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posted September 15, 2008 05:35 PM         

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with pluto and moon conjunction in synastry, whos more obessive?

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posted September 15, 2008 05:36 PM         

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Pluto. The party with pluto can only act in a plutonic fashion, moon person can only act lunar. These qualities apply to all aspects, party with the planet acts as the planet would.

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posted September 15, 2008 05:40 PM         

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ok, 23
heres the thing, my pluto conjuct his moon, his pluto trine my moon, and we have pluto with pluto conjunction.
his own chart has a moon and pluto conjunction also.

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posted September 15, 2008 05:42 PM         

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Well then you are both obsessed with each other. The quality of the aspect indicates how you relate to each other, trine - positive harmonious/lazy, conj - intensity, both good and bad. His natal moon-pluto indicates qualities in himself, he has intense/secretive emotions. Pluto conj pluto is generational. I don't think it would add much to the equation.

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posted September 15, 2008 05:53 PM         

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ok, i had this weirdest feeling... we had our second date last nite, i dont wanna jump to conculsion just yet, but i almost suspect he might be my true love (for 6-12 months at least). i never went out with havin my pluto conjunct someone's moon b4, so just wanna know b4 hand wht im gettin myself into,lol

o, btw, we have our moons trine too!

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posted September 15, 2008 05:55 PM         

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could be or could be not. If you think that he is something special, he might be. The feeling has happened to me. However, I still don't think the conj plutos add to the special feeling but the aspects to it in your chart might. Everyone your age has pluto conj pluto and I'm sure you don't have special feelings for everyone your age.

PS you must have trine moons if one is conj your plutos and one is trining your plutos. Moon trine moon is supposed to be nice, I don't think I have this with anyone I know.

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posted September 15, 2008 05:58 PM         

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Have you checked your nodes and/or vertices for aspects? Things like that can give a sense of fatedness. What saturn aspects do you have?

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posted September 15, 2008 06:08 PM         

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his vertex conjunct my node & chiron, his vertex also opp my uranus and jupiter (doesnt sound like a good aspects this one?)
his chiron conjunct my saturn; his saturn trine my saturn & vertex;

my vertex conjunct his mars, my vertex sextile his uranus. my chiron trine his neptune.

hows that 23

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posted September 15, 2008 06:11 PM         

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Well there you go. All that vx and node activity. Uranus is around a vx, sounds a bit of action required but nothing is fatal. The fact that you have so much happening between these two points indicates why you feel the way you do.

Here's a site to ponder on:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry.html

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posted September 15, 2008 06:17 PM         

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his nodes trine my pluto and conjunct my mercury

i hope u meant north node, rite?

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posted September 15, 2008 06:21 PM         

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SN/NN it doesn't matter. NN conj are very strong, the planet will pull the NN person forward and the node person will sense a sense of happening and that the planet person is useful. The other way for SN conj - holding back maybe with a feeling of a need to move forward, a sense of familiarity with the planet person. Planet will tell how they will pull the person forward for NN conj. So pluto conj NN would be that they use their plutonic qualities to pull them forward. But because its generational, everyone in that person's age will do that to them. If his node is on your NN, then so should his moon be on your NN right?

Btw - Q of orbs - orbs are always up for conjecture, I'm pretty tight with mine, I tend to use 3 degrees max for things like vx and Nodes.

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posted September 15, 2008 07:39 PM         

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I'm glad you asked this question, I didn't realize the nodes were so important in synastry. One question that is probably silly but I still don't know the answer: how do I find the vertex?

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posted September 15, 2008 07:58 PM         

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Astro.com --> Extended Chart selection --> scroll down to "Additional Objects" and select vertex --> then press enter.

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posted September 15, 2008 08:17 PM         

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Thanks so much 23!

His Vertex is trine my Saturn and is sextile my Sun
My Vertex squares his MC and trines his NN
His NN trines my Vertex and Neptune, opposes my Pluto, and sextiles my Moon
My NN trines his Chiron

This is really interesting. Thanks so much for the info.. now I'm off to figure out what all of this means.
All of this is really creepy when you consider that Pluto was crossing his Desc when we met.

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posted September 15, 2008 08:35 PM         

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That's OK
The hard aspects (square, opp, conj) are really important. I don't tend to look at the soft aspects, I'm sure they have minor effect still.

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posted September 15, 2008 08:45 PM         

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So then the Vertex square MC is the only really important aspect? Since the NN opposed Pluto refers to a generation of people?

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posted September 15, 2008 08:53 PM         

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Well pluto would have some effect still, anything aspecting to the nodes would (notwithstanding that pluto is generational). In the above example, it was because Bullhead had pluto conj pluto with her partner and that made it a bit more generational. Still its important. Compared to another person of another age, she would not have that aspect but she would have it with everyone of her age. If there is a time gap between you and the other person, then that person's pluto aspecting your node might be important.

Also the positive aspects would have some impact, as to what they are like, I'm not sure. I think I read somewhere they would be like a weak opposition.

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posted September 15, 2008 09:07 PM         

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Thanks so much 23, I feel like I've learned a lot today!

Something else that is creeping me out... I ran our first meeting chart, and I'll be darned if there is not ANOTHER grand cross!!

I really am trying to understand my relationship with this man. I love him dearly, but the situation is so complicated that I am not sure if we will ever be able to be together. The hard part is that I know he has the same feelings for me so that makes it harder to walk away from. It is just horrible timing on our parts.

Thanks for all your input!

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posted September 15, 2008 09:15 PM         

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Well I think sometimes its just better to walk away from astrology, in that don't let things bother you astrologically. Live your relationship as it is, don't let astrology dictate or make your relationship into what it says. As for the first chart, the grand cross could indicate anything. I haven't looked at first meeting charts myself.

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posted September 15, 2008 09:30 PM         

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One more question. Is Vertex hard aspects in the composite important as well? If so, we have Vertex opposed Mars in composite, and Vertex opposed Venus and the NN in Davison. lol

I know what you mean about walking away and not thinking too much. I usually don't, but I have just had this incredible urge for the past month to have anyone tell me what the "future" holds, and of course no one can do that. So I set about trying to delve deeper into astrology instead.

Most of the advice I have been given has been for me to have hope and faith that things will work out how they are supposed to... but I have had to fight so hard for everything I have wanted that the idea of leaving something to fate scares me to death! I am trying my best though.

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posted September 16, 2008 04:52 AM         

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One more question. Is Vertex hard aspects in the composite important as well? If so, we have Vertex opposed Mars in composite, and Vertex opposed Venus and the NN in Davison. lol

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I guess so. Not sure on it 100% though!

Good luck with the search

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