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Topic: 7th house ruler and emotional reactions
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 07, 2008 04:43 AM
ok l have this theory so feel free to correct me if i'm way off bat here!I am wondering whether the 7th house ruler comes into play when our emotions get in a tizz. example: if a person has Leo as 7th ruler, then when they get emotional they suddenly get all melodramatic and act out a Leo persona, even if normally they are pretty chilled out. Do any of you snowflakes see 7th ruler traits when you get emotionally upset or irked please? IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6678 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 07, 2008 04:57 AM
quote: Do any of you snowflakes see 7th ruler traits when you get emotionally upset or irked please?
Knowflakes. Snowflakes. Whatever. Personally, I'm a slowflake. Though my friends will say that I'm just a flake. 7th house Libra - ruler Venus is in Aries in 1st house. Not really a temperamental placement. So can't relate to that. Personally I relate to my Mars in Taurus for my temperament - very slow to anger but when I do - OMG - look out! Quite spectacular it is. IP: Logged |
Nightjar Knowflake Posts: 220 From: Registered: Sep 2006
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posted November 07, 2008 05:48 AM
I think it's a bit far fetched. In a similar way you could also say the rulers of the 1st, 4th or 8th house come to play in emotional situations. And had you suggested the 8th house ruler, there would be several snowflakes telling you how your theory works and makes sense to them (actually you could have suggested any house ruler, and it would work perfectly for someone...) I'd look at Moon and Mars for much better clues.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 07, 2008 06:16 AM
hehe l meant knowflakes Nightjar - ok. Yeah, good point. I'm not trying to lay down a law really, just to discuss!!
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Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted November 07, 2008 06:36 AM
Yeah, I can see it something worth exploring.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 07, 2008 07:00 AM
you think Kick it?cool! wanna expand on that? IP: Logged |
Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted November 07, 2008 07:57 AM
I think its the psycho explanation of the shadow. Both parts inside you which represent ASC and DC.Although if it was anything concering a partner, the DC is our partner and maybe an indication of how we/they would act. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 689 From: processing destination...... Registered: Sep 2008
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posted November 07, 2008 12:00 PM
Lara, I kinda feel the same way about it too...I was wondering if we act our descendant persona. I think it makes sense because it's supposed to be what we're looking for on some level, so I can't imagine that we don't put it out there once in a while, especially on intimate levels. I get confused about it, mainly because my Venus is the same ruler as my 7th house cusp...so I wonder about that.I do think it's very possible. IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted November 07, 2008 04:20 PM
Lara, yes, I have Taurus steam out of my ear moments, but Venus is Square to Mars on my chart so it is hard for me to say whether I should blame ruler or aspect. Obviously, never my fault. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 07, 2008 04:57 PM
hmmm interesting I only get melodramatic when my emotional buttons are pushed and i'm hurting... at all other times you'd never seen it. Almost like it's a core reaction, which would fit with the shadow side. I'm pretty sure it's the DC that does it. Can't be an AC thing, although l do have moon/venus in aries but aries is not SO drama queen! IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 689 From: processing destination...... Registered: Sep 2008
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posted November 07, 2008 05:17 PM
Lara, LOL. Moon in Aries makes me a total drama queen sometimes But it's 12th house drama. Nothing but silence and then an explosion out of nowhere that dies down just as quickly as it started lol Taurus rising saves me and talks me out of it though. Virgo 5th house...5th house likes drama too, but just goes...let's go have an adventure and see who we can help along the way... IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1193 From: on a chair beside a window Registered: Jul 2002
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posted November 07, 2008 05:40 PM
Yeah there is something to that LarA! Isn't the 7th house the personality we take on in relationships. I'm a Libran ascendant and in my relationship and indeed in my battles or confrontations I am direct, confrontational passionate and say it like it is! I don't have a compromising attitude when being challenged. So yeah Kick it, the 7th house is your shadow but also perhaps the role assigned to your or the personality you take on when in a relationship or a confrontational situation. (Maybe thats what is meant by your shadow side)IP: Logged |
Aste*risk Knowflake Posts: 68 From: U.S. Registered: Nov 2007
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posted November 07, 2008 05:43 PM
It does make some sense to me. I find myself acting out my descendant at times when I'm faced with an emotional situation. I find it awkward, however, because I have Aquarius on that cusp and so when I think I'm being 'objective' I sometimes offend people by saying stuff like "It happens all the time." or "Your overreacting." I'm also a non-crier. Of course, all of that could have to do with other aspects entirely.
