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posted September 10, 2008 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
I got a bit of a shock when I just looked up Leo di Caprio's chart. He has libra rising with moon, pluto and uranus (all in libra) in the first. I have moon, pluto (in libra) and uranus (sco) in the 7th and I'm aries rising.

Never felt any interest in him though.

Oddly Kate Winslet (who starred with Leo in Titanic and has jupiter in her 7th, I have it in my first), Mickaël GERARD (whoever he is) and Heather O'Rourke (whoever she is who also has jupiter in the 7th) are also complementary to me

So I'm wondering for those people who have planets in the first and/or 7th, have you found your mirror? If so, post it here.

You can do the criteria search here: http://www.astrotheme.com/celebrites/criteres.php

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posted September 10, 2008 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Well, maybew he is your dreamguy, and you just never noticed.

However, even though I would agree with tha theory basically, you have to take the whole chart into account, and the ruler of the 7th house will be more important than the planets in 7th house in terms of what you are attracted to (at least one theory sais so).

Also, even if it all fits like hand in glove, it is all just potentially. You`ll need to have corresponding progressions.

Maybe you have something ugly in the progressions between you, so he just isn`t right for you at THIS point in time.

And wait some years and you will be completely crazy about him.

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posted September 10, 2008 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Well DD that's all true. It's more complex than simply looking at what's in the 1st and 7th. His mars rules his DC and his mars is in a rather "useless" position, try my 7th conj ura. As for my 7th house ruler, venus, it too is in a "useless" position, in his 3rd. At least he'll say nice things to me His first house ruler (venus) and sun are both on my NN/vx, we have conj moons and my 4th house ruler (moon) is conj his MC ruler. Past and future?

Still don't feel anything for him ...

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posted September 11, 2008 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
23,

if anything at all this would look more like a parent - child-connection than anything else, with the MC and 4th house.

I checked my own synastry with him. I am not attracted to him either, b ut do feel a bit intrigued at times and I think he is a great actor, yet feels more like a brother would feel. I have the same "brother" feeling with Brad Pitt btw (but we share the same birthday and donīt have such great synastry I think).

however, in Leo`s case, the ruler of his 7th house, Mars, falls into my 11th house and trines chartruler Jupiter and sextiles 5th house ruler Venus. It`s nice, but nothing special.
The ruler of his 5th house falls into my 10th house conjunct 11th house cusp and also conjuncts my Uranus. Period.

The ruler of my 7th house, Mercury, falls into his 3rd house, and has no aspects to his planets, unless you count a 4° sextile to his Mercury / uranus. He just has nothing what I need, that means I think.

Ruler of my 5th house, Venus, falls into his 4th house conjunct his IC - that is interesting though. Maybe that is where my intrigue and family feeling comes from?
It also squares his ASC, sextiles his Jupiter and sextiles his Venus, so no real strong interaction here.

My Moon in his 5th house trines his Moon in his 1st house, this trine falls into my 2nd house and his Moon falls into my 10th house.

But my Saturn, ruler of my 2nd house, has also a real ugly square to his Moon. Actually my Saturn sits in his 10th house.

And his Sun-Venus conjunction sits in my 11th house conjunct the 12th house cusp and squares my 8th house ruler Moon and trines Saturn, which sits in my 8th house.

Our 8th house rulers are actually square each other, falling into fix houses.
My 8th house ruler Moon falls into Aquarius and my 2nd house and his 5th house.
His 8th house ruler Venus falls into Scorpio in his 2nd house and my 11th house.
That is ONE VERY fixed position, isnīt it?

Something makes me think of arguing like cats and dogs, which would fit the brother-feelings. lol


This chart is a bit intriguing though, maybe I should have a look at the dracoīs and find out that we have been brother and sister in a previous life. I`m pretty sure I was the older sister, who wouldnīt approve of some of his decisions. though.


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posted September 11, 2008 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
THanks for the analysis DD.

Nothing really major to report on the tropical - his 8th/7th house (venus) on my NN/vx

4th house ruler (mine) is conj his MC ruler (moon v moon)

my 4th house ruler square his 5th house ruler.

His 7th house ruler is conj my 11th house ruler.

My 8th house ruler is trine his MC ruler

..and that's about it..

However, his psyche is conj my eros (off by a degree). Now, I did have this with someone once, and boy did I feel it! As I've said many times before, meeting a person in reality is very different to seeing a picture of them.

My pluto opp anti-vx
My asc three degrees away from his vx
His karma opp my venus (3 deg)
His union conj my union, both conj my moon/karma
His adonis on my DC
Nothing as blisteringly good as JT, except eros-psyche conj

Draconically
His d-moon conj my sun
His d-jup opp my venus
His d-ura/d-merc trine my moon
His d-saturn falls in my 7th
His d-karma conj my DC
He has a lot of d-planets in my 12th
My d-venus falls in his 8th
My d-neptune falls in his 7th
My d-moon widley conj his d-sun
his d-vx opp my sun/merc
his d-juno opp my venus
his d-eros squ my saturn
his adonis conj my sun
It seems yet again, some past relationship

That's all I could be bothered in one sitting

PS yes, very fixed aspects for fixed houses for you!

