posted October 08, 2008 07:05 PM         

I don't think it is a LEO-trait in general or alone, but ... Yes - I have experienced exactly what you mentioned above. A Leo-guy constantly lied to me, in order to secure my constant attention for him through deliberately creating worries and making me "jealous" in a way. In one of our lighter moments, he openly admitted it, he said: "Yes, sometimes I am a bit mean to you - but only to FEEL you better." He admitted that he craved more, more, more attention and he wanted to "provoke" this, as he explained to me (in one of your rare "honest" moments.) I thought that he might stop one day, when maybe he felt secure enough about my affection for him - but it got worse and worse.

I've experienced "jealousy" before, especially as a young woman, aged 20 to 25 or so. The more self-confidence I gained, the less jealous I was.

But this (Leo-)man really WANTED me to feel bad, miserable and unsecure. Someday I detected all the mindgames and powergames-structures in his behaviour - and fled fromt this hurt he put on me, for selfish reasons.

He was always quite evasive ... and behaved as "nothing was wrong" when I tried to put my finger on it.

So, all in all ... Personally, I would be VERY sensible in this regard from now on. I don't think that "love" should lead to SUCH an amount of insecurity.

Don't want to frighten you. But want to recommend you: Keep your eyes and ears open, and if you suspect that this guy is playing some "games" with you ... try to find out and erase these structures as soon as possible. I experienced "games" like these as extremely poisonous.

(I had a "beautfiful" Synastry with that guy, btw. tons of so called "karmic" aspects - don't get fooled by these...)

Trust your instincts! They're your closest friend. I'm not sure what is worse: If there was a real reason for being jealous ... or if a man provokes jealousy, deliberately, in order to feel "more important". Maybe the latter is even worse, more "betraying" and disrespectful, in a way ...?

posted October 08, 2008 09:41 PM         

Scorpios don't take that so well as they want to kill anyone on the fringes of thier periphreal vision as it comes to thier mate..

Aries and sag get excited by it and it heats things up in the bedroom.

We do it to keep you on your toes and because we can be slightly insecure at times although you won't see it. Let him know he is the sexiest thing alive (assuming he is) and he will purr like a kitty, trust me. At heart we are a loyal bunch.

posted October 08, 2008 11:50 PM         

It's a doozy. Thankfully, mine is about to be up (and next comes Pluto square Moon YAY).

posted October 09, 2008 05:17 PM         

Anyway, yeah, Leo men...you know, Leo men are for me, for some reason, the most easy males of the zodiac to handle (I don't know why either, I just feel like i see through them). I'm a naturally jealous person, very VERY jealous...but for some reason, Leo boys (and Aries boys as well) can't trigger it. Other signs have though.

I WILL say that when I am in love with someone, my jealousy is enormous. It's almost like the alarm bell that sounds and makes me excruciatingly aware of the depth of my feelings, and it hurts like hell. I don't act on my jealousy though - very rare for me to say anything unless things get out of hand.
I think if you're 'unnaturally' jealous, then perhaps your own feelings are alerting you to how much you care and it's overwhelming you, or something doesn't feel right.
I *have* seen Leo men and other fire sign males go out of their way to play that jealousy card. It annoys me at first, but knowing I'm able to play that game 100x better and choosing not to do it gives me a smug level of satisfaction. I hate to admit it, but it does.

I actually HAVE seen Leo-Scorpio mix very, very nicely....I have 2 friends who are Scorpio (him) and Leo (her), and they have been together 20 years and for me, it's actually the most amazing relationship to witness. They truly give me hope about relationships in general.

As far as planets squaring, I am far from being an expert, but yes...I am sure personal planet squares aren't fun. Pluto/Venus in hard contact are exciting and intense, and tend to be full of jealousy. The Pluto person seems to know exactly which buttons to push in Venus, and when, and just...keeps...doing it!!
I would think some Mars in hard aspect would do *something* too.

Anyway, that's my couple of pennies, for whatever it's worth
I'm sure you'll smooth this out and figure out how to handle it.

posted October 09, 2008 06:31 PM         

This is one of the reasons that Leo-Scorpio can be a bad match. Often for a Leo, letting you know that he/she is wildly desired, wanted and adored by the whole world is a form of titillating foreplay. I would NEVER do that to someone I was already involved with who had confessed his love and told me that I wad the most beautiful woman he'd ever seen...but I used to do it to guys before they had made those kind of declarations/commitments, so they could see how lovely and important me and my long blond hair were. (Partly joking, but not entirely. The signs Leos are compatible with--Aries, Gemini, Sag, Libra--take this kind of behavior the way it's intended, in my experience. They know we are loyal and seeking reassurance/adoration.

posted October 13, 2008 04:53 AM         

I was thinking about your post last night whilst brushing my teeth (I read it last week). Jealousy... oooh, horrid. Lexx said on another thread 'Jealousy is illogical'.

It is.

Doesn't mean you don't feel it.

However, on a more positive note. The jealousy is yours. Own it. You said yourself in your first post that he hasn't done anything to make you feel jealous. He said your jealousy is a problem now. So, using a logical train of thought, you're behaving irrationally eh? "Yes Wheels, I am". Thanks.

So we can also use a rational train of thought to stop you feeling like this, eh?

I came to a conclusion last night, whilst teeth brushing (and I'm suffering jealousy right now, as you are, with no logical reason - feels horrible doesn't it?) that I believe the Universe is good. Why would the Universe give me riches for me to deny them?
I have come to the conclusion that jealousy is ingratitude. Ingratitude because I do not realise the wonder and instead I see the bad. I am given all these lovely things (in the form of a man, as you have been given) only to believe the bad and disbelieve the good. Do you completely disbelieve the good too? Probably, if you are like me.

Logically though, (Libra here) if the bad is as bad as you think, can't the good also be as good? Believe the good. It's in your face and you're denying it.

Take the pressure off yourself. You sound so stressed. It's ok to feel jealousy as long as you realise it has everything to do with you and nothing to do with him. Jealousy is a form of self-obsession, I conclude. Think about him. Write down the things he has done and said that are good and when you feel bad, remind yourself that this is YOUR STUFF, and simply avoid that train of thought. You can wean yourself off from jealous thoughts I believe. It's fear talking, that's all. We all feel fear, don't let it rule you though. You will feel bad if you continue to think this way. You may lose him and then you will feel worse. You have an alternative - break this cycle of negativity. You can do it.

posted October 14, 2008 08:13 PM         

I am a Leo, and i think i should a few things up for you SC. Leos are notorious for loving attention, but i think that's a bit overplayed. This man wants your attention. YOUR attention. I'm sure that he loves the jealousy you're feeling. He may not admit it, but deep down you're fighting away any doubts he had about you wanting him. You are giving him proof with your possessiveness that you want him- body and soul. And what better complement, what better ego boost than to know your lover is going absolutely mad for you.