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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted August 20, 2008 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
I ammmm sooo blown away right now it is not even funny...This is the first meeting chart for my boyfriend and I...if you look at the inconjuncts they form an almost perfect pentagram with Pluto at the top, including mercury, sun, moon, mars and Uranus...I have NEVER seen anything like that! I want to know what it means, if anyone can help...and also for someone born that day at that time...what does it mean in a natal chart?


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posted August 20, 2008 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
This is insane...what does it all mean?

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wheelsofcheese
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posted August 20, 2008 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
I've got one in my natal chart, BUD. I've also got a pentagon, which goes right round the outside of the pentagram. Other than checking out the detail of what yods mean I don't know what else to suggest, other than continue freaking like I am and not know what to do or where to start with all the aspects. Pentagrams/Pentagons may represent a symbol for 'man' or 'humankind' I read but that's not much help is it? Splash charts suck a biggie!

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posted August 20, 2008 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm well there has to be something about it. Its more than a yod, its like 3 yods lol. I saw something on cafeastrology but it wasn't too deep and it didn't give much on the nature of the aspect.

"Wreath, Pentagram

A configuration of aspects formed by five points of a horoscope, uniformly connected by five quintiles, and by biquintiles. Figures of this pattern in the natal chart look like a pentagram. In a fifth harmonic chart all five points of a Pentagram are in conjunction.

P.Globa states that the Pentagram is the strongest configuration operating manifestly and constantly corresponding to the element of Fire. The Pentagram is connected to natural processes of creative regeneration - in the native there is a prerogative to search constantly, there are constantly new events in his life, and he can rectify his life. At worst the Pentagram gives constantly gleaming conditions, which are boring to the person; all innovations seem familiar and monotonous; adventurism and dissoluteness; indulgence which does not encounter resistance. "

Wheelsofcheese - How do you think it effects you? Any special things that you think it does? I think thats just so awesome

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posted August 21, 2008 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Hi BUD. Well, my feelings about it are that I have so many aspects coming off the pentagram/pentagon thing that I can't disregard any experience, feeling, situation. But that could be the Libra sun talking. Anyway, it backs up the Libraness in me, which has got to help. I think if I had a chart that was all cosied up into one corner with lots of empty houses it may make me avoid looking at some aspects of life or not take other signs' opinions into consideration. I guess it enables me to have a clear viewpoint on astrology and what I think it means - that all people are everything and that people are made up of all the signs, all the houses and every single part of that must be in you (and other people) and I must try very very hard to understand that and not ignore any of it.. It's hard work but I'm glad to hold that view. I don't know whether that's down to the pentagram/pentagon, or the splash or what. I think it does give me an ability to talk to anyone about anything (the humankind factor - the shape reminds me of that Leonardo DaVinci man, arms and legs outstretched) and find something in common with even the most unlikely people. A wide and varied range of interests. I really do try to connect with most people in some way.

Six yods in my pentagram! arrgh

The chart you posted is a first meeting chart right? Did you find that the first meeting displayed anything I've touched on? Did you talk about everything and anything under the sun? How did you feel?

I like that stuff you posted about the fire thing. I feel I don't have enough fire and I'm glad to know that, it makes me feel more whole. I have 5 heavyweight planets in air and an earth/water kite, so this has really cheered me.

PS how do you do a first meeting chart? I looked on astro.com and can't see it.

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posted August 21, 2008 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
this thread is fascinating to me because i've always wondered about this - but never encountered anyone with it before.

so i thought i'd research pentagrams - but there are so many different types of meanings and interpretations depending upon your beliefs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram

maybe something in here can help you find the right interpret for yourself and apply it to the astrology.

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posted August 21, 2008 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, cool! Thanks PA!
My pentagram is the satanic kind, with the two points upwards! baaaa!

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posted August 21, 2008 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
wheels

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My pentagram is the satanic kind, with the two points upwards! baaaa!

i'm suddenly concerned. the terms "satanic" and "baaa" in one sentence. that "baaaa" - is that the sound of a sacrificial lamb? as an aries - i feel very afraid right now.

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted August 21, 2008 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
LOL! Sacrificial lamb! Our pentagram is satanic too...mwahah

Wheelsofcheese - I think that is more characteristic of me (libra rising) than my boyfriend. I believe in deeper meaning of things and while he does too, its not as much as me. Its not exactly the first meeting chart. Its kinda weird. I met his friend first and he was standing next to him. Then once by accident I saw them walk across a train platform on the other side of where I stood and that was after I had just seen a movie so I had a ticket stub for time and date. We actually met later and since I was not into astrology at the same level then I didn't think to record the date...So it was me seeing him and him not seeing me meeting date. Lol...progressed for duration of our relationship (2.5 years)

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posted August 21, 2008 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Would you say its a gem-virgo-aqu-sco type relationship?

The reason I ask is because of this (see diagram):
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/fwa/planetinsignrelations.html

(higher because of the multiple of each)

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted August 22, 2008 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
Definitely beacuse he is a moon in Cappie (similar to virgo) and im a moon in Scorpio, both Geminis and hes an Aqua rising. So yea definitely

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Azalaksh
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posted August 22, 2008 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
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i'm suddenly concerned. the terms "satanic" and "baaa" in one sentence. that "baaaa" - is that the sound of a sacrificial lamb? as an aries - i feel very afraid right now.
PA
I nearly blew a mouthful of tea out my nose when I read that.....

Hi BUD

I think I'd be more concerned with the Moon/Jupiter/Uranus Hammer of Thor than any satanic pentagrams

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted August 22, 2008 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
Zala - I am not familiar with the Hammer of Thor, what is it and how does it work?

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Azalaksh
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posted August 23, 2008 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Hi BUD

The HoT ( ) is a square [Jupiter/Moon] with two sesquiquadrates (135 degrees) [to Uranus] -- aka, Quadriform (per: http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_pq.htm ). Instead of being just a Finger of God (Yod) this is a Fist of God ~

This is an aspect configuration is known by several different names: Quadriform, Arrowhead, Thor's Hammer or God's Fist.
It consists of two planets in square aspect (90 degrees) and both in an octile or sesqui-quadrate aspect (135 degrees) to a third planet. The energy of this aspect pattern is a little like a T-square, since it has stressful, dynamic energy. However, the octile aspects (based on dividing the circle into 8 pieces) tend to be a little more complex than the square or opposition (based on dividing the circle into 4 pieces).

Some astrologers see the energy originating in the tension of the two square planets, which finds an outlet through the third (apex) planet. This means the apex planet must find a creative way to resolve the conflict of the square, or else it could vent that tension destructively. This perspective reflects the image of an Arrowhead.

Other astrologers see the energy flow originating in the apex planet, which then must find a way to wield the power and dynamic stress of the square planets. It's a little like holding a live grenade - what do you do with it?? You need to find a way to use it constructively and creatively, or the energy can become destructive. This image is like a Hammerhead or God's Fist.

By cultivating support for the energy of the apex planet, it is possible to give it strength to work constructively and creatively with the square planets.

Pronounced: QUAD-rih-form. See also: Aspect configuration, T-square, aspect, square, octile.

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