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Scorpio Chick
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posted October 31, 2008 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpio Chick     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, I've been dating a Gem for about 6 weeks. For the past 2 weeks, he's been alluding to the fact that he knows I'm in love with him... (I'm not but I AM falling). We've talked about how his last girlfriend said I Love You wayy too soon (1 month in). One time, I was hugging him goodbye and he said "I know you do" (love him). I haven't been the one talking about love as much as him, so I figured he was trying to judge my reaction by all of this.

So, this past Monday, we were snuggling and I was getting ready to leave. I went to kiss him goodbye, and he says "I love you". I did a double-take and asked him to say it again, and he did. I can't say it back at the moment, but I did say thank you, and I told him I didn't want to leave now that he told me that. So, we had lunch and he mentioned that there were many different types of love... I asked him what he meant by that and he totally skirted the issue.

So, yesterday we were having dinner. I told him how great I felt since he told me he loved me and he blurts out "But I didn't mean it". Now I'm heartbroken.

Gems, give me some insight here. Was it an accident? Was he thinking of someone else when he said it? I am falling for him, but now I'm scared to tell him, now that he says he doesn't feel the same way.

He's got a moon in Capricorn if that can clarify anything (mine's in Libra).

Help me !

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posted October 31, 2008 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
oohhh....when a gemini says i love you...and you say ...thank you.....uhm......geminis are sincere but fickle, try to remember that....but thank you to i love you...ouch...that smarts.

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posted October 31, 2008 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
do you think he said I didn't mean it to back off a bit due to the thank you response? Scorpio and gemini ,,,,hhhhmmmm.....he will never match your intensity..where are your and his venus placements? or do you think his i love you was like, i love pizza..isn't it good....geminis are funky kind of in relationships, i think. they don't give themselves completely like maybe a scorpio or leo.

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Scorpio Chick
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posted October 31, 2008 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpio Chick     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't say thank you in a mean way. I let him know that I wanted to stick around and be with him.. Its just that I can't say it and mean it just yet.

But now that he's said it, I would like to tell him I am falling for him, but now I don't wanna look like a fool, especially if he doens't feel the same way. And he's skirting the whole issue now, and he didn't want to see me today

I'm confused big time.

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posted October 31, 2008 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message
hmm, but his moon is capricorn so his emotions are more stable than the whole gemini ficklenss. I'm stronlgy capricornian and if I told someone 'i love oyu' and this person answered with a thank you, sorry but I'd feel VERY hurt by such a response. Probably rejected to some extent. I would use the first opportunity to make me look less vulnerable and basically diminish what i'Ve said. So gemini or not, his response seems linked to your 'thank you'

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Ana
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posted October 31, 2008 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ana     Edit/Delete Message
annaf, i agree!

While i flirted with a gemini friend of mine (i'm also a scorp) he'd always say things like "you're hot, i'd sooo do you right now", or "we should really take a shower now... the both of us" and then he laughed it off.Once he even said "i know you love me" but to each such "hint" i'd always laugh at him and make a joke out of it.Somehow when we talk we still (always) end up talking about sex - with scorps and geminis there seems to be a very heavy sexual attraction goin' on :P

Basically this is how i interpret this: they are hinting they like you but then immediately laugh it off or make a joke out of it because they're scared of rejection so they use their sense of humor to make it sound like a joke when in fact they actually mean it.The gemini guy i told you about screwed with my brains for 2 months in this way until i gave up cause i couldn't take it anymore and i thought he was just making fun of me.Later i understood that this was actually his way of dealing with flirting and letting me know he likes me
So, whenever he plays this game of telling you something serious in a joking manner, reply in the same way - make a joke out of your answer and you'll see he's going to enjoy that

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GemGemGem
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posted November 02, 2008 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
He said "I love you", and didn't hear it back in return. Now it's the HUGE pink elephant in the room, and he's embarrassed for having shown his emotions too soon without reciprocation....so to save face...he took it back.

If he said, "I didn't mean it" to me, I would come back and say, "Sorry, no takesies backsies. You love me!" Just make it a joke to lighten the mood!

