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posted October 25, 2008 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
okay so the story is..

6 years ago i was with a capricorn man who has a scorpio moon, who'd been a friend for a while. we had an amazing time together, but it was brief. we connected so amazingly. afterward there was much confusion and i didn't think he liked me, and he didn't think i liked him. but turns out both of us had wanted to stay together and build a relationship, which i didn't even know until this july.

since july we've been talking everyday (over the internet), for hours, and have been connecting amazingly well. i dated someone for about a month, it just sorta happened, but it wasn't good, and i ended it. it hurt him (but not to the point that he dwells on it or anything). since then our level of communication has deepened even more and we're both quite sure we want to be together.

this week we've talked on the phone for several hours and it's been like WOW.. we seem to have a very intuitive grasp of one another, and it feels just so right, to both of us. but here is my question:

all of a sudden, i will feel the slightest twinge of doubt, or even just wonder, and suddenly it's like he's felt that in me, and will suddenly seem kind of sad, or confused. okay i must say also he's a libra mars, so making decisions and sticking by them is hard for him. that might be at play here too. i'm a pisces NN and this trines his moon. so i think we're both soooo emotionally intuitive that we are picking up on eachother really really fast..

but now i'm wondering; do they suffer a lot of emotional self doubt? are they afraid to have their deepest feelings known? i feel like he feels me feeling him and gets kind of afraid for a minute.. but he's not playing games and he's very honest. oh i'll have to come back later..

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posted October 25, 2008 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
oops, i realized my post was pretty confusing. i was being distracted as i typed.. i'll be back later to clarify..

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posted October 25, 2008 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
Scorp moon and Virgo Sun here ...

Love? Feelings be known?

There is nothing to be scared of, I love it all.

Very deep emotionally, although very selective but I know what I want when I've made my pick and not one to be scared of falling in love or showing emotions period, on the contrary, I go the distance to be with the one I want.

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posted October 25, 2008 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
thanks virgOh! are you a man?

sorry i wasn't very clear in my first post. the thing i was wondering about is this.. well, it feels like a certain vulnerability. like, it feels like i get in deep and sense his deepest emotions and it both excites him and, i think, feels a little stunned cuz he's not used to it. he's very open about his feelings and is very certain he wants to be with me.. keeps talking about coming to see me and building a relationship together. yes, it's very INTENSE!! and it feels really great. i guess it's the DEPTH of feeling that confuses me a tiny bit. my moon is opposite his in taurus by 4 degrees, and i'm pretty simple emotionally, though i do feel deeply and am emotionally intuitive. but what it feels like is.. hmm.. i feel like he's scared to totally reveal the depth of his feelings; worried he'll overwhelm me, yet knows i feel them, and is excited by it, but his doubt is in the area of worrying i'll reject him. does that make any sense? he really likes my reassurances, so i feel like that may be the answer, but i wonder, in general if there are other ways to either look at this or deal with it, if that is even it at all? it's just new to me. it's the kind of experience i've always wanted, the kind of emotional depth and realness i've yearned for, but i don't want to eff it up in anyway cuz it feels like such a depth in him that i could accidentally hurt him if i respond the wrong way! does that resonate, or do you have any tips? thanks!!

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posted October 25, 2008 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
My partner has Scorp Moon - The moment she saw me, she wanted me, and never left my side since!!! (Which surprised me, having her there all the time, as I'm used to being independent). She can be moody, her sting hurts, and she never says sorry! I think the moodiness may have been tied into a few things she went through a couple of years ago. She won't open up with me and share - which I found frustrating because I am a natural communicator. But that's a real Scorp thing (She also has Venus in Cancer, which can make her keep her feelings to herself).

On the upside - She is deeply, deeply loyal (Mars in Taurus, too), will do anything for me, and she will always be there for me. She is also trying to put more positivity into our relationship. I can see she is trying, which is great - as I know things in the past have effected her deeply and this was getting in the way of our relationship.

