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posted November 04, 2008 07:06 PM            

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posted November 04, 2008 07:08 PM            

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Is there an astro-signature for victim mentality?

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posted November 04, 2008 07:14 PM              

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Pisces is the victim. Mentality is third.

Put 12 and 3 together you get victim mentality. 1+1=2

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posted November 04, 2008 07:21 PM            

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Or to make it about planets instead of houses it would be Mercury and Neptune, which one would think would be something akin to foggy thinking.

I personally think that maybe there's a sense of entitlement that plays into some victims. They believe they deserve a better deal, and therefore they are the victim.

Here's a question, is the passive-aggressive person playing victim, or the assertive person?

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posted November 04, 2008 07:26 PM            

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Here's a question, is the passive-aggressive person playing victim, or the assertive person?

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It guess it depends on the circumstance & each persons actions, but typically playing the victim is attributed to passive and passive aggressive people.

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posted November 04, 2008 07:35 PM            

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i am massively courageous/assertive.

i just get on with my lot and have the strength to overcome the seemingly impossible.

No idea how it shows on my chart though but l have a big stellium in aries and sun/mars are in taurus.

Is it a house position thing? My planets are either right on MC or right on IC, if that helps.

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posted November 04, 2008 10:48 PM            

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With all due respect, I disagree with the characterizations of passive-agression. It is always malicious in my experience. It's more a case of someone NOT doing something usually such as not doing something they knew you were counting on and leaving you on the see-saw by yourself to hit the ground. It's the parent who deliberately doesn't protect the child from bullying or the guys who string women along for years and then refuse to marry them. I've heard that described by relationship counsellors a LOT as passive agression. That's the first time I ever heard the term in fact.

Setting you up by letting you think you can count on them til you're out on a limb and then playing dumb at the crucial moment. OR, this is a very common one,"nobody asked you to do it" when they refuse to reciprocate on something. Passive aggressive people always come out smelling like a rose. They come off as so innocent to everyone else. I'm not saying that snide catty remarks aren't passive aggressive. They CAN be, depending on the audience but usually it's PASSIVE, i.e. NOT doing something.

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posted November 04, 2008 10:57 PM            

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What is it about the characterisations you disagree with? The examples you provided are passive-aggressive both of our examples are not mutually exclusive, so I'm not sure what you mean by this

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With all due respect, I disagree with the characterizations of passive-aggression....I'm not saying that snide catty remarks aren't passive aggressive. They CAN be, depending on the audience but usually it's PASSIVE, i.e. NOT doing something.

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Catty remarks (the examples I gave) are NOT passive. They are passive aggressive - the person is verbally abusing (aggression)another in a non-direct way (passive.
A passive response would be to say nothing at all.

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posted November 04, 2008 11:03 PM            

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OK, I realise that Wiki is not the bible. Best to consult a psychiatric textbook but here's Wiki for starters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_aggressive

Sounds a lot like what everyone else has been saying. In fact, the article describes me to a tee.

Maybe malicious compliance is what stillatlarge was talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_compliance

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posted November 04, 2008 11:17 PM            

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posted November 04, 2008 11:19 PM            

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I'll keep it mind Deliverance

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