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Topic: How Much Weight Do You Put On Unaspected Planets?
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meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1987 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 08:18 AM
...specifically when it comes to synastry. I have done research and the answers i find are inconstant. I am either told that the planet in question- say... Venus, for example- if unaspected, means that there will be a lack of THOSE qualities in the relationship. OR that it simply means work will have to be done in those areas. Now, that's all fine and dandy except that i know TWO couples who are very much in love and one of the partners in each relationship have unaspected Venus'. SO, i am asking your opinions. What does it mean to have an unaspected planet? (Not just Venus) IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6677 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 08:55 AM
metaMaybe it just means that that part of yourself and your life with be unaffected (unaspected) by other influences. It's kind of like the empty houses theories. I've been told two things with that - that either those areas of your life will be filled by others or that they are not important in this lifetime for you and your growth. IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted September 23, 2008 09:09 AM
At first I thought you meant two couple swho have no Venus synastry aspects. But maybe that partly answers the question. What happens when an unaspected Venus makes a powerful aspect to someone else's chart? Does that offer Venus the opportunity to express itself? IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6677 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 09:14 AM
BM quote: What happens when an unaspected Venus makes a powerful aspect to someone else's chart?
I think that that person brings something of them that they hadn't known was there or had been sitting dormant waiting to be awakened. Triggers it. And maybe the person with the unaspected planet makes that part of themselves and their dynamic with the other person uncomplicated because there's no other influences upon them. So unaspected Venus person could just offer uncomplicated love and romance to the other person - dependent, of course, upon sign and house. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1987 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 01:31 PM
BM, quote: At first I thought you meant two couple swho have no Venus synastry aspects.
That's kinda what i mean. For example: In Couple 1. The girl's Venus is untouched by the Boy. However, Boy's Venus is touched greatly by the girl. I know them both, and i would say they have a very sweet relationship... but it left me wondering if HIS attachment is deeper than HERS. I'm trying to figure out whether that is what is indicated by the fact that HER Venus is untouched. But i'm not just talking solely about Venus. I mean, in synastry if the Sun, Moon, Mars, ASC, or DC is untouched does that mean that there is a block there? That's my question. IP: Logged |
Dragoon Knowflake Posts: 148 From: Saturn Registered: Dec 2007
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posted September 23, 2008 01:55 PM
sometimes the unaspected planet is the dominant force in your life. most of your motivations in life will be from there. not only the planet but also the sign too.IP: Logged |
ladya22 Knowflake Posts: 86 From: Florida Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 23, 2008 02:09 PM
I agree with Dragoon unaspected planet i think has more dominance because it is not "watered down" by any other aspects it is free to express itself in its entirety. The sign and house will be very telling as to how and what though.hth IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted September 23, 2008 06:27 PM
Interesting issue, I can only volunteer what has happened to me. I have an unaspected venus, my partner makes no aspects to my venus synastrically (except his union is conj my venus, his hera opposes). My venus is the ruler of the DC and 2nd house. We have an unaspected venus in your composite chart. Yet we are together, I can only assume it's because a few planets of his makes contact with my moon, we have some tight saturn synastry and my OOB Mars conj his venus/sun. Plus my jupiter/mars/moon/neptune/pluto all make aspects with his venus. Explain that folks!EDIT - however, I can tell you that my venus is VERY sensitive to synastry aspects, I feel totally out of control when someone touches my venus. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1987 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 06:49 PM
23,So how do you feel about your partner? Are you deeply in love? Or is this a light relationship on your part? That poses another question- What about the affects of asteroids? I mean, Venus can be unaspected by other planets, but if it's touched by the partners asteroids, will that have any affect? Or will the affect left by the asteroids fall short in comparison to planets...? IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted September 23, 2008 07:12 PM
In terms of asteroids, I think because I have moon in libra/7th, I have a need to relate and his asteroidal contact with my venus, in particular the union must have agreed very much with the moon. Likewise, his moon is his 7th house ruler and the only aspect it makes to my planets is conj my ura (my 11th house ruler). So obviously for me, being an Aqu and 11th house ruler connection appealed to me very much on some level. We are very good friends too (our composite asc is Aqu too). Also his moon is conj ura - seeks a friend in a female companion. EDIT - his NN conj my vx, this occurs in my 8th and in his 11th. His moon is 6 degrees from my Vx (probably too far for a conj) IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted September 23, 2008 07:16 PM
Meta - sorry to divert the topic a bit but this is what I felt about myself in my earlier days in life and in my relationship (but it can be applied in composite unaspected planets and synastry unaspected): http://innerself.com/Astrology/unaspected.htm quote: Or, to give an example of Venus: A couple of years ago a couple consulted me and asked for an astrological analysis of their relationship. They had been married almost thirty years, but the woman was in a kind of crisis. She didn't know if she loved her husband, or if she had ever loved him, and claimed she didn't really know what love actually was. Her husband didn't take this personally. His commentary was simple and honest, "We've gotten along very well together all these years, and I just know she loves me, and I love her. So something else must be going on, and that's why we're here." His wife, however, had gotten hold of the nagging thought that she didn't know what love was, and therefore also didn't know if she loved her husband.Her Venus created no aspects whatsoever! After I had explained what an unaspected planet meant in general, and how an unaspected Venus works in particular, something finally clicked in her. She understood that the unfulfilled and searching feeling was inside herself and had nothing to do with her marriage. "If I look back at it that way," she said, "then we have in fact gotten along very well together all these years, and I wouldn't want to be without my husband." There was a moment of silence, and then she said, "Maybe that's what love is. Maybe I shouldn't be getting myself so worked up about it anymore, and accept that I can't catch or grasp it all." This is a nice example of how, with an unaspected planet, we can run the risk of misjudging a situation because with all that "searching" we begin to mull and fret. Just as often, though, all that searching has yet another result, namely the idea that we "aren't there yet," or can't do certain things. In the case of the unaspected Venus, this can express itself in a feeling that others don't think we're nice, or that we weren't cut out for love, or that we feel inferior because of our looks and/or emotions. In every instance this feeling does not corroborate the real situation or talents and capabilities. Once again though, the fact is that we don't see it at first. And even with an unaspected Venus, we can be very sweet, mediate very well, and have a finely tuned sense of harmony! Hidden in an unaspected planet like this is a great talent waiting to be discovered.
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meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1987 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 24, 2008 11:22 AM
Wow, thanks 23. Thanks for sharing your personal story and that quote.So you do love him deeply- even though your Venus is untouched. But you said your moon/DC comes into play, so that helps as well... ANOTHETR question (sorry i'm being so curious), say her Venus is untouched in the synastry with him, but her Mars touches his Venus. AND in her natal chart HER Mars trines HER Venus. Would that be like he IS making an aspect to her Venus inadvertantly...? Does that make any sense? IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted September 24, 2008 04:23 PM
Meta - it never occurred to me yesterday but my 7th house has his moon, pluto, uranus in it. I have my moon, pluto, uranus in my 7th as well. Also his 7th has saturn. My saturn is conj his saturn (so my saturn is obviously in his 7th). I never thought about the house overlays. quote: ANOTHETR question (sorry i'm being so curious), say her Venus is untouched in the synastry with him, but her Mars touches his Venus. AND in her natal chart HER Mars trines HER Venus. Would that be like he IS making an aspect to her Venus inadvertantly...? Does that make any sense?
Yes, what you are saying is that a synastry aspect replicates what she has natally. I wouldn't say it touches her venus because it doesn't but the replication I'd say might have some impact, it will seem familiar to her and that is why she is attracted to him. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted September 24, 2008 04:23 PM
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