posted September 05, 2008 03:46 AM            

I can only think of two people (both male) with this placement. Both were I guess very neat, that's all I could really say about them. The rest of their personalities were strongly determined by their sun and moon from my observations and there didn't appear to be any defined quality about their mars. I guess its important for me to know as part of my 5th house is falls in virgo and one many years ago fuelled my fire to speak.

So, question is, what is your experiences with the possessors of mars in virgo? What have you noticed about them?

posted September 05, 2008 04:30 AM            

One of my favourite astro-topics.

A while back I realised I know many people with this placement and I have learned to love it and to appreciate the detailed sense of artistry it brings. Some of these anecdotes are repeats of things I have said before on LL, but maybe they will be a little bit helpful.

The one thing that stands out for me with this placement is that of the people I know all have some innate sense of artistic refinement that will come out somehow. Examples:

* Sun/Mercury/Venus in Cancer. Moon Sag. Mars in Virgo.

Takes a lot of pleasure in making her home environment as pleasant as possible. A part-time hairdresser, she says the first thing she notices about people is their hair. She's also studied beauty.

Beauticians will tweezer out the last hair on your leg that the wax didn't rip away. It's that kind of attention to detail, making the job as perfect as they can. Of course she is like this, too.

Good at drawing, likes to do cross-stitch. Everything is neatly executed and well-presented.

Likes things done her way, not much room for manoeuvre on this.

* Sun Virgo, Moon Pisces, Mercury Leo, Venus Cancer, Mars Virgo

My childhood friend. Together we spent hours colouring. He was younger than me but was better at staying in the lines.

He didn't really like playing outside in mud with the other boys. And he didn't like food with bits in it. It used to drive his mother mad. Always well-groomed.

"That's good", I remember once saying about his drawing after his brother had made him cry. "It's supposed to be", he said.

We are still friends. He is now a professional photographer. I have some of his work on my wall. He isn't precious about his artistry but he does have high standards. It goes with the turf.

* Sun Libra, Moon Sag, Mercury, Venus, Mars in Virgo.

She was very modest when I said she was cultured and refined. But it is true. She visits high-brow exhibitions about painting, pottery, art, history of art and can discuss in and make it interesting to a peasant like me.

She's an older person, from an age where she wouldn't have been encouraged to head for art school. But you can see artistic talent spill out in her hobbies. She does a lot of dress-making for friends. There won't be a stitch out of place. Everything is neat and exact. I like sewing but her work table is nothing like mine, there won't be bits of material thrown around everywhere spilling onto the floor, that's for certain.

Not very flexible as an individual. There's a proper way of doing things, sometimes that means deciding what is best for other people which can be annoying. But she's a Libran at heart, she does it with the intention of making things better.

High standards. No way would she go out and buy something from a cheap store. Everything has to be quality. Bit of Libra coming out there.

* Sun, Mercury in Leo, Moon in Aries, Venus in Cancer, Mars in Virgo.

This is my mother.

She left school at 14. No-one would have bothered sending her to any kind of college, let alone art-school. She says she would have liked to have been a window-dresser in a large shop. But it was a throw you down the local factory number for Mom.

One of my friends is a professional artist and asked, "who drew that"? when he saw a picture left lying around my house. I told him that it was my mother, playing with the kids. She has untapped talent. She arranges flower for the local church. She says she isn't really that good, but someone asked her to do their wedding. Let loose she could do some great landscape gardening. Very knowledgable about plants and gardening, all self-taught.

Sometimes she gets bogged down in details. She starts doing things a certain way, and finds it hard to adapt a task when it is taking a lot of time and be more lax.

She drummed in personal hygiene when we were kids. I've never known any take so much care with their teeth and oral hygiene. Unfortunately she was malnourished as a child (war-time) and they aren't very strong.

posted September 05, 2008 11:18 AM            

"When we don't live up to our own expectations of who we should become, we'd rather hide from the rest of humanity forever !"

I can definitely relate to this. I find this placement uncomfortable, like it hurts my willingness to follow my heart and move forward unless I'm perfect. Which of course, nobody is! As I get older I'm learning to ease up on all the expectations and pressure and just experience my life and have a good time.

posted September 05, 2008 04:25 PM            

Mars in Virgo has another influence on me as well, I think. It tricks me into believing that if I analyze a person/relationship long and thoroughly enough, I can make it work forever It makes me think that I can truly satisfy a person's friendship/lover needs if they would just let me.

I'm never ever aggressive about it though. If you say No to a Mars in virgo person, they will get out of your way and never return.

posted September 08, 2008 02:46 AM            

Actors: Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr., Kevin Spacey (two-time Oscar winner), Michael Caine (also a two-time Oscar winner), Hilary Swank (same as Spacey & Caine w/ Oscars), Peter Sellers, Will Smith, Hugh Jackman, Judi Dench, Eva Green.

Musicians: Jeff Buckley, Nina Simone, Stevie Wonder, Tom Waits, Eddie Vedder, Thom Yorke (Radiohead), George Michael (Wham! )

Artists: O'Keefe, Monet, Cezanne

Creative Writers: Hemingway, Emily Bronte

Misc.: Nietzsche, Heidegger, Barack Obama, Napolean, Lady Di, Mother Theresa, Gene Kelly

posted September 08, 2008 02:55 AM            

He was a huge fan of hygiene (at least in himself). He'd brush his teeth like 10 times a day. And he SHAVED HIS CHEST.