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posted September 11, 2008 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
"his 8th/7th house (venus) on my NN/vx"
Well, I forgot to mention, of course his NN is conjunct my Neptune / NN and ASC.

"However, his psyche is conj my eros (off by a degree)."
Well, I just realized that his Eros opposes my Venus.

His Karma opposes my Sun and Mercury, which would affirm the "brother-theory".
Also, ruler of his 3rd house conjuncts my chartruler (in his 6th house). Ruler of my 3rd house conjuncts his ruler of 12th, 5th and 9th house, (in his 2nd house).

Add to that that my Sun, Mercury, DSC-ruler, Mars, ASC and IC-ruler all fall into his 3rd house.
He most strongly overlays my 10th and 11th house.

Interesting: his ASC very closely conjuncts my MC.

Looking at the houses overlay, he doesn`t have anything in my romantic houses except for his IC. I do at least have Moon in his 5th house, Venus in his 4th house and IC in his 7th house.

But for me the personal romantic houses (as my own 7th, 5th and 8th house ruler are placed in there) are the 1st house (5th and 7th house ruler) and the 2nd house (8th house ruler). - He doesn`t have anything personal in those houses of mine.

For him personal romantic houses are the 2nd house as the ruler of the 5th, 7th and 8th are all there (the old ruler of 5th house is in 10th house, so maybe 10th house is important for him, too).
I don`t really have anything important in his 2nd house. And I only have Saturn in his 10th house.

"My pluto opp anti-vx"
My Pluto conjuncts his Antivertex

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posted September 11, 2008 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
"Draconically
His d-moon conj my sun"
That looks like a strong one, but maybe the Moon person feels it more strongly, as Moon is a receptive energy?


"His d-karma conj my DC"
Along with the Karma-Venus that could hint at a past relationship (but we don`t have to repeat EVERYTHING, do we?)

"e has a lot of d-planets in my 12th"
I guess that means there is something deeply hidden in past incarnations.

I had a look at my Draco connection with him, and could hardly stop laughing.

His Draconic Sun / Venus-conjunction falls exactly onto my Ceres and also conjuncts my chartruler Jupiter, which - are you sitting?- in my natal 3rd house!!!!
Didn`t I say it? Brother.

Wait, it gets better, because the first time I took notice of him, was when he played that mentally disabled Arnie in "Gilbert Grape" and I was VERY impressed with him. I am having a brother, who has the Down syndrome himself, and Leo was VERY close to the real life.
And the real creepy thing is his Draco Sun / Venus - conjunction falls onto my brother`s Venus, which in turn conjuncts my Jupiter, of course.
So in a way he may really have reminded me of my brother. lol


His Draco Uranus / Mercury conjunct my Moon.
His Draco DSC conjunct my Vertex and Eros.

My Draco Sun opposes his Moon exactly like in 0.02.
My Draco Moon widely conjuncts his SN
My Draco Mercury opposes his Moon.
My Draco Venus opposes his Mercury / Uranus.
My Draco Jupiter conjunct his MC
My Draco Saturn / Vertex / Eros conjunct his Mars.
My Draco Karma conjunct his Pluto and ASC.
My Draco Psyche conjunct his SN.

Since we have the same NN, it means that the Draco-Draco-interaspects will be the same as the tropical ones.

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posted September 11, 2008 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
However, concerning hosues overlay:

His Draco Sun, Venus, Valentine and Mars all fall into my natal 3rd house - don`t you just love it, if a THEME is so obvious?

His Draco ASC, Moon, Pluto, Uranus and Mercury fall into my natal 2nd house.


The other way round:


My Draco Mars, ASC in his natal 6th house.
My Draco Sun, Mercury and Venus fall into his natal 7th house
My Draco Moon falls into his natal 9th house (a sister from overseas maybe )
My Draco Saturn, Vertex and Eros in his natal 2nd house.

I think it is interesting that his Draco DSC became his natal MC; does that mean that he will meet past lovers (Draco DSC) or soulbound partners (Draco DSC) in regard to his career and fame (tropical MC)?

Well, if that is true, then let`s see where I would meet my past loves:

I have Draco DSC in Virgo; Virgo is intercepted in my 9th house tropically. Does t hat mean that I will meet my karmic loves in foreign countries? Or maybe they will be Sag`s?
Which reminds me all at once of my Sag-crush.

And can I do it the other way round?
My Tropical DSC is in Gemini and falls into the 2nd house in Draco?
So previous posessions become my present partners? Did I have slaves? Just kidding.


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