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parafora
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posted September 16, 2008 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for parafora     Edit/Delete Message
I have these aspects to my aries asc

venus trine asc,neptune trine asc
jup inconj asc,uranu inconj asc
merc opp asc,pluto opp asc

(inconjs are not very significant i guess. venus,nept prob work on the looks.)

I am esp curious abt pluto and merc aspects - i read some descriptions on the net which were not very clear. The reason i am asking this is i seem to have lotsa hidden anger, i have not stood up for myself in the past, even today i can't use the kind of expletives others use - with an aries asc? go figure!!

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blue moon
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posted September 16, 2008 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Well you have Venus and Neptune Trine the Ascendant, don't you? It's more make love than make war.

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parafora
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posted September 16, 2008 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for parafora     Edit/Delete Message
thanks BM again

does any one else have this issue?

have a few pluto aspects other than opp to ascendant

merc conj pluto,moon trine and venus sext pluto

have a feeling though that pluto opp to asc is prob related to repressed anger - or, may be i AM actually expressing myself forcefully and but not being conscious of it..

any thoughts?
(also, i just remembered, I have 29 deg libra merc)

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posted September 16, 2008 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
You're welcome.

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Necroticism
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posted September 16, 2008 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Necroticism     Edit/Delete Message
I have sun/pluto opposite ASC. I always thought this had to do with shyness or racial issues or something.

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blue moon
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posted September 16, 2008 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
My chart carries Mars CNJ NN Square Ascendant. There is a piece on a website about it that is so like me it is funny. It's not flattering though. If I can find it I'll put it up.

Sun/Pluto Opposite Ascendant sounds like you give off a serious image, like you are not going to be interested in casual relationships. That could work as a great filter for time wasters. But before you learn to use it to your advantage it might make you feel like you put people off by being too heavy duty. Just a thought, I could be wrong.

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AscendantPluto opposition the Ascendant shows that you attract people with powerful egos and strong temperaments. You have a strong desire for close, intimate contact with many of the persons you associate with, and this alone should be a warning to you. When you discover that someone is trying to make you over to satisfy his own desires, make a fast exit. But this is also a sure sign that you try to do the same thing to those you are attracted to. You make extensive demands of the people you deal with, but you resent it when similar demands are made of you. This is essentially the meaning of the old saying 'Birds of a feather flock together'. Such problems can ruin otherwise fascinating relationships.

Your talents lie in your ability to mold people, so public relations is a field to which you should apply yourself. Political, social and financial activities are other areas in which you could find a great deal of satisfaction. You express yourself with dramatic flair, and people are impressed with your ability to command attention.

You generally get what you want when you want it, and you don't tolerate refusal of your demands. If you are motivated to change people's attitudes about their social obligations, you can accomplish miracles. You will be able to gain the support of your friends in seeking to improve intolerable social conditions. However, elected officials will try to discredit you and turn public opinion against you. But you aren't afraid of such tactics, because you have information about such officials that could be equally embarrassing to them.

In personal relationships you may have difficulty in achieving the success you enjoy in public conquests. When you relate to people at close range, you can become burdensome and make others feel uncomfortable. You understand how people think, and may even be psychically tuned to them. This ability helps you deal with people.

Astrology aspects - Sun opposition AscendantThose with Sun on the Descendant can sometimes seem to 'give' their Sun to others, in as much as they give power to other people. I have particularly noticed this with Sun-Descendant clients, for they seem to take more than usual notice of what might be said during a consultation, tending as they do to ascribe far too much importance to the views and opinions of others at the expense of their own and frequently looking to other people to make their decisions for them. The astrologer-client relationship, like any other counselling situation, is based on equality and sharing. If one person could be said to be more 'important' than the other, then that person is clearly the client. In the most extreme instances, the person with Sun in the 7th, when in the role of client, is reluctant to accept this fact. He / she gives away his / her importance, fights shy of the limelight, and tries to manipulate the situation so that the counsellor is centre-stage and the one pulling the strings in the client's life. Where this does happen, it is usually repeating a situation that has been created in their other partnerships, whether personal relationships or working partnerships. All too easily, the Sun-Descendant person can believe that his / her life is fated and that he / she is merely a pawn in the hands of the heavens or of others' superior power.

This is not always the case, of course, but certainly Sun-Descendant, rather like a Sun Libran, does like to share the decision-making process and does like someone to do things with. Relationship and partnership are very important to this type. It's a good placement for people who work in a partnership, and indeed for anyone who works in a one-to-one situation. In some cases, the Sun-Descendant might say 'I am nothing without a partner; life has no meaning without another person'. More positively, Sun-Descendant people might say 'I find myself through close interaction with another person'.