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posted November 02, 2008 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message
GemGemGem,LOL, that's a great idea!!

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VirgOh
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posted November 02, 2008 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
Gemeni people are lame with their duality specially those who say things and do the total opposite, I tend to stay away from them , I can't stand duality and double meanings and standards.

So this guy puts her on alert that his ex said it too soon and then surprises her by him saying it first!!! (Rest assured he was testing her and did not mean to say those words in the first place, God knows what he was thinking of at that given moment and whith which brain, taking into consideration there is 3 of him at any given moment, talk about tri polar issues.)

The girl is on alert due to what he told her and she holds back, now he is telling her he did not mean it!!!

I am sorry but this guy needs to get a life, and I am sure when he said I love you to her he didn't mean the same thing as " i love pizza" either.

Dump him he is emotionally unstable and if I were you I'd add to his unstability too by dragging it for months without saying it hahahahahh God I can't stand fickle people who dont know what they want and can't make up their minds 1-2-3 in a relation.

"Sorry, no takesies backsies. You love me!"

If I was him and I meant what I told her that I did not mean saying those words then I'd be soooo disgusted with her for pulling that one and would probably cave in for like a week before I contact her ... And ladies really, easy on the mushiness, if you want to be mushy cool, but pick the proper time to unload it on me or else I am ghost and disgusted lol

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posted November 02, 2008 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
VirgOH, I think he meant it when he said I love you. Especially cause when she asked him to say it again, he did. He's explained to her that he's not the type of person to say I love you easily.

My point in saying "no takesies backsies, you love me" to him, is to poke at him, but affectionately to lighten the mood...to show him that she doesn't take it so seriously. It's like when he said, "I know you do" to her even before she's ever said any I love you's. I think it's important to have a light hearted attitude towards the whole thing, to diffuse any tension its causing.

I don't think it's so much of a Gemini thing to try to take back an unreciprocated I love you. I think it's a "human" thing. No one wants to be vulnerable like that, and have something like that hanging out there. I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt, and not assume right away that he's a jerk who just said I love you, to mess with her head.

I hope someday you mean an amazing Gemini who shows you that duality doesnt have to mean double standards, contradiction, and confusion.

For the record, I happen to love Virgos. My first love was one. We broke up after 7 years, but we are still best friends.

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VirgOh
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posted November 02, 2008 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
You are good in my book GemGemGem

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Astra
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posted November 02, 2008 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpio Chick,

You said" Thank you?" Ouch. It's good that you didn't automatically say "I love you" when you can't mean it just yet. However, that won't stop this Gemini from feeling hurt. That Capricorn moon does take away the Gemini's unstable and fickle nature. Capricorn moons don't make any move unless they feel comfortable enough. They also don't express emotion very easily, so the fact that he said that he loves you really does mean a whole lot! He only felt comfortable enough to say it when he believed that you would return his feelings, but you caught him off guard with your response.

The Capricorn moon adds a great deal of pride. They absolutely cannot stand looking foolish, which is how this Gemini must feel right now. You bruised his ego. I am NOT blaming you by any means. I'm just explaining how the Gemini feels.

The fact that after that incident, he explained there were many different types of love at lunch really shows that he's trying to save face and get back some of his pride.

Rest assured that he was very sincere in what he initially told you--that he loves you. He probably still feels that way, but he's hurting and does not want to show his vulnerable side.

What you must do is talk to him in private and clarify that you are not in love with him yet, but that you are FALLING in love with him. That should help smooth things over a bit.

VirgOh,

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Gemeni people are lame with their duality specially those who say things and do the total opposite, I tend to stay away from them , I can't stand duality and double meanings and standards.

Um, are you aware that Virgos are mutable just like Gemini and are both ruled by the same planet? Virgos, are therefore dual-natured just like Gemini. I've come across many of the dual-natured signs (Sags, Gems, Virgos, Pisces) and they all have contradictory natures. Each one's level of stability, of course, is modified by various natal chart aspects, but the dual nature is still there. The very thing that you dislike in Geminis are very much present in Virgos. Virgos are just more determined in suppressing their dual nature, but that doesn't take away from the fact that their dual nature still exists.