I'm beginning to appreciate our synastry more and more these days. Astrology has given me insight in how to get the best from this relationship. Like most relationships, it's taken a bit of work. But I enjoy her company because she accepts me as I am. She's witty and can make me laugh.

I think with Scorp Moon, there comes a mystery. Whether you find this intriguing or frustrating may depend on how you wish to approach it!

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posted October 25, 2008 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
and also.. we'll be in this totally emotinonally synched place in our conversation, and all of a sudden a thought will pop in my head like, 'is this too good to be true?' or something along those lines, and i won't even SAY anything, but it's like he's totally tuned in and then i feel like he starts to get a little bit insecure, or, maybe he just FEELS it and doesn't know how to respond. it's interesting cuz i'm really tuned into people (lotta neptune action for me), but i feel like his is slightly more delicate and personal, while mine is a bit more 'universal', the sensitivity. that's another thing i'm not entirely sure how to respond to.. or, even forsure what it is!

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posted October 25, 2008 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
thanks koiflower! mystery FORSURE! i have to remember that. i guess they sort of guard themselves emotionally, but reveal themselves really intensely too. but i think maybe the key is letting them have control? i'm very sag influenced and i like to ask a lot of questions.. sometimes he's totally into this and we have fun with it and he's 100% open, and sometimes he seems to need to keep it inside till he's ready..

which makes me wonder: is it wise to let a scorpio moon man be sort of in control of the relationship? i feel with this placement there is TONNES of emotional integrity, and i'm wondering if they would prefer it that way. my taurus moon likes to know what's going on, and needs a certain level of reassurance myself, but he's never gone a day without telling me his feelings for me. though he does vaccilate a lot on when and how we'll meet up (libra mars). anyway, i wonder if i should just sit back and relax and let the mystery unfold as HE chooses.. thoughts?

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posted October 25, 2008 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
You will always get the depth of feeling with Scorp moons, like I said this stuff is layers upon layers of emotions and sensitivity it just goes way deep inside and it's bottled when it comes out it overwhelms anyone lol so you start to doubt whether it's for real or an act.

Being scared of totally revealing is another story, I am not like that, but you have to know maybe he is not sure 100 % since this is an online thing and you guys haven't met in person yet, it's different when you meet him and look him in the eye, you will know then for sure.

Being rejected is another thing, I do take it personal and being a Virgo also doesnt help, you start to worry that it's something to do with you and you spend days on end driving yourself crazy, thats why I said I am selective, I take my time to make sure I got all the green lights before I make my final decision and it could take years.

My only advice is: Plenty of reassurances will help and oh, measure your every word in your head before you utter it and think before you speak until you meet and get accustomed to him, and yes ask him as many questions you can, although we are secretive but it's weird cause we reveal what you need to know to a certain extent

And yeah, I am a Virgo male

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posted October 25, 2008 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
thanks virgOh!!

oh we have met! we were together briefly 6 years ago.. and it was very intense and very magical. we just connected instantly. we've been friends since, but rarely have seen one another..

so do you think you are a little more straighforward in a way because you are virgo? he is capricorn.. first degree, one degree from my 29' sag venus.. i feel like he is very straightforward and responsible, doesn't hide things intentionally or that kind of thing. i think he's just kind of amazed and also grateful that he can reveal so much with me, but that he's not used to it.. and then there can be a few moments of awkwardness, like a feeling of being so full of emotion and not knowing how to deal, or converse about it, or something..

so you guys like questions? yay! i guess that makes sense cuz you like to know what another person is feeling and thinking, so even though you may not answer right away, it is like giving YOU information you NEED to feel comfortable, through asking questions.. is that right?

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posted October 25, 2008 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
I love questions, and i love when I ask and be aqsked, to me it's a kind of "flirting" and I use the information to know the person better and disect them

And yes, I am very straightforward, the awkwardness comes with the package too!!

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posted October 25, 2008 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
thanks virgOh, that helps a lot!

do you think it would be wise to give him the control, then? like, relax into his timing, his own personal momentum?

