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lisasimpson243
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posted September 24, 2008 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisasimpson243     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone have personal experience of this transiting aspect? I've had it on me since last year and it's not scheduled to end until late next year . Transiting pluto has been going through my 10th house and will soon enter my 11th house while my natal pluto is in my 7th house. To put it short, I've lost a job and have been out of work since April, I've lost the only guy who seemed interested in me, been trying to get work and nothing, I'm just wondering what the hell is going on with my life.

Anyone else has stories to tell or advice on this aspect?

lisa

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Kick It
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posted September 24, 2008 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
What is your Ascendant?

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lisasimpson243
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posted September 24, 2008 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisasimpson243     Edit/Delete Message
Pisces Asc, Virgo Sun

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lisasimpson243
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posted September 25, 2008 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisasimpson243     Edit/Delete Message
No one at all?

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deuxantares
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posted September 25, 2008 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
Transiting Pluto square my natal Pluto and Venus. It will soon square my natal Uranus and then Mars, (these 4 planets are in a stellium in my 5th House).

It is opposing my natal Saturn and conjuncting my natal Jupiter. It is passing thru my 7th House and I am soooo looking forward to its departure from there soon.

I've been having challenging issues at work/business and in relationships. My only consolation is the knowledge that all this shall pass.

Pluto as the planet of transformation is teaching us to let go -- of things, people, situations, everything that doesn't work anymore in our life. As a Scorpio this is very difficult for me but I have learned to embrace this lesson.

Lisa, I wish you strength and grace. Relax and be more patient; you will find the right job and the right partner soon. I want to leave you with this Zen wisdom: "Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional."

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lisasimpson243
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posted September 25, 2008 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisasimpson243     Edit/Delete Message
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional."

Thanks Deux.....I'll remember this.

Lisa

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Glaucus
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posted September 25, 2008 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
My girlfriend broke up with me during that transit on April 2nd of this year.

Transiting Pluto was stationary retrograde exactly conjunct my Venus/Node midpoint too!

Transiting Pluto is in my 4th house squaring my Pluto in Libra in 1st

I am curious what else is going to happen. It could be a personal health crisis for me which could transform me.
I have Pluto square Sun/Mars midpoint, and so transiting Pluto conjuncting Sun/Mars midpoint. So that adds more to physical transformation. It can be great for willpower and strength. There can be possible violence that can affect me. I have secondary progressed/solar arc Sun conjuncting my Mars/Pluto midpoint,square my Ascendant which adds to that. I will have to be careful. I can use my intense physical energy in positive ways like being more physically active.


I also had Moon in Pisces sextile Pluto in my lunar return charts for quite some and will have that well into next year.

I also will have Moon in Libra 3rd sextile Juno-Pluto in Sagittarius 4th in my upcoming solar return period that starts on October 28th. It could actually be a good year for transformation and spiritual growth that can involve relationship with a woman. It could even be a possible relocation because of relationship with a woman. Interestingly, Uranus in Pisces in 7th makes an exact 9th harmonic aspect to Pluto in 4th which adds to the case that relocation can be connected to a relationship.


I have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio along with Sun contraparallel Pluto and Moon quincunx Pluto. I also Plutonian esoteric aspects,Mars biquintile Pluto and Venus septile Pluto. Transformation is a big theme in my life.

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lisasimpson243
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posted September 25, 2008 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisasimpson243     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry to hear that Glaucus. Pluto in 1st house must be a really interesting placement....do you find you re-invent yourself often?

I have pluto (10th house) square pluto (7th house)and pluto (10th) conjunct jupiter (10th) hence my loss of job. I am hoping I'm put on the right track careerwise now plus I've learnt not to be cavalieer in my attitude towards work.

Pluto has removed alot of relationships but strengthened the one with my family which I am grateful for. It's supposed to form an aspect to my venus early next year so I'll see what that brings.