TMI:
In sex, he wasn't very into being dominant (actually he liked equality so much we'd do it sideways... which made me lol in my head because HELLO Libra stellium). He also suggested doing it in the shower a lot (but in my experience, all guys want to do it in the shower).

posted September 08, 2008 06:08 AM            

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And he SHAVED HIS CHEST

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Grounds for divorce.

posted September 09, 2008 12:55 PM            

the perfection thing is spot on.

i've related to most of the comments made on other mars in virgo natives and there's a bit of me in all of them.

i may not have the lofty expectations of a virgo sun person when it comes to hygene but i do get rather annoyed at habits that can result in making people sick...not cleaning spills/plates etc properly. hehe... yes, when it comes to cleaning i expect people to THOUROUGHLY (though not overly, uneedingly) complete the task.
same goes for weeding and gardening or any menail task...cross the t's dot the i's. it's the only way to do it as far as i'm concerned.
which is another thing...i will come up with systems to make tasks run smoothly and efficiently. i am VERY particular about such things and if i work with people who just can't get that, i get kinda wild!

posted September 09, 2008 02:30 PM              

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posted September 09, 2008 02:35 PM            

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oh i'm also a painter/drawer and have always payed UTMOST attention to detail when letting my artistic side out.

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posted September 10, 2008 02:36 AM            

I think my Virgo mars also contributes to me being strategic. I've been called sneaky many times. (And many of those times it wasn't as an insult. ) The natural way I take action in life is to think of the outcome I want and then plan the best course to reach that. I can definitely see Mercury's influence linked with my actions.

It's not just thinking about which actions will best lead to a desired result, but I also think about what the potential consequences will be of a contemplated action. Fortunately I have Mercury conj Uranus, so I can think fast and am not frozen in contemplation when asked "do you want fries with that?"

I can relate to the perfectionism thing too. I already mentioned how that plays out with editing posts. In my life though, my perfectionism isn't focused so much on the details. I want a certain outcome, and the details are merely the tools to help me achieve that outcome. Sometimes the details can be off, and I can still reach the desired outcome. I consider that a success. On the other hand, even if all the details were executed perfectly, I wouldn't be satisfied if I didn't get the overall goal I wanted.

For instance, back in college when I'd write papers for a class, my goal was always to have an original idea or gain a deeper understanding. I wanted to experience that high that comes with discovery. If I didn't experience that while writing the paper, I considered the paper a "waste" even if the form of it (all the Virgoan details) was perfect.

I can forgive technical imperfections much more easily than a lack of meaning or purpose. So I guess my Sag sun overrides my Virgo mars? I don't know. It's probably much more complicated than that.

Two of my oldest and closest friends also have their mars in Virgo. We were all born within 2 weeks of one another, so we have very similar charts. One thing we have in common is how our minds hold on to inside jokes or experiences we've had together and then efficiently reference those memories when we're together. People have commented that it's like we're speaking our own language because we have so many code words. This isn't just a case of friends knowing one another for a long time, because I have other friends who I've known as long and that private language thing isn't as pronounced with them.

posted September 10, 2008 09:35 AM            

Specially I notice I'm very particular about cleanliness and hygiene, specially on myself. I drive myself nuts with it. Everything has to be just so - perfectionist moi?

Also everything has to be done a certain way, and when it comes to tidying up and things, I hate anyone else's sloppiness- I'm like do it properly or not at all hehe

posted September 10, 2008 12:46 PM            

oh man. i know this!

posted September 10, 2008 10:52 PM            

Speaking of deadlines, I almost always do assignments at the last minute. Fortunately, most of the time I make the deadline.

Part of my reason for procrastinating is my Virgo mars--I need the "perfect" idea before I start. And like twentytwenty, it has to be something that moves me. It has to excite me. I think that criteria comes from my Moon-Uranus square. And I think this square also contributes to me doing work at the last minute, because I suppose a part of me thrives on the adrenaline rush that comes with having to work fast.

At the moment, I have something I need to complete by tomorrow night. I've been "working" on it every night this week, but most of the time I've actually been slacking off and visiting this site instead.

I thought of some other Virgo mars things...

--Independent study. When I was a little kid, just for the heck of it I would research a topic and then write up a report on it. I remember the first time I did this. I was about 7. My family had just bought a new encyclopedia, but not the whole set. Only the letter "A." ("You whippersnappers are so spoiled nowadays. Back in my day..." ) So I sat down with it, did some research, and wrote a report. When I was done, I proudly handed it to my mom. The report was on abortion.

--I love making schedules. Back in college, I made my friends' course schedules. They'd tell me what classes they wanted. I'd research the available professors, narrow down the classes to the best professors, and then make the final choice on the best times. I really enjoyed doing this. I still do things like that now. If anyone needs a schedule or itinerary made up, it gives me great pleasure to do the job.

posted September 11, 2008 12:28 AM              

I have Mars in Virgo. My ninth grade teacher told me it wasn't necessary to make my handwriting so perfect. I was very neat as a child but now I'm not very neat because I'd rather study astrology than clean the house.
I'm very hygiene-conscious, however.

posted September 11, 2008 12:47 AM            

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Part of my reason for procrastinating is my Virgo mars--I need the "perfect" idea before I start.

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posted September 11, 2008 03:23 AM            

So a few months ago I was working with someone. He was being very particular about how he wanted me to work, and as he was instructing me, in my head I was loving his attention to detail. It was the first time I was seeing that side of him.

Eventually, he stopped and said, "I'm sorry to be getting so anal."

And I said, "No, don't be! I love getting anal."

posted September 11, 2008 03:27 AM            

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