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writesomething
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posted November 05, 2008 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message

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posted November 05, 2008 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Why Boston as the solar return location?

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writesomething
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posted November 06, 2008 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
he was reported as being there on his birthday.

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heart cakes
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posted November 06, 2008 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
i'm no expert at these things, but it's interesting to note that pluto is on his IC and his MC is conjunct his natal venus, and both are at aries points! and in his birthchart, his venus is conjunct his IC. feels like a strongly emphasized balance between powerful nurturing abilities (i feel like everyone feels he's so paternal in a way, and there is so much emotion pouring out!!) and resolute responsibility!

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writesomething
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posted November 06, 2008 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
its also interesting his grandmother died, and pluto(death) is conj the (family/mother/etc)IC(4th house). jupiter in the 4th points to moving far away, and/or bigger place(white house)....11th house stellium(the love from people, people felt that he related to them)...interesting.

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Lara
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posted November 06, 2008 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
VERY interesting... thanks writesomething for putting this up!

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lovegoblin
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posted November 06, 2008 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message
Someone should do a synastry between obama and his grandmother. It seems like it is a very karmic connection. I wouldn't know where to obtain her bd information.

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writesomething
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posted November 06, 2008 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
she was born in 1922(said on cnn) 1922-2008...I remember shes a scorpio, cause they said her birthday was the upcoming sunday. I think her birthday fell on the new moon in scorpio..so im thinking oct 26, 1922.

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Diandra23
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posted November 06, 2008 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Forgive me if it sounds stupid but:

when pluto cj the IC does that always mean death of a person in family????

My MOTHER is having Pluto on her IC for quite a while..and my grandmother ( who was her mother) passed away in March..

And..iŽll be having T Pluto on my IC in Feb2010..

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posted November 06, 2008 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta-sister     Edit/Delete Message
writesomething,
would you do that for anyone who was in a diffrent place on thier birthday?

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writesomething
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posted November 06, 2008 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
Vesta- personally I do, but many astrologers have differing opinions on the solar return traveling topic.

Pluto on the IC, doesnt always mean death. It means different things to different people. Mainly death, but sometimes and usually just a big change in the family, or/and home.

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belgz
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posted November 07, 2008 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
This solar return chart is almost exactly like my one for this year. I also have saturn mars and moon in 12 with libra rising on my SR

Jupiter is also in my 4th house in the SR and i did move to a very big apartment and also the home of my dreams.

As for pluto 2 of my neighbours passed away at MY MUMS house next door to her on both sides of her house. I also had a miscarriage.

I have had alot of work issues because its aspecting my 10th house. Ive had alot of sexual harrassment issues and power struggles with work over my court case.

I guess ive had the upper hand pluto has given me power over them and issues todo with the public would be them. Though i have a similiar chart venus is at the top of my chart in the 10th house.

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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posted November 07, 2008 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
The moon conjunct 8th house ruler(Mars) in 12th could also indicate loss of an important woman in his life due to death. The Pluto squares Moon too...so adds to it.

his maternal grandmother was born on October 26th, same birthday as Hillary Clinton's. That's very interesting.

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katatonic
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posted November 09, 2008 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
pluto squaring moon is the most likely cuplrit to me...my own mom died on this transit, and i myself had a near-death experience when it squared my daughters....its entry into 4th does signify major changes in the home and family as well...

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