Lisa

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Glaucus
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posted September 25, 2008 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
It's ok. I admit that the breakup has devastated me. I have been feeling crappy ever since to the point that I have problems sleeping. I am having a hard time letting go and moving on. I am constantly looking for signs,and thinking that I have found them. I would be very hopeful,and then be very hopeless. I was going through hard Saturn transits(transiting Saturn square my 7th house ruler Neptune in Sag in 3rd,oppose my 11th house ruler Moon in Pisces in 6th,square my retro 5th/6th house ruler Saturn in Gemini in 9th,square my 4th/7th house ruler Jupiter in Sag in 3rd,square my Midheaven in Gemini, and conjunct my Ascendant in Virgo) during this time. I just got done with transiting Saturn conjunct my Ascendant. I love her more than anything,and I wish that she will come back to me. But, I know that there is a strong possibility that she never will. I have to ultimately prepare for it. Nonetheless, I am still in pain and hurt a lot. I go to sleep with a heavy heart and wake up with a heavy heart.

Pluto in 1st is more about my personal intensity as well as my transformation. I don't think that I really invent myself. I have struggled with my identity...especially racially. A black astrologer named Mu'Min Bey said that Pluto has to do with race,but I am not sure about that. I do know that I struggle with racial identity as a person who is son of a black man and white woman like Barack Obama. I know what it's like to deal with confusion and wanting to know where I fit in the world. I know what it's like to be torn between blacks and whites. The presidential race made me confront my ethnic identity. I still refuse the one drop rule. I feel that I should always embrace all my heritages and not just my black heritage. I have found this presidential race to be very stressful because it is so racially charged. I even felt that it brought out racial tension between my white girlfriend and me. She wanted Hillary to win. I was neutral until I started like Obama more in February of this year. This presidential race has really gotten me so concerned about racism in USA. I wish that we would all just get along. I strongly doubt Obama will be elected,but I am hopeful. It's not because of our shared ethnic heritage. I am a liberal Democrat,and I wish for a democrat to be elected.
My Pluto in 1st could indicate my sexual problems. People spread rumors about my sexual preferences which aren't true. I do have hormonal imbalances that seem to give the wrong impression. It's the high estrogen levels that I have that probably help me relate well with women. Unfortunately,I think they prefer more manly types. My Sun in Scorpio trine Moon in Pisces also indicates my strong identification with the feminine. The masculine and feminine in me are in harmony with each other. But the trine is is in feminine signs,and so strongly feminine...it's in waters signs, so strongly sensitive,emotional. I guess my Sun conjunct true Black Moon Lilith does indicate that too. I am strong believer in women's rights. I joined National Organization for Women and even donate monthly to Equality Action Fund. I believe that males and females are basic equals. I can truly say that I am feminist. I am against sexism on both sides. That means that I am against women being sexist against men just like I am against men being sexist against women.

I wish to be with a woman that will see my strong feminine,emotional,sensitive nature as an asset and not a liability. I am attracted to women that are very intense,passionate,spiritual,feminine,emotional,sensitive too which fits with my anima of Venus in Scorpio and Moon in Pisces. I don't mind if they are feminists as long as they believe in equality. I definitely prefer them to be liberal and broadminded too. I like a woman who doesn't look down on others. A woman with compassion,tolerance, humility, and modesty goes a long way in attracting me.


Pluto is my 3rd house ruler, and so the transit can involve communication issues. That's definitely been the case...especially with my exgirlfriend.


I do believe that things will get much better for me in the end whether she comes back or I move on and find somebody else.

I don't regret loving her and being in a relationship with her. She's been a profound influence on my life. She changed my life forever for the better,and so I am grateful for that. Unfortunately,there are obstacles that made our relationship too hard to manage. Maybe it's a karmic thing. Maybe she and I will meet again in another life and get another shot at a lifelong relationship. I really do feel that she and I have been together in pastlives, and that we lost each other prematurely.


any ways...I wish her all the best no matter what happens.

I definitely want to spend the rest of my life in a lifelong relationship with a nice woman. I believe that I will. It takes time,patience,and perseverance.

I actually have the asteroid,Perseverantia in Aquarius in 5th house trine Pluto in Libra in 1st within 1 degree. hahahahah

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