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posted October 25, 2008 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
If you trust him, sure, go for it

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posted October 25, 2008 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
yeah i definitely trust him. do you think he'd like that, as a scorpio moon? i wonder cuz it feels like his emotions rule him and i want to honour them.. and i also feel that he could do a very good job of handling things, were he in control, so it comes down to whether or not a scorpio moon LIKES to be in control!?

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posted October 25, 2008 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
You bet they do, and yes although we are ruled by our emotions and they do channel us but still, when it comes to taking control or taking the lead we are there.

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posted October 25, 2008 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
ahhh.. that sounds very nice! thanks!

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The Scorpio Moon, in a nutshell: intensity. Intense likes, intense dislikes, intense
fascination, intense disgust... and yes, in keeping with the general Scorpio reputation,
intense love affairs. This is a very black-and-white, all-or-nothing moon with extremely
fixed notions about things. If you're loved by a Scorpio Moon then you are loved fiercely,
totally and completely; but if you're despised by a Scorpio Moon, then you may as well
not exist. And it's quite possible in dealing with this turbulent moon native that both
emotions may be directed at you at different points in this lifetime. If a Scorpio Moon
perceives that you have slighted them in some way... better make good immediately, or
run and hide until the mood passes, because in all likelihood, revenge is being plotted
against YOUR head!

The Scorpio Moon: Offsetting the Drama With Private Relaxation
Scorpio Moon people tend to go through life acting on hunches, "reading between the
lines" - picking up subtle nonverbal cues, moods, intentions, underlying messages and
such. Indeed, someone with this moon placement may get a very different meaning from
the same conversation heard by someone with a more literal and pragmatic mind. This is
not only quite distracting to the moon native, but when they react to these perceptions it
often leads to undesired consequences and drama. Thus, the irony of the Scorpio Moon;
being consumed by the very internal composition one despises in himself, and attracting
drama-infused situations as a direct result of trying to avoid them.
A troubled Scorpion Moon person should allow herself some distance from time to time...
a private sanctuary where she can sort out her emotions, get a healthy perspective and
then emerge from the "cocoon" with renewed inner peace and a higher purpose in mind.
Indeed, reflection and meditation feels quite natural to this introspective moon native and
is encouraged as a way to take the edge off and temper the extreme moods. A deeply
sensitive soul, capable of great courage and strength... there is much room for
psychological growth and wisdom to be gained with this lunar positioning.
The Scorpio Moon: A Powerful Force for Good OR Evil
As with any sign, there are both positives and negatives to the Scorpio Moon placement.
The sign of Scorpio has been assigned two symbols- the Scorpion and the Eagle. The
former, a covert creature who stealths along the ground; and the latter, a symbol of
power and might, soaring into the high heavens. Lows and highs... the Scorpio Moon is
quite familiar with both states of consciousness... more than most, in fact.
Spiritually evolved Scorpio Moon souls can (and should) harness the gift of their
emotional intensity and move proverbial mountains with it. If a Scorpio Moon person is
intrinsically good, then that goodness of spirit can manifest itself in divine ways...
extreme compassion and generosity toward fellow man, great and unshakeable integrity,
impeccably honest conduct in business and personal affairs, and a permanent seat on
the side of righteousness and justice. An enlightened Scorpio Moon will pledge his whole
self to any and every cause he deems important; profess his undying faith to his family,
home, country; and even make the ultimate sacrifice in a lifelong promise to serve God.
Yes, this moon placement is often found in religious leaders, as the spiritual aspect is
heavily emphasized here.
Less evolved Scorpio moons, on the other hand, are not averse to using abject means to
get what they want. The concentration of power in this sign placement has led many a
wayward Scorpio lunar native down a dark and devious path of corruption. In direct
contrast to their enlightened counterparts; illicit affairs, illegal and underhanded dealings,
petty and deceitful behavior, psychological turmoil, and loyalty to no one but themselves
are trademark signs of the afflicted Scorpio Moon. Again, this is all due to the fact that
Scorpio is in the moon's fall, thus making emotions feel uncomfortable, unnatural and allencompassing.
With the all-or-nothing theme at work, indeed this placement will produce
some extreme results.
The Scorpio Moon and Sex
It has been said that sexual impulses drive the Scorpio Moon native moreso than other
moon signs, perhaps because they radiate such passion and intensity that they're
forever in need of release. The Scorpio Moon is equated with transcendental lovemaking
or "soul sex" in which the participants experience an exalted state of consciousness by
way of the physical sex act itself. Clearly, while "sexual nirvana" is hardly a day-to-day
occurrence, this moon person has been labeled as having an extra potential for such
achievements. At the very least, this moon person admits to having a high sex drive,
even allowing sex to affect his or her decisions at certain points in life.
The Scorpio Moon as a Nurturer
The Scorpio Moon Nurturer is fiercely protective and psychologically all-consuming.
Scorpio Moon Mothers, or "Smothers" as they are sometimes known, must learn to
temper their intensity. If the Scorpio lover is possessive in her affairs, the Scorpio mother
is equally possessive of her children. It will be her ongoing challenge to "let go." These
moon natives must get a reign on that fretfulness that leads to strings of sleepless
nights, and interfere less in the daily trials and tribulations of their young sons and
daughters. Scorpio Moon Mothers must generally permit themselves to chill out, cool
down and back off. An earth-sign or earth moon-sign partner can lend a comforting and
grounding effect for the Scorpio nurturer who has let the worrying get out of hand yet
again.
Other signature themes and preoccupations of the Scorpio Moon: secrets, mysteries,
severity, psychology, power, control, passion, revenge, obsession, loyalty, sex, depth of
feeling, ethics, spirituality, solitude, death. No, the Scorpio moon is surely not made of
green cheese, but rather some of the most powerful facets of human existence. This
lunar native must learn to embrace the reality of his or her own emotions as opposed to
running or hiding from them. If the Scorpio Moon person can navigate his or her own
spirit to a higher and more exalted place, he will recognize the potential for complete and
total happines that lies within himself... and the transformation will be powerful for
certain.

