posted September 10, 2008 05:36 PM         

What do you reckon?

There must be a good side to Neptune in contact with the personals -: the spiritual quest when it hits Mars? The sensitivity when it opposes the Moon? The imagination carved out of a tense square with Mercury?

posted September 10, 2008 06:05 PM         

I made this at L.A for the sake of argument, I don't know where he was born. I imagine (and it is Neptunian imagination) he was Moon in Cancer. But of course, I don't know.

This is a cyber-snoop I ran up today after reading about the film Into the Wild, quite by chance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_McCandless

Everything points to Neptune -:

The spiritual quest of Mars in Pisces Trine Neptune. Maybe it is part of a Grand Trine with the Moon. That could explain why his journey has been romanticised/captured the imagination of many - depending on your point of view. Also, the mini-triangle with Uranus/Pluto Trine Venus.

The T-Square with Moon/Mercury/Jupiter. We are not looking at a person motivated by self-preservation, or really, common sense, either.

Saturn is hiding. Maybe he is Trine the Moon, but I don't think so. It could easily be out of orb. I have Moon Trine Saturn. I recently went climbing in the Scottish mountains. I took a map, a compass, a mobile phone, emergency rations and a freelance guide. Saturn could be a singleton.

posted September 10, 2008 06:15 PM         

Astra ~ I love Venus Trine Neptune. I also have a son with this (different one). He is the first child in the class to rush and help anyone who has hurt themselves, and on his school report it said he was nice to other children and always polite to the teachers. What more can a mama ask? I have a friend with it too, the sweetest, kindest man about. Get rid of the lingering ex, she is using you, I said, but to no avail.

posted September 10, 2008 06:25 PM         

Mars 3rd house in Sagittarius conjunct Neptune 12th house in Virgo: Helps me with drive and motivation I have to make sure to keep the excess energy in check tho.

Jupiter 10th house in Cancer sextile Neptune 12th house in Virgo: I feel this placement stimulates me on a mental level tho at times I can wonder off into my imagination. I make it a point to re-focus my dream world into something creative when I find myself drifting off too much.

So overall Neptune’s energy is always present with me and can at times be a challenge to keep it focused however, the challenge is part of the fun!

posted September 10, 2008 06:39 PM         

square jupiter in 5th grrrr
trine chiron in 12th/aries
trine AC/aries
opposing mars in taurus/2nd eek!
sextile uranus and pluto in 6th

posted September 10, 2008 08:06 PM         

Anyway, Neptune aspects, what do they mean to me?

Well, I have Virgo Saturn (11th house) square Sagittarius Neptune (2nd house). As I have mentioned on several other forums, this is by far the most difficult aspect in my chart due to the extreme structure of my Saturn and, on the other side of the coin, the incredible spaciness of my Neptune. The way that I have tried to resolve the problem posed by this square is to have "structured fantasies" instead of either giving into either extreme; it takes a lot of work though.

My fiancee, on the other hand, is very Neptunian. She has Neptune conjunct Moon, Neptune square Venus, and Neptune square Mars. She is very emotional and delusional in her approach to reality, albeit extremely generous and kind.

posted September 10, 2008 08:19 PM         

You definitely should be very proud of your son. He sounds like a sweetheart!

Mars/Neptune can indicate deception and dishonesty if a person chooses to exhibit those traits. It's kind of like how Mercury square Jupiter can indicate someone is a liar, but I do know some people with this aspect that are very honest. Every aspect has a shadow side and some people choose to give into an aspect's negative side.

posted September 10, 2008 10:31 PM         

So yeah, I trust Neptune on personal planets just as long as it's not thrown in the midst of too many nasty squares, then I think it would cause the two to think and feel they are on the same page but in reality they aren't.

posted September 10, 2008 11:19 PM         

But still, intuition comes in handy. All my life, people have commented on how understood I made them feel. And it seems to have worked in my favor professionally and academically as well. I've been given an offer on every job interview and audition I've ever had. Also, every oral exam I had in school, I got a 100 on, even times when I doubted whether my understanding of the material corresponded with such a high grade. Maybe this was all just luck--I do have Jupiter in my 10th--but I think Neptune is at play here.* It seems to hypnotize people into thinking I'm giving them exactly what they're looking for, even when I may not be. So maybe it's not a question of whether the Neptune individuals are trustworthy, but whether those interacting with them can trust their own judgment of the Neptune person.