And for the record, I have come across fickle and contradictory Scorpios and Leos who are both fixed signs. There are hypocrites in every sign, not just Gemini.


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posted November 02, 2008 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpio Chick,

I agree w/ what everyone is saying. His telling you about the ex girlfriend was his way of letting you know it's a big deal to him. Then his saying "I know you do" for a while before he'd actually say he loved you was his way of preparing you for what was coming.

His comments following (There are many kinds of love and I didn't mean it) are just reactions based on his feeling rejected. Scorpios allow their feelings to build and make sure before giving their heart away. Gems give their heart away and sort it out as they go.

I had a friend who was a Gem with a Cap moon and he did a lot of the kinds of things you're referring to. It was always a control issue with him...so there's that to contend with as well.

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posted November 03, 2008 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpio Chick... I was reading your thread... the situation passed right? Everything is ok now?
I was in a similar situation. I have a habit of pretending I don't understand when people are forward or quick with emotions (my own Capricorn moon) and I have a hard time believing people (oh, it's too good to be true! type fears coupled with old fashioned caution) and I often gloss over emotional situations unless I am sure... and then talk myself out of them later even if I started out blown away "sure". I can totally see both sides of your situation. It's just fear. Everything will work out fine. I think if you just open your heart and love then everything will fall into place, whatever it is meant to be.

Reminds me of lyrics... imagine that

You wait, wanting this world
To let you in
And you stand there
A frozen light
In dark and empty streets
And you smile hiding behind
A God-given face
And I know you're so much more
Everything they ignore
Is all I need to see

And you're the only one I ever believed in
The answer that could never be found
The moment you decided to let love in
And now I'm banging on the door of an angel
The end of fear is where we begin
The moment we decided to let love in

I wish
Wishing for you to find your way
And I'll hold on for all you need
That's all we need to say
I'll take my chances while
You take your time with
This game you play
But I can't control your soul
You need to let me know
You leaving or you gonna stay

You're the only one I ever believed in
The answer that could never be found
The moment you decided to let love in
Now I'm banging on the door of an angel
The end of fear is where we begin
The moment we decided to let love in

There's nothing we can do about
The things we have to do without
The only way to feel again
Is let love in

There's nothing we can do about
The things we have to live without
The only way to see again
Is let love in

hear me
wanting this world to let you in

You're the only one I ever believed in
The answer that could never be found
The moment you decided to let love in
Now I'm banging on the door of an angel
The end of fear is where we begin
The moment we decided to let love in
The moment we decided to let love in
The moment we decided to let love in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKbGastBD0Q

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Scorpio Chick
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posted November 03, 2008 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpio Chick     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the replies everyone.

Mystic, I love that song!

Things were a little weird this weekend. I didn't hear from him at all. Then I texted him letting him know I was confused, I was wondering if he was OK, and he called me right away.

We made plans to see each other today, and when I called him, he was busy with work, so we made plans for tomorrow.

Hopefully, when we see each other again, things will go back to normal.

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posted November 03, 2008 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ramblintreeclimber     Edit/Delete Message
In response to VirgOh..

Gemini's duality is lame! I could name a potentially lame characteristic of every sign.. including Virgo.. anyway thats okay, were mostly just misunderstood, and I'll admit it's entirely possible for you to be right about this guy. He could definently be a two-timing liar with double standards, I don't know. However, I do know how I would feel in this situation because 1. I am a gemini guy, and 2. it's happened to me before... .

I think this guy was serious when he opened himself up and expressed his vulnerable emotions. This is a scary thing for alot of people, especially gemini's with their natural skeptisism of heavy emotions. when he got rejected, even if it was done in the most truthful and best-intentioned way possible, he was hurt and began the processes of trying to convincing himself that his original emotions were inappropriate. Even if he supposedly "took it back" he still cares about you, because even the most clever of gemini's can't fool their own emotions. I think lots of gemini-haters would be surprised by the emotional depth a gemini is capable of...