The Scorpio Moon is a mysterious Moon. This Moon is strongly motivated by feelings while remaining most adept at hiding true emotions. It is a Moon of great willpower and good judgment, but one which never forgets a good or bad deed. The Scorpio Moon is one of the more difficult Moons, often having to face and conquer more obstacles than the other Moons. It is prone to aggressive and dominating behavior in addition to being wilful and stubborn. The Scorpio Moon possesses strong beliefs which will likely be expressed in a passionate manner. This Moon is one of secrecy and personal independence coupled with heightened intuitive and psychic abilities. However, the Scorpio Moon can be jealous and distrustful, believing that the sharing of feelings leads to vulnerability.

In general, the personality of those whose Moon sign is in Scorpio may be one which harbors a feeling of misunderstanding by others. Fighters by nature, those ruled by the Scorpio Moon are usually hot-tempered and stand alone in their battles. They fight with assurance and confidence. However, there is a tendency for such people to bring out in themselves the very things they are fighting against. Persons governed by the Moon in Scorpio will be full of energy with a tendency to express themselves in a rather blunt manner. While such individuals might declare they are "okay with change," it is a somewhat different story inside and they are actually quite conservative, resisting change...particuarly any change which is forced upon them. When such people do change their minds on an idea, they fully stand behind it and help to implement the change. In reality, Scorpio is probably one of the most misunderstood of the Zodiac signs and individuals who fall under the jurisdiction of its Moon are inclined to act out of irritation or anger. In short, these people like to get revenge. Others may perceive those ruled by the Scorpio Moon as lacking in a strong moral code, or that they drink too much, but the truth is, such individuals are truly possessed of a strong willpower and much determination. However, there is also a massive love of pleasure and those governed by this particular Moon will be quite familiar with the subject of pleasure. There is a strong attraction to the opposite sex...and vice versa. Those governed by the Scorpio Moon share many of the characteristics of those ruled by the Moon of Capricorn. Both subjects have boundless energy, a lack of control in certain life areas and oftentimes, trouble with the opposite sex. This could cause a great deal of strife throughout life and more than one marriage is highly likely. The Moon in Scorpio is also closely related to death and the occupation of an individual ruled in this manner might well be so related...policeman, fireman or soldier, for example. Passion and intensity will be paramount in any relationship which involves those who fall under the jursiction of the Scorpio Moon. There is also an ability to inspire others here, for such subjects will never shirk in the face of unpleasant situations and are perfectly capable of speaking up for the underdog. Individuals of the Scorpio Moon know no fear and will refuse to be put off by the views of society when it comes to choosing friends or partners. However, there is a distinct tendency to keep many emotions "under wraps" and others may be unaware of this individual's true feelings until he or she "lets rip" at the last straw. Time alone is very important for those ruled by the Moon in Scorpio...it is necessary in order to process feelings and come to terms with some of the injustices of the world. These are people with a strong moral conscience who, when hit by tragedy, will survive to return again...scarred, but ready to face life. The strong intuitive powers and psychic abilities of Scorpio Moon individuals enable them to see below the surface.

