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Topic: A new go at Obama's horoscope
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Stenudd Knowflake Posts: 33 From: Sweden Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 06, 2008 11:51 AM
I was dead wrong about Obama losing the election. Now, I've done a new reading of his horoscope, also examining it backward on previous events in his life, trying to find out what I had done wrong.To my understanding, I was fooled by the fact that his political career is mainly based in his 12th House - suggesting a true idealist, prepared to sacrifice himself for what he regards as a greater good. I didn't expect that from a president... The election day is still unremarkable, compared to Obama's horoscope, but Inauguration Day is not. It's like he can't believe it until he actually gets the job. Here is my new reading: http://www.horoscoper.net/horoscopes/barackobama-president-horoscope.htm
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 13873 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted November 07, 2008 10:36 PM
I haven't finished reading, but its interesting.IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 719 From: sydney Registered: Feb 2007
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posted November 07, 2008 11:42 PM
I cant keep it in really much longer so here i go......dont you think his mars in the 8th house could show him getting assasinated? His 8th house ruler is in the 6th house opposing all his 12th house planets inc saturn. Maybe behind the scenes shifty business happening. Right now Uranus isnt in a great position for him and WHEN i seen george bush cry i got very concerned, George bush is evil i dont think a guy responsible for ruining the world is gonna back down and let him be the good guy. I think right now hes disturbed by it and planning something. Am i paranoid? It just seems too good to be true that finally the world is in the hands of someone a million times better than Bush.. ------------------ Sun.. Cancer Moon.. Gemini Mars.. Cancer Mercury.. Cancer Venus.. Leo Ascendant....... Virgo IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 501 From: ca, usa Registered: Jan 2008
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posted November 08, 2008 12:43 AM
Belgz, and everyone who feels themselves going to that paranoid place -this man is likely to have assassination ATTEMPTS made on him for sure. but as someone who has lived with 12th house jupiter for a LONG time, i would like to reassure you. this position is truly a guardian angel. it can be dangerous to know this, because even your guardian angel can't help you if you rely on luck, but i don't see president-elect obama doing that. this man has a conscience and discipline we don't see very often. and he certainly won't be the first president to be targetted. we can help by refusing to "see" him being assassinated. it IS a risk that goes with the job and more so in this case. but let's not take part in creating that! let's see him leaving at the fairly young age of 56 to do things that afford him more comfort and joy!! and feeling its been a job well worth it. this may sound crackpot to some but its equivalent to praying for him, and believing your prayers will work. and FORGET george bush. don't dwell on the past. leo sun in the 6th house, stenudd, was the first thing i noticed looking at his chart. what a great place for a presidents sun to be, the house of service - great for us anyway!! i like your interpretation very much. also, i see aspects to uranus (his ruling planet of course) - an EXACT inconjunct to saturn and conjunction to the north node. this really IS his ruling planet in so many ways, so he is probably used to sudden and dramatic shifts and changes in life...and therefore probably well fit to deal with the seemingly unexpected. this also makes sense of his seeming to come out of nowhere when the time was JUST right! of course i am partial to this chart as it shares quite a few points with my own. but the minute i saw it i saw a great president...though there are possible tendencies to heavy-handedness in the sense of my way or the highway, i think those are softened by the 12th house jupiter which is also a very bread upon the waters placement...he has learned that what goes around comes around and his conscience is his guide... IMO of course!! IP: Logged |
VirgOh Knowflake Posts: 236 From: JC,NJ,USA Registered: Sep 2008
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posted November 08, 2008 12:47 AM
This Obama/Mccain stuff is getting way too boring and redundant already.IP: Logged |
Stenudd Knowflake Posts: 33 From: Sweden Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 08, 2008 03:30 AM
Of course I considered the possible consequences of Mars in the 8th House - and Obama's 12th House planets at work in his political career. I just could not make myself speak it out. A February crisis will give a clue as to how vulnerable he is.
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Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 387 From: somewhere far, far away Registered: Nov 2004
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posted November 08, 2008 09:40 AM
quote: This Obama/Mccain stuff is getting way too boring and redundant already.