*This post was far more boastful than I prefer to be (I'm throwing up a little bit now, actually). But Neptune is always getting knocked around so I wanted to defend it and show how it can be extremely fortunate and positive "in the real world" as well.

posted September 11, 2008 07:00 AM         

Neptune in Scorpio 8th House:

**highly intuitive
**just seem to 'know' things (jupiter in gemini helps with that too)
**visual daydreamer
**incredibly vivid dreams
**meditative and reflective
**spiritual

TRINE Saturn in the 11th House

**older friends
**prefers small groups
**loyal
**single-minded
**help others to advance

........all points to a form of 'loneliness' and inability to trust. HOWEVER, on the flip side, Neptune trine Saturn can work to make dreams come true!!!

I like my Neptune where it is

posted September 11, 2008 07:18 AM         

- exactly conjunct NN
- conjunct ASC
- conjunct Mars
- exactly squares chartruler Jupiter
- Jupiter in Pisces square Neptune in Sag actually

I think I have quite a bit of Neptune - influence.

I never did any drugs nor alcohol, but partly because I just felt it might be riskier for me than other people.
I can be pretty intuitive, but at the same time very clueless as to how I am and what I want and what I feel (Mars rules my IC).
And I know I am prone to dreams and illusions. On the other hand my dreams sometimes are freakingly accurate.

I wouldn`t want to miss my Neptune - he is challenging, yes, of course, but he also makes my life, my inner life, very rich and deep, even though I have to take care not to lose sight onto what is real.

Actually the question what is real, spiritually reality, and what is just an illusion, is the one I have wondered about the most all my life.

posted September 11, 2008 09:47 AM         

at least one of them itīs not gay since i can remember - itīs one of my favorites too and yours as well!

taklin about the Neptune thingy...well im also fit in this thread.

Of crouse i trust cause i have it in my chart and i know what it feels like - itīs not about disonesty or being deceitful - itīs more like what DD said:

we have issues about counsciously discerning about what is in fact reality - true and simple - and what is the illusions that we choose to see only not to suffer when looking at reality.

i have

wide sun trine neptune 9
mercury square neptune
venus trine neptune
neptune sextile saturn and pluto
wide square of AC and neptune

how much more Neptunian could i be?

it hurts a lot of times? Yes
but it helps me strengtening and finding my own Spirituality and looking at of the others

im evry sensitive and tend to get sucked into otherīs realities when having problems.

a lot of time i seem "spaced out" and others if i come to talk openly i can talk into infinu~ity also - others wont get me the way i am also (merc in the 12th).

i love the venus trine neptune

"Venus in Conjunction, Trine, Sextile to Neptune

You only want to see the best in other people. Romances have a kind of dreamy, idealistic undercurrent that runs through them.
Your soul is seeking a spiritual mate and it's highly possible that you'll meet one or more "kindred souls." This aspect can bring reunions with those you have known in former lifetimes." - VERY TRUE