Those with the Moon in Scorpio often try to act cool and under control but there’s a brooding intensity below the surface. With an emotional base in the sign of the extremes, they experience intense feelings, which they often fear to let out. This in turn makes even intimate friends and family reluctant to probe too deeply.

The secretive Scorpio Moon can sometimes end up lost in all that churning emotion. If they are not self-aware, they could end up being driven by this subterranean force in the end. Along with the highs of the light side, they can fully dwell in the dark and struggle with jealousy, thoughts of revenge and serious resentment. Their nature is a conundrum -- repressing their feelings makes them too powerful to contain. Over time, they’ll learn that letting them out is the only way to tame the beast within.

They're in a position to understand the full emotional spectrum of the human condition, and so would make excellent dramatists or criminal detectives. They’ll excel in any field where penetrating insights into psychological extremes is required. And the focused ambition of the Moon in Scorpio adds to their chances for success.

In work and romance, they’ll need many outlets for that reservoir of emotional intensity. It can take years to win the trust of the suspicious Scorpio Moon, and even then there may be a fortress of defenses. Surely it goes without saying that you don’t want to betray them in any way.

When Scorpio inhabits the Moon, there’s a powerful sexuality felt by others, as well as a strong need for this catharsis in their lives. Sometimes primal desires can eclipse all other emotional truths and lead them into dangerous situations. Those in a committed relationship have a chance to experience this deep sensuality in an atmosphere of trust.

With the Moon in Scorpio, you may feel as though no one understands you. You are a fighter by nature, and are hot tempered. You stand alone in your battles. You fight with assurance and confidence in yourself. You are full of energy, and express yourself rather bluntly.

You are actually quite conservative, and resist change, especially if other people force it upon you. When you do change your mind on an idea, you stand fully behind it, and help implement the change.You are inclined to act out of irritation or anger. You like to get revenge.

You have strong will power and determination, but also a strong love for pleasure. You are quite familiar with the subject of pleasure. You have a strong attraction to the opposite sex. This will cause you great trouble throughout your lifetime. The Moon in this Sign is also related to death. Your occupation is probably related to death like a policeman, fireman, soldier, etc.

Males with Moon in Scorpio: Firm, determined, self-reliant and conservative. They can withstand the battle of life alone with courage, energy and hard work. Averse to change, difficult to influence, and obstinate. They will become very revolutionary and changeable.

Sometimes they are irritable, angry and revengeful. Have many children. Not favorable for mother and her side of family. Position of Moon does not favour morality and may induce drinking , often cause coarseness in speech and threaten some scandal to the native. Love of occult science. Fond of pleasure, comforts and desires, cannot tolerate any restriction or opposition. Danger through voyages.