Here's a simple solution - don't open threads about them.IP: Logged |
amowls Knowflake Posts: 866 From: Richmond, VA USA Registered: Dec 2007
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posted November 08, 2008 11:10 AM
I would just like to say that I knew since the Primaries that he would win. Not using astrology, just looking at general trends in society. My boyfriend made a bet with me, and he lost so now he has to pay for both of us to go to Mexico for vacation IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 13873 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted November 08, 2008 07:12 PM
http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2008/11/astrology-looks-at -the-birth-chart-of-barack-obama.html#more Stenedd, I'm not sure if you can garner any timeline info from this article: http://www.newsweek.com/id/167582 IP: Logged |
Stenudd Knowflake Posts: 33 From: Sweden Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 09, 2008 06:24 AM
For Obama's timeline, I started off with the Wikipedia article, and then I had to do some serious internet surfing to find dates for the years in question. It took some time. I'm not tempted to do that kind of job again any time soon, so I hope that Obama has the decency of staying in office the full two periods
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Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 387 From: somewhere far, far away Registered: Nov 2004
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posted November 09, 2008 09:50 AM
Here's his chart based on a copy of his birth certificate: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-news/barack-obama-natal-chart.php IP: Logged |
buena36 Knowflake Posts: 485 From: Europe Registered: Jul 2008
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posted November 09, 2008 10:11 AM
Stenudd,I was on Obama’s side from the first election's day. Believe me! I was also on the side of George Bush, eight years ago (sorry if I am wrong here) Until now I was right more times: even by French president, Sarkozy. I was on the side from Royal, but the Solar Return for them two has shown me, that Sarkozy will win. And he did. If there is no other way, I use pendulum (me, Gypsy!) ------------------
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2761 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted November 09, 2008 11:34 AM
I was dead wrong too about the election,using Magi Astrology which I used to figure out Bush being elected twice. I didn't do well this time,but I am very glad. I am an Obama supporter who donated to him,voted for him,and even wrote a race relations essay in regards to him,as well as research race relations issues after the Rev Wright fiasco came out,and I sent the 2 latter things to his campaign.His cosmobiological measurements looked like a election for him,but I didn't bother to change my prediction. I just stood by it because I was confident in the Magi Astrology. I kept hoping that I would be wrong and my eyes were constantly monitoring the election results on the computer,very nervous about the results because I didn't want him to lose. I strongly believed that he's the right one for us. McCain/Palin would be bad for our country. I was afraid to be subjective in regards to predicting Obama. Many politically liberal astrologers were subjective in the 2004 elections,and they were wrong about the election. I kept my objectivity,and so I accuratedly predicted Bush. I believe that objectivity and detachment are important for an astrologer. That's why Uranus and Aquarius are the planet/sign associated with Astrology. I tried to do that with this election, but I guess that I overdid it with the objectivity to the point that I got too detached. My heart told me something else. I wasn't afraid that it might not be an intuition,but wishful thinking. I rationalized my feelings. You see that issue with the t-square of mine of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd. I can doubt my intuition,feelings,mystical tendencies a lot even though I am all about those things...I am going against my nature...that Saturn in Gemini in 9th that sometimes can be the skeptic and question things. I was a skeptic of Astrology until I was almost 28 years old,and I was an atheist for 2 years too. as astrologers,we will always be capable of making mistakes when it comes to predictions. After all,we're just human. We're not perfect. aside from predictions about elections, I really don't like to make predictions. I believe that free will is the ultimate factor. I tend to approach Astrology in a psychological manner. All the planets to me are reflecting of psychological energies...not just Pluto which is mainly about intensity,transformation,regeneration,and elimination as well as taboos,and even nonconformity with its orbit that is unlike any other planet. I also believe that in the karmic approach to Astrology too. When I look at the asteroids...especially the personal name asteroids, I am convinced that there is some fate and destiny, and that it's not just free will. It's like we are meant to go through things,and they are reflected by astrological setups, but we have the free will to make choices and actions that determines the outcome. I believe in that approach with Numerology,Tarot,and Palmistry as well as any other divination system. Thanks for sharing your insights. I admire your astrological work.
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buena36 Knowflake Posts: 485 From: Europe Registered: Jul 2008
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posted November 09, 2008 11:55 AM
Hi Stefan,I am not doing predictions for presidents because they didn't have right time of birth. It was only my sympathy for Segoline Royal and I came somehow in the Forum, where there was discussion: who will win? As I had both Natal Charts I have done Solar Return for both of them. Solar from Sarkozy has shown that he will win. I wrote that on Friday in the Forum (two days before Sunday), but they have deleted the Forum. Solar Returns show exact that: young people and foreigners were for Royal, older and all other people for Sarkozy. In USA: I am just praying (in myself), that this candidate has to win! Even if there are only 100 votes difference! Buena
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 13873 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted November 21, 2008 04:49 PM
From an email from astrologer Lyn Birkbeck:IS THIS A PREDICTION COME TRUE? I would like to draw your attention to how Barack Obama's election was alluded to in the following passage from my book Understanding The Future(page 53) from the Conflicts, Trends and Possibilties part of the Uranus/Pluto Mother Wave 2007-2020 chapter, something which has been the subject of several of my recent emails... quote:
Visionary Wanted: Only Real Thing Need Apply The need for an inspirational political leader in the world … is what sums up the state of affairs. The idea that when we need such a figure, he or she will appear, is quite likely to be the reality. This individual will have to be equally Uranian and Plutonian; that is, have both a genius mind and a powerful personality. It is therefore likely that he or she either created something of significance in the sixties, or was a child of that time, the last Uranus/Pluto Mother Wave. The leader that is needed now has the task of uniting the world and its leaders towards the goal of global/species survival. For this reason he or she will have to be a deeply spiritual being.
I have also attached an interpretation (from computer database and not custom-written) of Obama's birth chart, and invite you to make up your own mind (and to share your views, if you wish) as to whether he fits this bill! All My Best Lyn
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 501 From: ca, usa Registered: Jan 2008
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posted November 21, 2008 05:08 PM
in the 30's we had an equally strong need for a leader to inspire us. we got several. unfortunately SOME of them were - hitler, mussolini, that japanese bloke(!!)xcuse me emperor...let us hope we don't deal with THEIR sort this time!! but be awake to the possibilities ...IP: Logged |