativity as anything about children. Even the children aspect might refer to parenting styles as much as fertility levels.

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Kay Libra
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posted August 11, 2008 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kay Libra     Edit/Delete Message
Background info he's had 4 long term relationships and only 1 has gotten pregnant, but decided not to keep the baby. He mentioned that he & partner tried with each of those relationships

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Kick It
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posted August 11, 2008 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
I didnt think Chiron had any meaning whatsoever.

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amowls
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posted August 11, 2008 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
What do you mean Kick It?

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Kick It
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posted August 11, 2008 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
As it says. I just put it down as another asteroid. Means nothing in astrology.

Obviously would help if I look at it more, but to me it means nothing right now.

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GeminiLover75
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posted August 11, 2008 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiLover75     Edit/Delete Message
Well if that guy got one woman pregnant, then obviously he is able to have children - maybe the timing was just off with the other women.

I have Chiron in the fifth house and I don't believe it has anything to do with my childbearing abilities. I also have Sun and Jupiter in the fifth house and a Scorpio moon, which is supposed to be a fruitful moon sign.

Even Saturn in the fifth house can simply mean a delay in having children, but not necessarily infertility in any way. So I really think that aspects and timing also need to be considered.

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posted August 11, 2008 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Do you mean "impotent", or "sterile"?

Impotence is "persistent flacidity".

Sterility is shooting blanks.

Impotence would probably show up in the 8th house,
while sterility could be shown by the condition of the 5th.

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blue moon
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posted August 12, 2008 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Kay. Now I get it.

Maybe he has a low sperm count, or like Gem75 maybe his timing was off.

Sorry, I don't know if I have said but I have Chiron in the 5th and have had 2 children. My problem was miscarrying, I got pregnant quickly enough. Like, very, 1st time I tried. Doubt it would be the case now, my eggs are getting old.

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