Scorpio Moon Influence On The Fire Signs
(Aries - Leo - Sagittarius)
Provides enhancement to the overall personality
as well as an energetic nature

Scorpio Moon Influence On The Air Signs
(Libra - Aquarius - Gemini)
Provides enhanced mental powers to the personality

Scorpio Moon Influence On The Earth Signs
(Capricorn - Taurus - Virgo)
Provides an ambitious and sensual aspect to the personality

Scorpio Moon Influence On The Water Signs
(Cancer - Scorpio - Pisces)
Provides enhanced strength, energy and creative aspects to the personality


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posted October 26, 2008 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
wow, thanks so much for all the copied and pasted stuff virgOh!! that really sounds like him, especially the 'good' stuff.

can i ask you another question? is it possible to OVERDO the reassurances? i'm a taurus moon so i'm really into affection and giving and proclaiming my loving feelings. i've noticed a trend where he worries i'm not as into him as he is into me and seems so happy to hear that i am, but i don't want to give TOO much, cuz that would scare most guys.. we talk every day and i always tell him things that are a bit lovey dovey and how he makes me feel and stuff.. so far he's liked it, but should i maybe slow down, or do you think he'd want that, with his scorpio moon?

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posted October 26, 2008 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
hmm.. that made me just realize. it's like when i have the 'is this too good to be true?' thought, he is simultaneously feeling vulnerable and afraid of rejection. as a pisces SN i'm VERY used to picking up on others' feelings automatically and i'm still not great at distinguishing. so i think perhaps i'm picking up on that at that moment.. but it's ALSO reflecting my own vulnerability and insecurity, which i have. interestingly, when i reassure him, it reassures us both because it makes me realize that his craving such reassurances means he's very very into me too.

but yeah i'm sort of feeling like it is a very serious thing, to get involved with a scorpio moon, and it IS all or nothing. and honestly, i love it. my fear, though, is i'll put too much into it and get hurt again, as has been my experience in most other relationships. i've learned through those experiences to let go and be more aloof so that they don't feel overwhelmed, etc. and now i'm just confused cuz this feels all encompassing and i WANT to give it my all, but my experiences have taught me to hold back.. but would that be a mistake with a scorpio moon?

hmmm.. maybe i should just go with the flow completely, live moment to moment, and yeah, let him be in control and just trust..

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posted October 26, 2008 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
You've kind of hit the nail on the head by mentioning he may need to feel in control. My partner loves to feel in control of everything!!! I have kind of relinquised certain tasks because I know she just loves organising them, eg, paying bills, calling the insurance company, organising the electrician, making the menu up for Christmas dinner.

I just let her do it, knowing she is completely happy being in charge of stuff. I was completely independent and self-sufficient before we met. Now she seems to run my life for me!! LOL

At the end of the day, I have discovered that her having control of most things keeps our relationship plodding along. She loves running a comfortable, stable home environment. That suits my Venus in Virgo and Mars in Libra approach to home affairs. I rather be around a happy Scorpio Moon, that a disatisfied one!!

Good luck and enjoy the intensity!!!

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posted October 26, 2008 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artemisss     Edit/Delete Message
Dated a Virgo Sun, Scorpio Moon (Aqua asc) for 2 years.

I am a Sag sun, Pisces Moon, so we definitely felt, rather immensly, eachothers moods, feelings and thoughts.

But, the earth sun (cappy) (and with me virgo), makes the analytical scorpio even that much more calculated and hesitant when unsure...

now, VirgOh, i think you said that wen you are "sure" about someone, you follow through with his feelings (i.e. followed a middle eastern princess to the US) but, this illustrates my point even more..the caveat here is, their expectations are VERY HIGH, (which is good for them, because they pick those who are worthy of their love), but kinda daunting for us, because it takes them so long...especially with an impatient type, (like me, sag).

I'd say if you want it, go for the kill, express your feelings (that is what i did with the ex, literally, was the agressor for the first 6 months and it worked out...until i got upset and felt like i was doing all the work, which doesnt make any sense because it was my initiative to do so, lol)

Thus, although you cant change him, you can influence him with how you feel, by expressing it with the upmost clarity...

