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Glaucus
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posted October 22, 2008 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
what orb should be used for declination transits?

I know that 1 degree is the standard orb for declination aspects in natal chart.

What about declination transits? would the orb be narrower. I have been considering a 30 minute of arc for them. maybe I should narrow it down even more. Using a narrower orb for declination transits seem to make sense like we use a narrower orb for transits in the longitude.


my current declination transits:

Transiting Saturn parallel my Ascendant - '00 separating
Transiting Uranus parallel my Uranus - '27 applying
Transiting Neptune parallel my Mars - '32 applying (getting within orb)
Transiting Pluto parallel my Venus - '37 applying (not too far off)


as for natal declination midpoints, I use no more than 10 minutes of arc. Using a narrower orb for declination midpoints seems to make sense to me like we use a narrower orb for midpoints in the longitude.

my closest declination midpoint is Sun parallel Jupiter/Uranus with 1 minute of arc, Sun parallel Moon/Venus midpoint with 3 minutes of arc ..so Sun = Moon/Venus = Jupiter/Uranus in the delinations. I have Venus parallel Mars/Jupiter midpoint with 2 minutes of arc and Venus contraparallel Pluto/MC midpoint with 4 minutes of arc

I am starting to have doubts about using lunar nodes in midpoints since my studying of planetary nodes. If lunar nodes could be used in midpoints, then why not planetary nodes too. After all,they are all celestial object orbital plane interfaces.


my amount of declination midpoints in relation
varying orbs for declination midpoints(excluding lunar nodes involved with midpoints) I used the Kepler astrology program to determine them.

10 minutes of arc - 6
15 minutes of arc - 11
20 minutes of arc - 14
25 minutes of arc - 18
30 minutes of arc - 21


I would think that using no more than 10 minutes of arc keeps the management of declination midpoints reasonable.
6 is a good amount of midpoints if you take in the consideration of the regular aspects in the declinations. In my case, I have 6. Therefore, a total of 12 declination measurements. Those are a very manageable amount.

I am also figuring out using varying orbs for midpoints in the longitude (excluding lunar nodes involved in midpoints)

opposition,conjunction - 1 degree
square - 30 minutes of arc
semisquare,sesquiquadrate - 15 minutes of arc


this leave me with

opposition,conjunction - 11
square - 3
semisquare,sesquiquadrate - 3

there is a total of 17 midpoints which is manageable amount of midpoints if you take in consideration the regular aspects in the longitudes


I think the aforementioned things would keep the Astrology measurements manageable.....especially if you are using houses and signs which adds more details. If you are using solely planetary geometrical system, then it's even more manageable.


I only used the luminaries,planets and the dwarf planet,Pluto. I didn't use Chiron nor other minor planets.

I am considering the regular use of the dwarf planets,Ceres and Eris.


Makemake and Haumea are other dwarf planets that are worth considering too. My own Haumea is 2'10 conjunct Ascendant and 3 minutes square Midheaven. Haumea named after Hawaiian fertility goddess. Sedna is also very likely to be classed as a dwarf planet too.

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blue moon
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posted October 22, 2008 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
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quote:
Makemake.....in the Rapa Nui mythology of Easter Island, was the creator of humanity, the god of fertility and the chief god of the "Tangata manu" or bird-man cult (this cult succeeded the island's more famous Moai era).


He's opposite my Mars, 16' from applying. Mars rules my 5th and 6th houses.

12' from a Square to Scorpio Ascendant.

4* from a conjunction to the South Node.

That's quite potent. Especially as the father of my children has Mars conjunct MakeMake on my chart.


Haumea 136108


quote:
In Hawaiian mythology, Haumea ... is the Hawaiian goddess of fertility and childbirth. ... She was a powerful sorceress, and gave birth to many creatures, some after turning herself into a young woman to marry her children and grandchildren. She was finally killed by Kaulu.

I shall watch out for that Kaulu. No doubt he is lurking somewhere in the Solar System.

Haumea is 2* 56' applying to a Square to my Sun.


.....both quotes are from Wikipedia

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Got Gemini?
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posted October 24, 2008 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus, this is very good info! Yes I'm a newb but I can still try to apply this to my chart and see what's going on.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
And yes, i'm a guy!

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