Well, thats my opinion. Good luck..

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Sun: gemini
Moon: gemini
Rising: pisces

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posted November 11, 2008 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpio Chick     Edit/Delete Message
****************UPDATE*****************


Ok, so it's been a while since that last post.

Ever since he's told me he loves me, he has steadily pulled further and further away. I admitted that I loved him too on the 31 of October.

I finally got to see him again on Nov 4. and all he did was try to start an argument with me over the elections.

So, I brought up the topic of why he told me he loved me and took it back. I was upset during our conversation and I cried. (I know). He told me that he didn't mean to say it, that he was just comfortable with me, and that it didn't mean that we were going to get married or anything. (That wasn't even in my plans after 6 weeks... lol)

I thought everything would go back to normal but it hasnt. He won't call me back most times now, and everytime I call him, I either get voicemail, or he tells me he is too busy to see me.

So, I figured he needed some space. So, I let him have some. He called me this past Sunday night and we chit chatted about the weekend and everything. No plans made to see each other or anything.

I just don't understand. I texted him that I wished things would just go back to the way they used to be.. He called me and we talked for 5 minutes before he had to "go" again.

It's eating me up inside. I'm thinking I should just cut my losses. I can't stand this feeling of worry I feel. I can't escape the feeling that another person is somehow involved (my Scorpio?). I'm just feeling really insecure and don't appreciate it, and if he cared anything about me, he'd man up and at least TRY to do something about it.

Thanks for listening people.

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posted November 11, 2008 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
WHAT DID I TELL YOU!!!?

It's the oldest trick in the book

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posted November 12, 2008 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
I hate it when a Gemini actually lives up to the stereotype. I guess I will be the first one to admit I may have been wrong about him. Maybe he is a jerk after all.

ScorpioChick, would you happen to know his birth info by any chance. Not that it matters now after all is said and done, but I'd be curious to see if he has hard Uranus aspects.

I'm sorry that he turned out to be such a jerk. I'm a Gemini and I don't understand him at all. He hurt you and gave you no explanation. I think you should stop contacting him. If he wants space, give it to him. Just stop picking up his calls. It's his loss!

VirgOH, what "trick in the book" is that? I must be out of the dating loop. Is this something guys do often?

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Scorpio Chick
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posted November 12, 2008 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpio Chick     Edit/Delete Message
Here's his chart:


Heres the synastry:


We talked today about a lot of things. I care about him, and there is something about him that makes me want to know more of him. But I let him know that I wasn't going to be strung along. We have a lunch date tomorrow. I guess I will know then, how this whole thing will work out.

Thanks Guys!!

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posted November 12, 2008 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
ScorpioChick, he has a lot of hard Uranus aspects. One thing that really stands out is his Uranus square Venus. This makes for a very unpredictable love nature. Kind of like, "I love you...I love you not." and vice versa. But being that he is 40 yrs old, hopefully he is more self aware and has learned by now to recognize certain patterns in his love nature and be more consistant in his relationships.

Being that you care for him so much, I hope everything works out well. Good luck on your lunch date!

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posted November 12, 2008 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
He is a tri polar Gemeni what the hell did you expect lmao

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posted November 12, 2008 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpio Chick     Edit/Delete Message
Virg OH, you crack me up!!! lol I needed something to make me smile, and you did just that.

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posted November 12, 2008 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
VirgOH, I'm a tri-polar Gemini too. haha. But not as many hard Uranus aspects as this guy. I think my saving grace is my Venus and Mars in earthy Taurus though.

But I agree, this guy has shown less than desirable character traits. But everyone has there saving grace...hopefully he starts to redeem himself sometime soon.

It's good to hear a male "Tell it like it is" point of view sometimes.

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posted November 12, 2008 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
Scorp, you are only feeling this way because he did not reciprocate, I assure you he is not worth all of this, the minute you find a new guy you will regret even thinking about him

GemGemGem, you are still good in my book, but make sure you dont pull one of them tri polar moves

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