posted September 11, 2008 11:53 AM         

My Neptune aspects are in synchronicity with my life as Dyslexic,Dyspraxic person who was in the special education system for 3 years. I had auditory therapy, speech therapy,phonics training,and fine motor skills therapy to correct my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. I am the son of interracial black man/white woman couple (some would say that I am mulatto,multiethnic,mixed, and even confused which I have been in regards to my ethnic identity). Both my parents have Dyslexic,Dyspraxic traits. I think mainly in pictures,strong 3D visualization ability(I think in pictures,visualize things in my mind's eye nonstop),and vivid imagination and overall rightbrained which are known to be common in Dyslexics. I am very intuitive...as for being psychic,well...I have my moments. I tend to have vivid dreams including lucid dreams in which I do a lot of flying. I believe that the dreamword is a real live matrix where souls connect to each other. Therefore,I believe that it's possible to contact real people in dreams. I believe in spirits,astral visits,and other metaphysical phenomena. I am a highly sensitive person as in that I am very responsive to external stimuli in every way,and it's easy for me to get sensory overload (sensory integration issues are common in people with learning disabilities and autistic spectrum disorders) I am also a very forgetful,absentminded person which is common with Dyspraxics. I am very softspokened,and that could be due to my oral Dyspraxia difficulties as in difficulties coordinating my speech. I tend to mumble. I also can get easily confused when it comes to words,sequences,directions,and time which is common in people with learning disabilities. I also have a history of misdiagnosis of schizoaffective bipolar disorder by psychiatrists , and so that made me want to speak out against psychiatric misdiagnosing of people with learning disabilities and other neurodivergent conditions.
I am a highly idealistic person stemming from special education experiences and my multiethnic,multicultural background. I believe in treating others like I want to be treated. I believe that there should be unity and universal love on our planet. I am very romantic,and I have a history of writing poetry. I have also been very misunderstood in regards to my intelligence(mistaking for being stupid...especially in special education years),my sexual preference(mistakening for being gay),and my multiethnic background(been mistakened for other ethnic backgrounds like Pacific Islander,Puerto Rican,Middle Eastern). People have a hard time pinning me down. I don't believe in organized religion. My own religious beliefs fit with Neopaganism,New Age,and Unitarian Universalism. I believe in reincarnation,pastlives,and karma. I can be very compassionate...especially for people who have problems. I am not the type of person who looks down on people,and so I don't see people as whiners. There is a history of alcoholism,drug addiction in my family. As for me, I don't smoke,drink,nor use drugs. Both my parents are highly Neptunian. My mother has Sun in 12th trine Neptune in 5th. My father had Moon in Pisces and stationary Neptune. Even my maternal grandfather had Moon in Pisces and stationary Saturn in Pisces oppose Neptune. I never knew my father because he had a drug problem, and I had a stepfather until I was 18 years old.

My ideal partner is somebody that is highly sensitive,idealistic,and spiritual to fit with my anima of Moon in Pisces square Neptune and Venus parallel Neptune.

I literally can't see clearly. I am very nearsighted with astigmatism.

That's pretty much how I am as a Neptunian. I am Neptunian in many ways.
Swimming was my favorite hobby as a child. I was an excellent swimmer at the age of 3 years old. I was in the United States Navy for 7 years,and so I have traveled a lot on the waters. I was even born in San Francisco,California - a city on the very end of the West Coast...so a city near water.

posted September 11, 2008 12:45 PM         

Deception and dishonesty can be strong words for interactions such as Sun SQ Neptune and Mars SQ Neptune. I've noticed people with these aspects can tend to makes things out to be better than they really are, but it's not necessarily done with ill intention. It's like they want to save you from the reality, just in the same way as they would like to ignore it and pretend things are better. But if you are like me and would rather be thumped with the bitter truth and get on with it, that can take some adjustment.

Glaucus and I share the horrible interaction of Saturn Opposite the Jupiter/Neptune Conjunction in Sag {just the Moon is changed around, mine is Conjunct the Pluto part. The M.C makes it into a T-Square.} Jupiter pumps up Neptune, but Saturn bursts it with a sharp pin. The Moon is in the middle dealing with the fall-out. It's a stinker, all right.

posted September 12, 2008 06:29 AM         

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Deception and dishonesty can be strong words for interactions such as Sun SQ Neptune and Mars SQ Neptune. I've noticed people with these aspects can tend to makes things out to be better than they really are, but it's not necessarily done with ill intention.

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There's a hint of truth here with my Sun SQ Neptune. I have been 'guilty' of letting others know that things are okay for a variety of well-intended reasons - to save face; to ease worry; to create a better condition.