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posted October 26, 2008 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
My expectations of her were extremely high, and I do expect a lot from people and I know that is so wrong to do because you always get disappointed, too bad she wasn't worthy of it or me and I am glad that chapeter is over because it changed my life upside down and pulled me from my environment and my loved ones, however, no regrets, I learnt a lot from this entire experience.

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posted October 27, 2008 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
koiflower, wow that sounds.. interesting! gulp. see, that is my thing; i'm a super independent aquarian. in fact, my sun squares his moon exactly and my moon opposes his moon. the taurus part of me actually feels great relief at his emotional intensity and determination (ie control). but my aquariusness struggles with it. FORTUNATELY his venus conjuncts my sun (and merc and mars) in aquarius, so when i behave aquarianally, he is more than thrilled! he loves my kooky, independant ways. i guess it's finding the balance that is daunting a bit. giving him control and relaxing into it, or behaving like the nut that i am. they feel like different energies, completely.

though i must say, there is this sense of being immersed, like underwater, emotionally with him. it is at once thrilling and scary. maybe it's my only water planet (uranus) being conjunct his moon (besides my SN in pisces). it really does feel all-or-nothing, so there is an inevitable surrender to be had if i'm going to get into this fully. i feel it.

artemisss, thank you! well he is not hesitant, really. he's very into me and his emotions are very out-there. i feel like he does feel internally conflicted about revealing them, fear of being rejected, but he does and then is glad for my acceptance and also expressing mine in return. we feel the same way about one another.. it does feel that he wants to get everything just right.. but i'm a bit afraid; how are their expectations very high?? i do feel that he looks up to me quite a lot and i wouldn't want to disappoint him.. is it emotional clarity then that they most crave? is that the key? i write him a lot when we're not talking (we talk several hours a day) and last night i asked if i write too much and that is definitely not the case.. he LOVES all my writing. i guess it's a comfort to them to have other peoples' feelings revealed because they are always trying to get to the bottom of peoples' emotions..?

virgOh! glad you've learned a lot.. that is all we can do, right?? can i ask.. what kind of expectations did you have? this part has me a bit confused..

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posted October 27, 2008 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
oh! another thing that confuses me.. he will get silent sometimes when i'm revealing myself, letting myself feel emotionally vulnerable enough to express my deepest feelings.. and then i get scared.. like, why has he gone all quiet!?!? and then.. from the way the conversation progresses, it FEELS like he is releived and happy for it, but is nervous because it is so good and he doesn't want to screw it up or put his foot in his mouth. it feels like he's very glad i'm doing it, and yet he holds back. which in turn makes ME nervous.. but from the way he will sometimes follow up this pattern with a piece of vulnerability, to which he requires and gratefully accepts reassurance, i'm strongly getting a sense that this is a good thing, in that we are resonating emotionally. it's just the lack of verbal language at these moments that frightens me.. because i don't know forsure. anyway, it doesn't happen a lot, but that's part of the underwater feeling.. a new world.. is THIS a scorpio moon thing? can anyone tell me what that is all about?

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posted October 27, 2008 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
heart cakes - I really identify what you have read in your last post.

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posted October 27, 2008 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oceaneyes     Edit/Delete Message
hmm
scorpio moon
well i'm not one but i've dated a few, been in love with one and i have moon square pluto so it has a similar effect.

I will say not all of them are nearly as open as VirgOh or people who have a different sun /venus sign. The one i'm referring to (or the two that i dated) are scorpio sun, moon, venus and pluto with pluto conjunctions to all three and saturn aspects to their sun and moon. Saturn is restrictive. So yes i'll agree i've never met people more intense and expressive as far as how strongly they feel. They completely close up when they start to feel vulnerable or when things start to go rocky. they do hide alot and they take time to completely open up about darker things. They're really self protective too and they say things they don't mean to push you away so that they don't get hurt again. Theyre mysterious and they're prett sweet . honestly they're my favourite even though theyre ridiculously complex. love love love <3

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