This is a very good placement for analysts, therapists and the like. They can find their identity through close interaction with another person, and, similarly, in a one-to-one situation they can enable others to shed light on themselves. They may even achieve personal distinction and recognition through relationship. It's a common placement in the charts of lawyers too; they often work in partnerships, and on each case they work in partnership with their clients; usually, also, lawyers are involved in litigation with 'open enemies', and are working, ideally, for justice and fairness.

The father of the person with Sun on the Descendant was usually viewed by the individual more as a husband to the mother than a father to the child. Sometimes this is literally true, where the father-figure in the home during the formative years is not in fact the biological father; but usually this is more the psychological experience than the actual one. Father was concerned with being a partner (in the marital or business sense) above all else. If the Sun is in the 7th house, the individual will seek through marriage a relationship with the father archetype, either by playing the role of father or by expecting the 'other' to do it for him / her. If the Sun is in the 6th house, the individual considers working partnerships to be especially important. In any event, the individual is usually 'fathering' others in the sense of providing some sort of identity for them.

Descendant-Sun people are proud of their partnerships. This is the type who, aged 70 or 80, can be found linking arms with their spouses and stating proudly that they have been married fifty years or so. It is not that relationships are more likely to last with the Sun conjunct the Descendant, or that it is necessarily a good thing if they do, or even that the relationships will be necessarily better than any other people's. But with this placement relationship tends to be the most important thing, and something of which to be proud.


http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/sun-opposition-ascendant.php

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Scorp31
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posted September 16, 2008 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorp31     Edit/Delete Message
I have the following

Jupiter square Ascendant orb +3°26'


Neptune semi-square Ascendant orb -0°14'


Moon trine Ascendant orb -7°35'

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Sun: Scorpio
Moon: Capricorn
Ascendant: Libra

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Arnicka
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posted September 16, 2008 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arnicka     Edit/Delete Message
I have Merc opp ASC: have attracted lots of verbal people into my life and wonder "why do they talk so much?!" but then if im around a quiet person im the first to fire off and jabber on about one thing or another, very quickly at that [aqua merc], because the silence creeps me out. also noticed that i value intellectual rapport and "enjoying takling to someone" much over any physical attraction there may be ~ so you may notice that too? Also you will have a tendency to act out your dsc and its conjunctions if any in close relationships. Just try to keep your own mind and dont let others influence your thinking too much so that you avoid looking like you dont have your own opinion [i used to struggle very much with this before].

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Arnicka
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posted September 16, 2008 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arnicka     Edit/Delete Message
ok i didnt see you had pluto conj dsc. so you might have merc pluto conj? so the energies of that conj you may perceive as being "not you" and belonging to other people. so you have to realize that you are the perceptive one and have laser like insights into things and use that ability to your advantage - own it and it won't be creeping up on you.

eta: yes start swearing at home and see how it makes you feel. the anger needs to get out and you need to learn positive ways to verbally assert yourself with others. you dont exactly have to swear at them all the time but initially letting those words out when alone will start freeing up some of that energy. itll feel very strange and not you at all in the beginning [like for me when i had to start using my mercury] but if you go on it will begin to feel like a real power point in your chart in relation to others [if you use the more positive side of that aspect]. see ya

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parafora
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posted September 17, 2008 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for parafora     Edit/Delete Message
thanks arnicka, interesting advice! I do have the merc pluto conj, i sometimes think i can see through ppl - also have neptune my 12th house ruler in 8th house,which helps

As i mentioned, i noticed i have a 29 deg libra merc - is that a cusp?

Also, i read an interesting article about decanates - where it said 9 deg as physical peak, 19 deg as mental peak, 29 deg as spiritual peak. interesting!

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PLF
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posted September 20, 2008 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
Punching Bag - Helped me a lot!

Maybe it can help you as well.

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Tigerlily
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posted September 20, 2008 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message
Aspects to my Aqua ASC (sticking to basic astrology, I'll exclude asteroids, midpoints, Draconics, and Solstice Points):

ASC quincunx Sun (exact)

ASC quincunx Mercury (1 degree)

ASC square Saturn (4 degrees)

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PeaceAngel
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posted September 20, 2008 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
My Ascendant aspects:

Chiron conjunct Asc.
Sun conjunct Asc.
Uranus opposite Asc.
Neptune trine Asc.

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