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triplepisces Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Registered: May 2008
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posted November 08, 2008 12:58 AM
7th house cusp-Virgo, ruler is Mercury.I admit I analyze relationships a lot, till the cows come home. Since I know how much I operate based on emotions, I feel good and safe by gathering facts, analyzing, thinking, contemplating, analyzing etc IP: Logged |
heart cakes Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: canada Registered: Sep 2007
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posted November 08, 2008 02:10 AM
hmmmmm.. 7th house ruler, mercury, of the gemini kind. yeah i am super analytical too. want to talk things out BIG TIME when upset.. you know, NOT react, but UNDERSTAND. would we look to aspects to the ruling planet too, i suppose? i guess i just figure we act out our DC in general in partnerships, as much as we attract those people.. which would lend some energy to the ruling planet, and vice versa.. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3823 From: nevada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 08, 2008 02:54 AM
Hi Lara, I don't really see how you get an emotional reaction from the 7th house. What am I not seeing?I know the 7th house includes the marriage partner and rightly so but what this house really represents is the legal aspect of marriage, contracts, legally binding commitments, whether it is a business partnerships or marriage. The 7th house also includes "open enemies" Like the police. If you break the law it will be no secret that they will be looking for you. If there's a warrant, that is a legally binding contract. It's how you deal with the public. Using this logic if you have Leo on the Descendant it will be important that you conduct yourself (in reference to 7th house matters} with dignity (Sun), you will honor your 7th house contracts/commitments Now if you have the Moon (emotion) in Leo you will have drama queen tendencies no matter what house it falls into.. out! IP: Logged |
Kat Knowflake Posts: 1052 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Jan 2003
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posted November 08, 2008 09:37 AM
I wonder if there is something to it. I know someone who is a Cap rising and he can get emotional and cranky like a cancer. He's also a good cook. (Yes he's gay.) but he's also an Aqua and displays more emotional than this Cancer gal with Pisces moon. My 7th house is Aqua and I certainly have a heady coolness to myself. I wonder if this is something we do to attract that 7th house partner. We display those traits because that type of person will be attracted to them. I have water water everywhere, but I'm not heavily emotional. I have deep sensitivities and I'm a deep thinker. I usually get confused for a Geminii.??? IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 08, 2008 10:35 AM
hi LalaliindaWell it's not so much an emotional REACTION, it's more how we are in our inner emotions. How we portray them. Surface emotions and emotional reactions are l think more moon/venus and l act so aries in this way BUT it's when something deep affects me like l'm breaking up with someone... then l get so melodramatic to the extent where it looks like i'm going for the Oscar lol!!! I'm just wondering if the 7th H, being the shadow of us/AC subconsciously looks for a partner like our 7th because deep down we portray these traits. I thought the AC was how you conduct yourself in the world, the outer persona and the shadow side was what your core 'inner' emotions looks for in a partner. I thought l was always Leo rising because l am always so attracted to Leo's and also fire signs. Then l realised that Leo might easily be my 7th ruler hence the attracting of a Leo partner and l am so Aquarius when l read the AC text online, it's just not funny! I then thought maybe this is why i get so melodramatic out of nowhere... the shadow Leo comes out to play and somehow protect me emotionally? Am l making sense or not? lol Maybe l am really Leo rising and my sudden affairs and marriages, change of life and all the aloof and independent side of me is really my 7th house LOL Maybe the DC is how we are emotionally in relationships because l do portray these aquarian traits massively when it comes to love and closeness. you confused yet? IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3823 From: nevada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 08, 2008 11:43 AM
exellent point IP: Logged |
Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted November 08, 2008 12:19 PM
I will be in about 10 mins after taking it all in Woo Hoo.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 08, 2008 01:35 PM
ok i'm confused... which part was an excellent point please, Lalalinda Kick it - am l heading off track here and you are no good at off piste?
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grandmothermoon Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 08, 2008 01:51 PM
Hi Lara,Interesting. My 7th house ruler is Sag, and yes I get really firey, say things in haste but then it's all gone and I'm back to 'normal' quite quickly - I don't tend to bear grudges. Interesting thread IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3823 From: nevada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 08, 2008 04:50 PM
quote: I'm just wondering if the 7th H, being the shadow of us/AC subconsciously looks for a partner like our 7th because deep down we portray these traits...Lara
I think that is because it is our "complimentary opposite" but still a good point. Lara fire traits are so similar, they get you excited, they inspire you, they motivated you the one big difference between Aries, Leo, and Sag is Leo's stubborn factor, and Aries impatience or need to innitiate and/or lead. Sag's tendency to procrastinate or not follow through and finish. But all three are positive go-getters. I just have a feeling that the majority of your stubborness comes from your Taurus Planets and your fire comes from Aries. what do you think? IP: Logged |
augentier Knowflake Posts: 893 From: KS Registered: Nov 2007
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posted November 08, 2008 05:02 PM
7th house ruler Taurus..Venus in Scorpio in the 1st house.Taurus are slow to anger, supposedly..and I am NOT. I get angry quickly , and extremely.. My emotional reactions are pretty deep and even though I appear to have gotten over something, the feeling lingers. I am into revenge, and I can get pretty violent when I am very upset. Maybe that's my Venus in Scorpio talking, or my Scorpio ASC. ------------------ Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon Mercury:: Sagittarius Venus::Scorpio Mars::Pisces IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 08, 2008 06:16 PM
yes Lalalinda, my stubborness comes from my taurus/aries mix! but this is not stubbornness, this is Bette Davis in her greatest role!!!! This has all come about cos im trying to separate my traits to find if im Aqua or Leo AC lol IP: Logged |